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  1. Join Date
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    With elections around the corner, sinong politiko sasakay sa issue na ito? Bakit ayaw daanan sa korte? Unless may precedent na decision in favor of MMC... walang habol mga victims.


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    I've driven my brother's Montero. A slight touch or rest of your right foot on the gas pedal surges the car. Maybe something wrong with the accelerator switch which is no longer the cable type.

    There should be some play first before the right foot gas pedal activates. Sometimes, we rest our right foot on the gas pedal. Preparing to accelerate at the right time. But, it just go with that slight touch above it.

    A Montero A/T by the way.

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    I think all ladder frames are in danger of SUA, whether factory defect or human error, Kasi designed for higher torque to carry higher loads. Kelangan humahagibis na lakas ng hatak ng engine parang elf truck

    I think it's time for all of you to consider crossover diesels, designed Hindi pang-macho kungdi pampapogi with its sporty looks, car like features pero Kayang Kayang iwan mga ladder suv sa daan

    The Tucson comes in mind and the upcoming Sportage

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    FYI.
    Just READ and FOLLOW the instructions in the manual booklet.
    If engine is running with no intention to go, selector P and handbrake up.
    Simple lang di ba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post






    FYI.
    Just READ and FOLLOW the instructions in the manual booklet.
    If engine is running with no intention to go, selector P and handbrake up.
    Simple lang di ba.
    Ibig sabihin ba nito you can shift the shifting gear lever from P to R, N, D without depressing the brake pedal? Kung ganon design flaws nga😲

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    Hehe. I'm not engineer or expert to comment on the design.
    When the instructions is clear and unambiguous, there no room for whatever..
    If you directly, intentionally, willfully disobey a simple instruction then you might be prosecuted for driving a deadly weapon or vehicle.
    Hehehe.
    Don't buy montero na lang.

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    Regarding starting in "Neutral"...

    You can start most cars in Neutral... most safety interlocks I've seen only require you to be stepping on the brake. They will still allow you to start in Neutral.

    The safety interlocks simply won't allow you to start the car in "D" or "R".

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    Regarding starting in "Neutral"...

    You can start most cars in Neutral... most safety interlocks I've seen only require you to be stepping on the brake. They will still allow you to start in Neutral.

    The safety interlocks simply won't allow you to start the car in "D" or "R".

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post
    Hehe. I'm not engineer or expert to comment on the design.
    When the instructions is clear and unambiguous, there no room for whatever..
    If you directly, intentionally, willfully disobey a simple instruction then you might be prosecuted for driving a deadly weapon or vehicle.
    Hehehe.
    Don't buy montero na lang.
    Regardless of age, gender or driving experience, humans are destined to make mistakes. People can forget small details. People can get clumsy. People can panic. The A/T shifter safety interlock is designed to help prevent such rudimentary mistakes from happening... simple mistakes that can cost lives.

    This fail-safe system, in one way or another, has been incorporated on almost any, if not all, A/T cars in the last 20 years, at least. This alone prevented shifter-related SUAs. If the MS doesn't have it, what was Mitsubishi thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Regardless of age, gender or driving experience, humans are destined to make mistakes. People can forget small details. People can get clumsy. People can panic. The A/T shifter safety interlock is designed to help prevent such rudimentary mistakes from happening... simple mistakes that can cost lives.

    This fail-safe system, in one way or another, has been incorporated on almost any, if not all, A/T cars in the last 20 years, at least. This alone prevented shifter-related SUAs. If the MS doesn't have it, what was Mitsubishi thinking?

    Agree. Its not as simple as it looks. Tapos sabi pa nila maraming bobo na bumili ng Montero. So paano na?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Agree. Its not as simple as it looks. Tapos sabi pa nila maraming bobo na bumili ng Montero. So paano na?
    And how come with the thousands of montero/pajero sports manufactured in Thailand and exported around Asia including Australia and Russia its only in the Philippines SUAs are reported and as previously stated, it all started when MS is at highest sales peak dislodging the perennial number 1 including its cash cow innova? Not to mention that its identical platform the strada has no reported incident of SUA.
    If its a design flaw, then we should see the effect in similar model in countries where it is exported. Again none, only in the Philippines.

    Does this mean, the senior drivers in the Philippines are dumber than their counterparts in Asia? Maybe not, not unless someone orchestrated a scheme to sabotage a batch of MS, who knows, maybe someone who is moneyed and about to lose a job as a country manager because of declining sales. Just my far fetched 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Agree. Its not as simple as it looks. Tapos sabi pa nila maraming bobo na bumili ng Montero. So paano na?
    And how come with the thousands of montero/pajero sports manufactured in Thailand and exported around Asia including Australia and Russia its only in the Philippines SUAs are reported and as previously stated, it all started when MS is at highest sales peak dislodging the perennial number 1 including its cash cow innova? Not to mention that its identical platform the strada has no reported incident of SUA.
    If its a design flaw, then we should see the effect in similar model in countries where it is exported. Again none, only in the Philippines.

    Does this mean, the senior drivers in the Philippines are dumber than their counterparts in Asia? Maybe not, not unless someone orchestrated a scheme to sabotage a batch of MS, who knows, maybe someone who is moneyed and about to lose a job as a country manager because of declining sales. Just my far fetched 2 cents.

