Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[Ry_Tower]

it is a good safety procedure,
but alas, some motor vehicles may not require it.

but my initial thoughts remain,
"is the monstero really predisposed to sua?"
is the vehicle somehow predisposed to it, or is it the drivers that are predisposed to it?

Pantay daw kasi brake at accelerator pedal. Kaso yung Gen 1-3 Pajero alam ko ganun din pero bakit hindi or bihira mo mabalitaan na nag-SUA?

TopGear Philippines reader compares pedals of Montero Sport and Fortuner | Coconuts

Yan may pictures to compare pa. Pero kahit ganyan ang design, driver error talaga bagsak niyan kasi dapat naman alam mo saan ang brake or gas pedal diba.

Kaso daming new MS owners (when middle class was able to afford an SUV) at malamang mga newbie drivers itong mga ito. Naging recipe for disaster tuloy imho.

[BlancNoir]

Pantay daw kasi brake at accelerator pedal. Kaso yung Gen 1-3 Pajero alam ko ganun din pero bakit hindi or bihira mo mabalitaan na nag-SUA?

TopGear Philippines reader compares pedals of Montero Sport and Fortuner | Coconuts

Yan may pictures to compare pa. Pero kahit ganyan ang design, driver error talaga bagsak niyan kasi dapat naman alam mo saan ang brake or gas pedal diba.

Kaso daming new MS owners (when middle class was able to afford an SUV) at malamang mga newbie drivers itong mga ito. Naging recipe for disaster tuloy imho.

To add, sa BK pajero, pwede mag shift from Park to Drive kahit hindi nakaapak sa brake pedal.

[babkalakal]

To add, sa BK pajero, pwede mag shift from Park to Drive kahit hindi nakaapak sa brake pedal.

same din sa montero pre-2012. i know. i used to own one. pwede moving from park into drive ng di naka apak sa brake pedal.

as i remember starting 2013 saka nilagyan nila ng brake lock ang transmission when shifting from P to D

[carxynogen]

Pantay daw kasi brake at accelerator pedal. Kaso yung Gen 1-3 Pajero alam ko ganun din pero bakit hindi or bihira mo mabalitaan na nag-SUA?

TopGear Philippines reader compares pedals of Montero Sport and Fortuner | Coconuts

Yan may pictures to compare pa. Pero kahit ganyan ang design, driver error talaga bagsak niyan kasi dapat naman alam mo saan ang brake or gas pedal diba.

Kaso daming new MS owners (when middle class was able to afford an SUV) at malamang mga newbie drivers itong mga ito. Naging recipe for disaster tuloy imho.

Bihira nalang ako makakita ng Pajero sa City.
I think nasa province mostly mga owners nito especially those who owned the older units.
Laganap Montero sa City kaya sila lagi nakikitang mag SUA.
Malaki kasi consumption ng engine diesel ng Pajero if sa City gagamitin lalo na sa traffic.

[carxynogen]

Mahihirapan ng ma benta sa second hand market Monstero nyo dahil sa SUA issue.
Baka wala ng bumili kahit 500k for 2016 and up model, delikado sa SUA eh..
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Pero pwd ko kunin 2016 nyo, para ma test ko.

[babkalakal]

Mahihirapan ng ma benta sa second hand market Monstero nyo dahil sa SUA issue.
Baka wala ng bumili kahit 500k for 2016 and up model, delikado sa SUA eh..
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Pero pwd ko kunin 2016 nyo, para ma test ko.

hehe

seriously speaking though kung same model year mas mababa ng 100k more or less ang montero vs sa comparable na fortuner kaka tingin ko sa classifieds. ang di ko napansin kung magkano ang resale ng montero vs others like terra, mux at everest.

if i were looking at a pre owned ppv/suv feeling ko sulit ang montero 3rd gen.

[thearsenal1205]

Lahat yata ng AT cars can shift to D without stepping on the brakes

Not all AT vehicles could do that if the mechanism for the AT has brake shift interlock. This prevents accidental shifting from P to D or R.

Earlier AT vehicles usually does not have this feature.

[yubby24]

Not all AT vehicles could do that if the mechanism for the AT has brake shift interlock. This prevents accidental shifting from P to D or R.

Earlier AT vehicles usually does not have this feature.

Sa Mobilio, para makaalis sa P, kailangan nakatapak ang brakes at pindutin yung button.. From R di ko sure kasi lagi akong nakaapak sa brake kapag magshift from R. Sa N, D, S at L naman, pwede ilipat lipat ng walang tapak.

[yapoy86]

Not all AT vehicles could do that if the mechanism for the AT has brake shift interlock. This prevents accidental shifting from P to D or R.

Earlier AT vehicles usually does not have this feature.

that's true from P..

but all AT cars can shift N to D without stepping on the brakes.. try it

even on a toyota fortuner, you can move the lever from N to R or D without stepping on the brakes.. although its kinda "gated" where you need to deliberately move the shifter slightly on the right from N to R

[ale828]

i used to own a Strada of the same montero sua model.
Similar height nga yung Accelerator and Brake pedal. But if you are used to driving automatics dapat masasanay ka nun.

