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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    97 out of 79000

    10% of 79000 - 7900

    1% of 79000 - 790

    .1 % of 79000 - 79

    .1% pinaguusapan ng husto, clearly demo job
    Well 97 Monteros are still too many...Just be SAFE Guys....Hope wala nang madagdag sa 97 Defective Monteros.....:pope:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbocharger View Post
    Well 97 Monteros are still too many...Just be SAFE Guys....Hope wala nang madagdag sa 97 Defective Monteros.....:pope:
    Kaya nga dapat mag-ingat sa mga ladder frame suvs, if these 97 are newbie drivers, then we have a potential unintended threat in short PUT

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Kaya nga dapat mag-ingat sa mga ladder frame suvs, if these 97 are newbie drivers, then we have a potential unintended threat in short PUT
    Aba'y dapat sumailalim yan sa Potential Unintended Threat Analysis....

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    #4
    Eto SUA caught on cam. Sonata nga lang. Unintended acceleration of the car - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigs_xix View Post


    I don't think this is SUA. Driver fault talaga yan.

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    Spot on Vernon!

    http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motor...d-acceleration


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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Spot on Vernon!

    http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motor...d-acceleration


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    Hehe. Ang tigas talaga ng mga tao na yan. Pinaglalaban ang mali. Nabasa ko na din pala yung SUA ng toyota. Epic. Ang galing ng reporter. Nadaya nya toyota. Yaman na siguro nun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Spot on Vernon!

    http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motor...d-acceleration


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    from my point of view:

    Topgear really put up a good statement. Common sense nga naman, sa 'Pinas lang? Actually madaming paraan para labanan o maiwasan ang kini-claim nilang SUA. Pwede mo naman sigurong apakan ang brake pag feeling mo na-suSUA ka na noh? or handbrakes..or better yet, kayang-kaya mo naman sigurong ilagay s Neutral without pressing the brakes. or kung meron kang tinatawag na presence of mind, "ignition off."

    I think more on psychological aspect na lang talaga ang claimed SUA ng Montero. Doon na lang isisi ang driver error. From park to drive eh talaga namang aandar sasakyan ntin lalo na pag nsa flat plane or descending position. Please be reminded na mabigat ang minamahal nating sasakyan. Pati Manibela eh medyo nakakamuscle dahil sa lapad ng gulong.

    I owned Montero 2015 glx A/T model, narinig ko na yang SUA na yan prior to buying it. Di naman ako nadiscourage, first car ko pa nga to in fact! Let's not go into claiming me SUA ang montero natin. Bagkus, pwede nating i-debunked ang myth na yan. Remember, tayo at hindi sila ang nakasakay sa sasakyan natin. Hindi naman sa pinagtatanggol natin ang Mitsu pero di rin masama na ayusin ang pagmamaneho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Spot on Vernon!

    http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motor...d-acceleration


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    from my point of view:

    Topgear really put up a good statement. Common sense nga naman, sa 'Pinas lang? Actually madaming paraan para labanan o maiwasan ang kini-claim nilang SUA. Pwede mo naman sigurong apakan ang brake pag feeling mo na-suSUA ka na noh? or handbrakes..or better yet, kayang-kaya mo naman sigurong ilagay s Neutral without pressing the brakes. or kung meron kang tinatawag na presence of mind, "ignition off."

    I think more on psychological aspect na lang talaga ang claimed SUA ng Montero. Doon na lang isisi ang driver error. From park to drive eh talaga namang aandar sasakyan ntin lalo na pag nsa flat plane or descending position. Please be reminded na mabigat ang minamahal nating sasakyan. Pati Manibela eh medyo nakakamuscle dahil sa lapad ng gulong.

    I owned Montero 2015 glx A/T model, narinig ko na yang SUA na yan prior to buying it. Di naman ako nadiscourage, first car ko pa nga to in fact! Let's not go into claiming me SUA ang montero natin. Bagkus, pwede nating i-debunked ang myth na yan. Remember, tayo at hindi sila ang nakasakay sa sasakyan natin. Hindi naman sa pinagtatanggol natin ang Mitsu pero di rin masama na ayusin ang pagmamaneho.

