Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[Gumusut_Amige]

^sa AT nasa P or N ang lever bago mo ma-start ang engine.
Bakit naka-engaged ka sa 1st gear during starting? Did you press your clutch before turning the ignition on?


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[forrester_2010]

^sa AT nasa P or N ang lever bago mo ma-start ang engine.
Bakit naka-engaged ka sa 1st gear during starting? Did you press your clutch before turning the ignition on?


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Thanks for the info. Actually several times na nangyari sa akin na nakakalimutan ko ibalik sa neutral before engine start, pero usually, hindi tatakbo ung car, ung parang biglang preno lng ang effect, then engine off. But during that time, talagang nag tuloy tuloy. Nanginginig ung engine, just like what many describes in their SUA experience.

[jaggerx3]

Napagka imposible na PH models lang affected neto. Bakit sa ibang bansa walang SUA case ang montero?

[Turbocharger]

Napagka imposible na PH models lang affected neto. Bakit sa ibang bansa walang SUA case ang montero?

Bakit walang case ng SUA sa ibang bansa?? well Hindi naman ganun karami ang bumili ng Montero sa ibang bansa, di tulad dito sa atin sa PH na San damukal na buyers ang bumile nyan...... meron din ciguro sa abroad ng SUA cases pero very isolated and hindi na press release.......

[Juan Martinez]

Bakit walang case ng SUA sa ibang bansa?? well Hindi naman ganun karami ang bumili ng Montero sa ibang bansa, di tulad dito sa atin sa PH na San damukal na buyers ang bumile nyan...... meron din ciguro sa abroad ng SUA cases pero very isolated and hindi na press release.......

it is inaccurate to say na walang kaso ng SUA sa ibang bansa. it's not even Mitsubishi but Ford--

1) CASE NO. 2004-CA-000013

PEGGY T. STIMPSON and RALPH M. STIMPSON VS.
FORD MOTOR COMPANY, et al,

2) MANIGAULT ET AL., APPELLANTS, v. FORD MOTOR COMPANY, APPELLEE, ET AL.
[Cite as Manigault v. Ford Motor Co., 96 Ohio St.3d 431, 2002-Ohio-5057.]

3)JONES v FORD MOTOR COMPANY
Record No. 010136, March 1, 2002

4) KNOSTER v FORD MOTOR COMPANY
No. 05-3355

5) U.S. 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals
Jarvis v Ford Motor Company

United States of Court of Appeals
For the second Circuit
August Term, 2000
(Argued: May 14, 2001 Decided: February 07, 2002 Corrected: February 11, 2002)
Docket Nos. 99-9405 (L), 00-9215 (CON)

[Walter]

There was the Audi issue during the 80s in the U.S.. All were proven to be human error + powerful engine but the damage had been done and the brand lost it's credibility for decades in the U.S.

The Best Of TTAC: The Audi 5000 Intended Unintended Acceleration Debacle - The Truth About Cars

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/op...11schmidt.html

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There was the Audi issue during the 80s in the U.S.. All were proven to be human error + powerful engine but the damage had been done and the brand lost it's credibility for decades in the U.S.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/the-best-of-ttac-the-audi-5000-intended-unintended-acceleration-debacle/

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/opinion/11schmidt.html

[altec]

I can confirm what was said here several pages back with my 2010 unit na di kelangan apakan ang brakes to move the stick from park to any gear and vice versa, regardless if engine is on or not. Pero kun naka D, car wont start/crank assuming you want to start up.

the 2013 model of my friend will not allow any as it requires the brake pedal pressed before it will allow shifting from PARK which means this safety feature is included in 2013 up, but not available 2012 down. This is standard with toyota, na test ko sa innova, fortuner at grandia. All require stepping on the brake pedal OR pressing on the shift lock located at the left side of the park position of the shift stick.

[valskie01]

Napagka imposible na PH models lang affected neto. Bakit sa ibang bansa walang SUA case ang montero?

Maliit lang kasi market share ng mitsubishi worldwide. Wala pa nga sila sa top 15 car brands in terms of sales and production volume worldwide.

[aar0nix]

Sharing my personal experience with SUA with my manual car. After taking out the key, I pressed the clutch and changed to first gear due to weak hand brake. After grocery, I went inside the car, inserted the key, then started the engine and the car fast accelerated in itself even with hand brake engaged. I hit the end side of innova before I was able to step in the brake (I pressed the clutch first, not the brake due to panic). Innova was about 3 meters away. Parking guards rushed into the scene due to loud impact. I paid 17k for the repair of Innova.

I am not sure if in AT Montero you need to press the brake before you can start the engine. If not then above can be a common scenario since it is an old habit of older folks to engage in first gear when parking (I suspect in case of AT in D mode).

Those with AT Montero, maybe you can compare what will happen if you are already in D and start the engine with your foot on the brake and not on the brake. Or is this too scary to try? Will the car even start?

Bro hindi SUA yan. Never start a car engaged in gear. That is not how you drive a manual transmission equipped vehicle. Always check first if your transmission is in neutral (juggling of the shifter left and right) before starting the engine.