The problem i experienced with my unit and i think inherit in the design of the montero/strada is that if you put in aftermarket mats especially those thick 3M or rubber/weather proof mats it causes the pedals can get stuck.
Happened to me twice after which i totally removed any mats in the drivers floor area. kaya madumi talaga yung drivers floor area nung Strada ko before.

[dreamur]

The new models are even confusing if you are used to the PRNDL. You just only move the stick fwd and bckwd to change gears I have to check the panel to see if I am on the right gear.

Plus the electronic park button ay nasa stick mismo.

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[monty_GTV]

Pantay daw kasi brake at accelerator pedal. Kaso yung Gen 1-3 Pajero alam ko ganun din pero bakit hindi or bihira mo mabalitaan na nag-SUA?

TopGear Philippines reader compares pedals of Montero Sport and Fortuner | Coconuts

Yan may pictures to compare pa. Pero kahit ganyan ang design, driver error talaga bagsak niyan kasi dapat naman alam mo saan ang brake or gas pedal diba.

Kaso daming new MS owners (when middle class was able to afford an SUV) at malamang mga newbie drivers itong mga ito. Naging recipe for disaster tuloy imho.

i can vouch na hindi pantay bro. like any other AT's vehicles i have, mas mataas ang level ng brake for the purpose na need mo talaga iangat ang paa mo to be able to step on the brake pedal. more than enough din ang distansiya in between ng accelerator at brake pedal. hindi rin mailipat ang kambyo kapag hindi nakaapak sa preno. 2012 montero owner/290k+ kms

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[17Sphynx17]

i used to own a Strada of the same montero sua model.
Similar height nga yung Accelerator and Brake pedal. But if you are used to driving automatics dapat masasanay ka nun.

The problem i experienced with my unit and i think inherit in the design of the montero/strada is that if you put in aftermarket mats especially those thick 3M or rubber/weather proof mats it causes the pedals can get stuck.
Happened to me twice after which i totally removed any mats in the drivers floor area. kaya madumi talaga yung drivers floor area nung Strada ko before.

2011 or later units ng Montero should have already come with holes on the floor mats to anchor and be "fixed" in position sa floor.

Last PMS nga lang nung 2022, bugbog na nga floor mat namin, napalitan pa ng earlier model year na floor mat na walang butas yung driver side floor mat. haha! Bumili na lang din ng kapalit naman na rubberized floor matting na waterproof na, na may butas din to fix position to floor.

[dreamur]

Could slippers be the culprit?

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[111prez]

Could slippers be the culprit?

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Sa 2011 Monty GTV ko, I drive with slippers 90% of the time. Does not seem to be a problem for me. Never had any problem.

But yes, I agree that it may be a problem for others

[carxynogen]

Diba pag ganyang design issue, pwd yan ma file as law suits sa US?
May study previously when the SUA was a hot topic that possible sa car matting yung cause ng SUA.
May matting kasi na due to movement, ma sandal sa accelerator.
So pag maapakan sa paa ng driver yung floor mat, ma trigger din yung acceleration pedal.
Lalo na if yung car matting gamit us matigas na material.

[baludoy]

^ iyong sa USA mga Toyota Camry Lexus, &Avalon Ang involved sa "sticky pedal" saga kung di ako nagkakamali

Speaking of which, Tesla Naman daw sa china. Not sure If this is a new incident or it's a rehash of an old uncontrolled speeding accident I posted here before. Must be a slow Newsday for scmp if it's a previous accident.


https://youtu.be/-Xv9AdwtfD8



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[dr. d]

The new models are even confusing if you are used to the PRNDL. You just only move the stick fwd and bckwd to change gears I have to check the panel to see if I am on the right gear.

Plus the electronic park button ay nasa stick mismo.

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i'm a laid-back driver.
i just put 'er in D, and enjoy the staid drive.
heh heh.

[thearsenal1205]

that's true from P..

but all AT cars can shift N to D without stepping on the brakes.. try it

even on a toyota fortuner, you can move the lever from N to R or D without stepping on the brakes.. although its kinda "gated" where you need to deliberately move the shifter slightly on the right from N to R

I've already done it when I drove my cousin's Innova E 2.8 AT. While on a standstill traffic with the handbrake on my gear position was at N. When the vehicle moved forward in front of me I shifted the gear from N to D without stepping on the brake pedal and I released my handbrake to move.

The gated style shifting also helps the driver from accidental shifting. Your are right on moving the shifter slightly from the right from N to R.

[Ry_Tower]

i can vouch na hindi pantay bro. like any other AT's vehicles i have, mas mataas ang level ng brake for the purpose na need mo talaga iangat ang paa mo to be able to step on the brake pedal. more than enough din ang distansiya in between ng accelerator at brake pedal. hindi rin mailipat ang kambyo kapag hindi nakaapak sa preno. 2012 montero owner/290k+ kms

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Yan sabi nung owner na nagapadala ng pics eh.

Check ko pala MS ng office though last saturday lang when I was driving it OOT hindi ko naman ramdam kung pantay or hindi. Basta alam ko kung nasaan preno at gas pedal.