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    Nagtataka Lang AKO kung bakit may iba.. Na hindi matangap na may iilan na montero na may SUA? Hindi naman sinasabi na Lahat ng montero affected Nito...

    Different a brands have different issues.... Kaya nga yung Ibang brand.. Inaayos or pinapalitan nila yung specific part na may problema..

    Pero it's obvious naman Ang solution ng montero Dyan sa all new model nila is collision mitigation...

    Pero Meron pa din mgA may montero sarado isip... Hindi purkit hindi Nyo na experienced Ang sua eh wala ng SUA....

    Kung talagang human error yan... At yung mga naka montero eh sinasabi Lang SUA Pero human error naman talaga... Edi Sana Ganyan na din palusot ng ibang nababanga Lalo na mga bus....

    Tanong ulit eh bakit sa montero Lang? May mga sinugaling at tangong driver Sabi nga Ni play plug...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Nagtataka Lang AKO kung bakit may iba.. Na hindi matangap na may iilan na montero na may SUA? Hindi naman sinasabi na Lahat ng montero affected Nito...

    Different a brands have different issues.... Kaya nga yung Ibang brand.. Inaayos or pinapalitan nila yung specific part na may problema..

    Pero it's obvious naman Ang solution ng montero Dyan sa all new model nila is collision mitigation...

    Pero Meron pa din mgA may montero sarado isip... Hindi purkit hindi Nyo na experienced Ang sua eh wala ng SUA....

    Kung talagang human error yan... At yung mga naka montero eh sinasabi Lang SUA Pero human error naman talaga... Edi Sana Ganyan na din palusot ng ibang nababanga Lalo na mga bus....

    Tanong ulit eh bakit sa montero Lang? May mga sinugaling at tangong driver Sabi nga Ni play plug...
    Baka kasi magkaroon na ng bad perception ang montero. "Pre ok ba montero? HUWAG MONTERO delikado buhay mo dyan"

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Baka kasi magkaroon na ng bad perception ang montero. "Pre ok ba montero? HUWAG MONTERO delikado buhay mo dyan"
    Pero syempre dapat sabihin mo din based sa nabasa ko sa tsikot ganito ganyan. Don't pretend you have personal knowledge kung wala, kung meron eh di proper sabihin mo din up to the extent.

    I think it's possible na yung congress mag enact ng law or make solution to address the issue. Every juan is invited during consultations or investigations especially those people mostly here who thinks they are the real party in interest. Put your words into actions so that the controversy can be settled.

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    Mga naka MONTORO ingat ingat Lang.... He he

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    OB!!! 8.am na, kumain ka muna.. Tapos inom ka na ng gamot...!!!

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    Grabe mag accelerate tong thread na to ah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post
    Grabe mag accelerate tong thread na to ah.
    Some people get entertained by threads that go in circles...How many threads do you see people presenting the same argument for the past 4 years ...hehehe


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    This thread piqued my interest because I now drive a Diesel.

    Reading up on Diesels in general also introduced me to an issue called Diesel run-away.

    Anyway, just to sum up what I've been saying about the Montero, here are the few possible causes of the SUA, in no particular order:

    1. Driver error
    2. Diesel Run-away
    3. Mechanical / Hardware issue
    4. Software issue (drive-by-wire)
    5. A combination of 1, 3 and/or 4 due to shift safety interlock failure or the vehicle was not equipped with one

    Yes, we can't rule out driver error and I'm sure SOME of those 97 cases DOES involve driver error. The big BUT here, however, is that this only seems to happen predominantly on a Montero. So nobody can say that all 97 cases are caused by driver error when statistically, SUAs due to driver error using any OTHER A/T car, combined, are comparatively low. That's the argument.

    If I may say so, the Montero is a good car. But I feel that due diligence on Mitsubishi's part to look further into this matter is just not enough. Transient errors/failures do happen in real life, so if you don't test anything well enough, you won't be able to catch it.

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    Kung puro montero kahit driver error - that means may flaw sa design di ba? Kung may flaw sa design why can't MS just go and solve it to stop accidents? if monteros are risking peoples lives - gaano kahirap ba isolve yun? They made so much money with the sales of Monteros in the Philippines.

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