[cast_no_shadow]

Toyota fined

Toyota to Pay $1.2B for Hiding Deadly ‘Unintended Acceleration’ - ABC News


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[glenn manikis]

Driver error... Unlikely Yun.. Unless nalamg kung bagong driver... Pag Apak mo palang alam mo na kung gas or brake ang inapakan mo.. At pag brake mataas at Matigas, pag gas.. Malambot... At malalim...

[Djerms]

Driver error... Unlikely Yun.. Unless nalamg kung bagong driver... Pag Apak mo palang alam mo na kung gas or brake ang inapakan mo.. At pag brake mataas at Matigas, pag gas.. Malambot... At malalim...

I agree. And many of the Fortuner owners are also senior citizens. Bakit mukhang sa HOT CAKE montero lang may HOT SUA issue?

My dad and uncles are senior citizens and all of their SUVs are automatics. They must've been driving automatics longer than me kaya parang mali yung assumption na porke't senior, inclined to driver error sa automatics.

Di kaya mas tama ang assumption na between the hot selling fortuner and the hot selling montero, at montero lang ang may ganitong issue, eh may SUA issue talaga sa montero?

[gundam]

IIRC basta lumalabas tong SUA issue, nag nanumber 1 ang montero eh.
Parang good publicity. 🤔

[StockEngine]

Monday na ang release? Anybody can confirm?

[altec]

hindi kaya related din sa inhibitor switch problem ang SUA issue? Based on my experience on the inhibitor switch problem, when i move the stick from gear to gear, minsan nawawala, blangko ang indicator. What I do, i move the stick back from drive to neutral and back to drive to get the indicator to show. Then recently, nag blank ang indicator while I am still in gear, causing the engine to rev hard, kasi nga kung blank, parang naka neutral. I jog the stick again to bring the indicator to function.

Since I had it cleaned (2nd time) and no, I have not had my indicator switch replaced yet, ok na ulit. When shifting from gear to gear, immediate ang pagpalit sa indicator, no lag, no blank.

Considering what I said na yung mga 2012 below has no shift lock safety option, di kaya napaandar nila ang monty nila while it was still in drive or neutral, pero due to faulty inhibitor, nagblank ang reading, kaya pwede mapaandar ang kotse. Pero dahil it is actually in drive, baka biglang nag contact ang connectors sa inhibitor switch, kaya ayun, biglang abante kasi nga nag start ang kotse when it was actually in drive.

There was a time my monty was parked by a company driver. When I rode in the car, ayaw umandar! Nagtaka ako bakit. Kung anu ano ginawa ko, only to realize nasa drive pala ang gear, kaya ayaw umandar. Napatay ng driver ang kotse maski naiwan sa D, natanggal pa niya ang susi. You can't do that if it has a shift lock and the stepping on the brake thing.

[chronicle]

Mmpc's statement.

MITSUBISHI MOTORS CORPORATION | Press Release

[minicarph]

Since sirang-sira na ang Mitsu, and Everest is Americsn, I guess it's time to move on and consider this baby.

Tutal, the Philippines is progressing na naman, and pang-3rd world ang mga ladder frames

Dapat ang car mo sportscar with lots of creature comforts, uun tipong you'll leave all these ladder suvs in the dust type of thing

Palagay ko, dapat Hyundai Tucson CRDi na lang ang the best option

[altec]

I can start my 10 monty even on neutral. Keys can be removed at any gear even on drive. The same with a local 09 kia sportage. Not so with toyotas which require stepping on the brake pdal and P before you can start the car or remove the key. But i never heard of any sua on the local sportage.

[glenn_duke]

I can start my 10 monty even on neutral. Keys can be removed at any gear even on drive. The same with a local 09 kia sportage. Not so with toyotas which require stepping on the brake pdal and P before you can start the car or remove the key. But i never heard of any sua on the local sportage.

Surprisingly no SUA also for the same MS model in other countries except in the Phil, and it all started in the year the MS overtook the sales of the other popular SUV., Coincidence??
Maybe one of the Thais at the Mitsu plant assembly in Thailand have an axe to grind with the Pinoys. Maybe he caught his wife being swag by a Pinoy (which always happens).

On the other hand, I CAN'T start my 2010 SE with the gear in D or N or R. It will only start in P and although I can remove the key even when its not in P.
I have yet to test this in my other MS a 2014 GLS-V.

If you can start your MS even the gear is in D, then you should bring it to mitsu to check it.

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I can start my 10 monty even on neutral. Keys can be removed at any gear even on drive. The same with a local 09 kia sportage. Not so with toyotas which require stepping on the brake pdal and P before you can start the car or remove the key. But i never heard of any sua on the local sportage.

Surprisingly no SUA also for the same MS model in other countries except in the Phil, and it all started in the year the MS overtook the sales of the other popular SUV., Coincidence??
Maybe one of the Thais at the Mitsu plant assembly in Thailand have an axe to grind with the Pinoys. Maybe he caught his wife being swag by a Pinoy (which always happens).

On the other hand, I CAN'T start my 2010 SE with the gear in D or R. It will only start in P and although I can remove the key even when its not in P.
I have yet to test this in my other MS a 2014 GLS-V.

If you can start your MS even the gear is in D, then you should bring it to mitsu to check it.

[Djerms]

If I am to plan something to dethrone the MS off its No. 1 spot, hindi ko naman hahayaan madurog ang mga buto ko.