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    #4821
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    baka akala, hindi sasagutin ng insurance...
    Yan ang magastos na akala.

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    #4822
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    baka akala, hindi sasagutin ng insurance...
    Malamang wala ng comprehensive insurance iyan, kaya naghahanap ng masisisi at mahihingian ng danyos...

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    #4823
    sa wakas may umamin din, ganito ba talaga ang monstero at kailanan apakan ang gas pedal para gumalaw? sa mga na drive ko AT (gas at diesel) ay preno inaapakan ko para dahan dahan gumalaw


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    #4824
    hindi pinakita yung driver, baka may edad na tapos hindi sanay sa matic.. ganyan usually case kaya nagkakamali nang apak..

    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    sa wakas may umamin din, ganito ba talaga ang monstero at kailanan apakan ang gas pedal para gumalaw? sa mga na drive ko AT (gas at diesel) ay preno inaapakan ko para dahan dahan gumalaw


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    #4825
    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    hindi pinakita yung driver, baka may edad na tapos hindi sanay sa matic.. ganyan usually case kaya nagkakamali nang apak..
    i wonder,
    is the monstero really more likely to SUA, compared to the non-monsteros?
    previous reports say that "they found nothing wrong with the vehicle", naman...

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    #4826
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    is the monstero really more likely to SUA, compared to the non-monsteros?
    previous reports say that "they found nothing wrong with the vehicle", naman...

    Hello Doc. let me share my obresvations as a previous owner of "that" model montero and compare it with our previous gen. fortuner. this is by no means scientific siyempre.

    1. maybe pedal placement or shape
    i have mistaken the accelerator pedal as the brake pedal on a few times. luckily enough i caught my error in time. this has never happened on our fortuner.

    2. dead pedal travel. notorious ang mga modern toyota for having a hair trigger brake pedal. also sa montero baliktad "soft" ang brake feel same to a lesser extent sa accelerator

    3. turbo lag lalo sa vgt ng montero. takes a good stab at the throttle bago umarangkada

    feeling ko confluence of at the least these makes you more prone to error. sama mo pa edad, pagod etc.

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    #4827
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    is the monstero really more likely to SUA, compared to the non-monsteros?
    previous reports say that "they found nothing wrong with the vehicle", naman...
    monstero is available in other countries pero dito lang sa pinas nag sua???

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    #4828
    parang may nabasa ako na yung pedals daw of an old model Montero halos pantay yung brake and gas pedals.. sa iba kasi mas mataas yung brake pedal hindi sya pantay sa gas.. so kailangan konting effort to press the brake..

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    is the monstero really more likely to SUA, compared to the non-monsteros?
    previous reports say that "they found nothing wrong with the vehicle", naman...

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    #4829
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    monstero is available in other countries pero dito lang sa pinas nag sua???
    Totally this! Same with Toyota (and Audi years ago) SUA incidents in the US.

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    #4830
    It is clearly driver error. Now what's making these errors frequent should be studied.

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    #4831
    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    It is clearly driver error. Now what's making these errors frequent should be studied.
    filipinos that are new to cars are more prone to error, one thing is they never mind to read the users manual...

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    #4832
    it's one thing to read the owner's manual.
    it's another thing to train leg muscle memory.

    while we should all practice conscious driving,
    in truth we all practice some degree of reflex movement, when we drive.
    alas, our reflexes do fail occasionally.

    my 1.18 pesos' worth.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 13th, 2022 at 11:53 AM.

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    #4833
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    is the monstero really more likely to SUA, compared to the non-monsteros?
    previous reports say that "they found nothing wrong with the vehicle", naman...
    Para sakin wala sa sasakyan ang problema. Nasa driver lang yan. Ang dapat gawan nila ng study eh kung ano ang common denominator nung mga driver na invloved sa SUA. Bagong drivers ba? Puyat? Senior? Distracted? Tama yung isang post na hindi lang naman dito may Montero pero bakit sa atin lang marami cases ng SUA.

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    #4834
    Quote Originally Posted by yubby24 View Post
    Para sakin wala sa sasakyan ang problema. Nasa driver lang yan. Ang dapat gawan nila ng study eh kung ano ang common denominator nung mga driver na invloved sa SUA. Bagong drivers ba? Puyat? Senior? Distracted? Tama yung isang post na hindi lang naman dito may Montero pero bakit sa atin lang marami cases ng SUA.
    i also believe it's the driver and not the car.
    several videos before seem to support that.

    is it possible that our local monstero drivers are older and more prone to error, than the furriner drivers in their country ?

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    #4835
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    monstero is available in other countries pero dito lang sa pinas nag sua???
    naalala ko tuloy maski fortuner at innova may nanisisi na din ng SUA dito sa pinas. hehe

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    #4836
    I watched the news clip.

    It's clearly 100% driver error. 100% kamote mentality.

    Why on earth he/she floored the accelerator pedal in front of a parked motorcycle with a rider on it and a parked car while getting out of the parking space?

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    #4837
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    I watched the news clip.

    It's clearly 100% driver error. 100% kamote mentality.

    Why on earth he/she floored the accelerator pedal in front of a parked motorcycle with a rider on it and a parked car while getting out of the parking space?
    "i shifted the stick to 'D', the car started moving forward, and i thought to step on the breaks!"
    in truth, he was stepping on the go-pedal.
    it's human error.

    i can identify with him.
    i made exactly the same error, years ago, in another mitsu vehicle.
    to this day, i swear i was stepping on the break and not on the silinyador.
    'buti na lang, i did not crash into mom's prize bonggabilyas.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 13th, 2022 at 12:43 PM.

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    #4838
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "i shifted the stick to 'D', the car started moving forward, and i thought to step on the breaks!"
    in truth, he was stepping on the go-pedal.
    it's human error.

    i can identify with him.
    i made exactly the same error, years ago, in another mitsu vehicle.
    to this day, i swear i was stepping on the break and not on the silinyador.
    'buti na lang, i did not crash into mom's prize bonggabilyas.

    while you stepped on the brake pedal did the vehicle still moves?

    what mitsu model did you drove that time doc?

    hindi kaya may cruise control yan?

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    #4839
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    while you stepped on the brake pedal did the vehicle still moves?

    what mitsu model did you drove that time doc?

    hindi kaya may cruise control yan?
    it was a basic 2003 lancer mx. cvt na siya, back then.
    the only extra accessory was that horrendous factory radio.

    anyways, i was already moving, and i thought to slow it down by stepping on the breaks.
    aba! biglang humarurot!
    i stepped more, the noisier the engine!
    buti na lang, a little voice at the back of my head whispered, "Step on the other break pedal to the left of what you're stepping on now!"
    whew!
    to this day, i swear i was stepping on the break pedal and not the gopedal.

    that particular model was, according to some authors, known for the engine-power-sapping ability of the cvt. in retrospect, this saved me.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 13th, 2022 at 01:19 PM.

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    #4840
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    a little voice at the back of my head whispered, "Step on the other break pedal to the left of what you're stepping on now!"
    whew!

    ang galing ng guardian angel mo doc!

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