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    It's not uncommon for the same vehicle model to have subtle differences in components and/or software programming depending on the target region or country.

    My take is that, they may be doing something different to the PH model that's likely causing this issue. It is not to imply that it is a deliberate attempt at sabotage. Rather, they may be using somewhat different components that could somehow lead up to the issue appearing at random.

    With almost 100 incidents involving the MS, which may probably be more than the other car manufacturers incidents combined (at least in the PH), the statistics seems to point to an issue with many of these Montero Sport vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Regardless of age, gender or driving experience, humans are destined to make mistakes. People can forget small details. People can get clumsy. People can panic. The A/T shifter safety interlock is designed to help prevent such rudimentary mistakes from happening... simple mistakes that can cost lives.

    This fail-safe system, in one way or another, has been incorporated on almost any, if not all, A/T cars in the last 20 years, at least. This alone prevented shifter-related SUAs. If the MS doesn't have it, what was Mitsubishi thinking?
    Exactly. Lahat ng korean a/t cars from 2008 to 2015 namin, you cant move or shift the gear lever from Park to any position without depressing the brake pedal first. Dapat standard safety features ito ng lahat ng A/T cars. Sa manual transmission naman ng 2012 kia rio namin yung cant start the engine without depressing the clutch pedal first😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Regardless of age, gender or driving experience, humans are destined to make mistakes. People can forget small details. People can get clumsy. People can panic. The A/T shifter safety interlock is designed to help prevent such rudimentary mistakes from happening... simple mistakes that can cost lives.

    This fail-safe system, in one way or another, has been incorporated on almost any, if not all, A/T cars in the last 20 years, at least. This alone prevented shifter-related SUAs. If the MS doesn't have it, what was Mitsubishi thinking?
    Not all SUA are shifter related, and not all Korean cars are SUA safe. Google and you will see how many Korean cars suffered SUA.
    My Korean van had an accident last month, I rammed the back of a bus in a stop and go traffic in EDSA. My van suddenly accelerate after I step off the brake, and the brake failed, the damaged in the bus is around 15k, while my van repair estimate is 275k. Since I have an insurance, its my bad, no SUA, to hasten the claim process. I wonder what will my story be, if I have no insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Regardless of age, gender or driving experience, humans are destined to make mistakes. People can forget small details. People can get clumsy. People can panic. The A/T shifter safety interlock is designed to help prevent such rudimentary mistakes from happening... simple mistakes that can cost lives.

    This fail-safe system, in one way or another, has been incorporated on almost any, if not all, A/T cars in the last 20 years, at least. This alone prevented shifter-related SUAs. If the MS doesn't have it, what was Mitsubishi thinking?
    Not all SUA are shifter related, and not all Korean cars are SUA safe. Google and you will see how many Korean cars suffered SUA.
    My Korean van had an accident last month, I rammed the back of a bus in a stop and go traffic in EDSA. My van suddenly accelerate after I step off the brake, and the brake failed, the damaged in the bus is around 15k, while my van repair estimate is 275k. Since I have an insurance, its my bad, no SUA, to hasten the claim process. I wonder what will my story be, if I have no insurance?

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    Para nga matapos na ang SUA issue na ito, wag na kayo bumili ng Mux, Fortuner, montero, trailblazer.

    Santa fe, Sorento, tucson and Sportage CRDI na lang, no reports, sportscar like handling pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Para nga matapos na ang SUA issue na ito, wag na kayo bumili ng Mux, Fortuner, montero, trailblazer.

    Santa fe, Sorento, tucson and Sportage CRDI na lang, no reports, sportscar like handling pa.
    OB ano advice Mong kunin ko--- Everest or Tucson?

    What about yung precious gem. Na Tucson? Ang laki ng discount...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    OB ano advice Mong kunin ko--- Everest or Tucson?

    What about yung precious gem. Na Tucson? Ang laki ng discount...
    May discount na 2016 Tucson? Pwede ganda yan sosyal tignan

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    May discount na 2016 Tucson? Pwede ganda yan sosyal tignan
    Sorry... Previous gen. Pala...

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    There's no way, Mitsubishi will admit responsibility on SUA vehicles.. Naturuan na ng mga abogado nila yan...

    Isang damukal na asunto aabutin ng Mitsubishi kung aminin nila na design or vehicle fault yan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    There's no way, Mitsubishi will admit responsibility on SUA vehicles.. Naturuan na ng mga abogado nila yan...

    Isang damukal na asunto aabutin ng Mitsubishi kung aminin nila na design or vehicle fault yan...
    Remember IIRC may history na ang mitsubishi sa safety cover up scandal during the year 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Remember IIRC may history na ang mitsubishi sa safety cover up scandal during the year 2000
    And I know how they do cover ups specially on media related complaints.

    On a side note. We also have a 2009 Montero 3.2 4x4 GLS. Aside from the heavy steering na ilang beses mo dapat ikutin para makaliko, no other complaints. 4m41 engine is a gem. Almost 150tkms and its still being used lagare sa farm. Ewan ko ba kung bakit nilabas pa yang bulok na 4d56 vgt na yan. Yes bulok talaga.

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