But why is it happening only in the Philippines ?Originally Posted by niky
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November 20th, 2015 05:51 AM #1
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November 30th, 2015 08:37 PM #2Opinion ko
Drivers error yang problem sa montero kasi according sa napnood kong video di umilaw brake light and nag emit ng very dark smoke dahil baka ang alam niya ay BRAKES siya naka tapak so kung sa accelerator siya nakatapak na akala niya BRAKE pedal kaya fully depress ang accelerator kaya nagalit ang makina ng husto na cause ng pag wawala nito.
Thr video that I am referring is the white Montero that caused chaos in a tight parking space
AND according experience ko sa A/T montero GLS 2010 triny ko N to D habang naka tapak sa gas yun burnout lang so wala akong galit or problema sa Mitsubishi.
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December 1st, 2015 05:07 PM #3paps, hindi "tight" yung parking space. sadyang "tight" lang talaga yung utak nung unang driver... Originally Posted by crosswind
sinapian daw kasi ng "demonyo", kaya noong bumaba na yung "demonyo", nawala na rin yung sapi. Originally Posted by automot0
hindi mangyayari yan. to replicate the "SUA", kailangan ng dalawang ingredients: isang montero, at isang driver na moron. Originally Posted by pakjun
obviously, the moron driver of the white montero didn't floor the brakes, instead the accelerator. Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow
saka bakit ito ABS-CBN din, pero parang yung report (7:41) e nasa panig ng MMC? naku yari yan kay kabayad noli de cashtro.
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November 19th, 2015 08:30 PM #4Just now sa TV Patrol, sudden acceleration ng Montero owner sa bulacan. Mistulang "Devil Car" daw. Bumaligtad yung sasakyan.
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November 19th, 2015 10:13 PM #5Errr you can move the shifter from P without pressing the brakes?
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November 20th, 2015 09:23 AM #6Lahat ng a/t cars ko You can't move the gear shift lever from P without pressing the brake first. Diba dapat standard safety features ito ng mga a/t cars. Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow
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November 20th, 2015 10:30 AM #7nice idea! it made me think! Originally Posted by valskie01
most probably the disabled cruise control nga ito, why?
case 1: when you start your car nasa P siya, the rev is normal... you press the AT shift button to reverse, no SUA, move the lever from R to N to D, boom SUA!
case 2: start the car, move from P to R to N to D, step on the accelerator, boom SUA!
cruise control does not work on REVERSE!
the premise is DBW - Drive by wire ang montero, therefore disabling the cruise control by the factory/dealer is as simple as a jumper switch or a software version on the ECU... which we all know can fail if not properly designed and tested...
well idea ko lang ito, until this is yet to be proven which i know will not kase ang laki loss nito sa company and they would rather let the issue die, the best way to combat this SUA is presence of mind to push the AT shift lever from D to N, no need to push the safety button...
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November 20th, 2015 06:22 AM #8Yep. Bumaliktad montero nya kasi kinabig nya pakanan. Matatakot ako nyan pag ang pajero sport ng thailand at montero challenger ng australia may SUA. Sa dami ng strada dito sa pinas wala pa din reported issue regarding SUA knowing na same engine and platform sila ng montero.
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November 20th, 2015 06:53 AM #9Dapat ba lagyan na lang ng emergency engine shut off ang mga montero? Katulad ng mga generators ung pulang button na meron marking press in case of emergency.
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November 20th, 2015 08:20 AM #10I guess because there are a lot of MS on the road so the possibility of reporting a "SUA" accident increases...
Senior driver says engine goes wild, goes even wilder when he steps on the "brakes"...
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November 20th, 2015 08:42 AM #11 Originally Posted by Monseratto
Some facts, based on video/interview:
Plate Number: NSI 676 - Y2009 release - [Has Mitsubishi "recalled" MS earlier on ???]
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Owns a black Grand Starex, too. There could be a third one based on the spacing in their garage...
Allegedly,- nothing happened even if he stepped on the brake (pedal).
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November 20th, 2015 08:31 AM #12no need, presence of mind lang to push the AT shift lever from D to N, nasanay kase tayo sa wrong way of doing it na need pa pindutin ang shift lock button from D to N making risk of accidental tranny damage due to pwede siya mag slip at malagay sa REVERSE! Originally Posted by Manilablock
the safety button is there for a reason, plus also the users manual which nobody reads, next movement ng auto companies wala na hard copy ng users manual, for more added savings...
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no need, presence of mind lang to push the AT shift lever from D to N, nasanay kase tayo sa wrong way of doing it na need pa pindutin ang shift lock button from D to N making risk of accidental tranny damage due to pwede siya mag slip at malagay sa REVERSE! Originally Posted by Manilablock
the safety button is there for a reason, plus also the users manual which nobody reads, next movement ng auto companies wala na hard copy ng users manual, for more added savings...
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November 20th, 2015 08:42 AM #13sana may statistics tayo ng ilan ang may cruise control vs sa wala na nag SUA...
dito sa recent video wala siya cruise control... but if the drivers claim was true at of no fault siya meaning, the ECU received a command to floor it! something being done by a cruise control module to reach its set/reset speed, but may safety feature ito, it will only work 40km/h and above... but if the unit has no cruise control option, (maybe there is but is just being disabled by the dealer), then it might have activated but the safety feature is still disabled... just an idea...
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sana may statistics tayo ng ilan ang may cruise control vs sa wala na nag SUA...
dito sa recent video wala siya cruise control... but if the drivers claim was true at of no fault siya meaning, the ECU received a command to floor it! something being done by a cruise control module to reach its set/reset speed, but may safety feature ito, it will only work 40km/h and above... but if the unit has no cruise control option, (maybe there is but is just being disabled by the dealer), then it might have activated but the safety feature is still disabled... just an idea...
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November 20th, 2015 08:45 AM #14old tech kase ang mitsu, di pa implemented sa montero wherein the brake pedal wins vs the accelerator safety feature...
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November 20th, 2015 11:12 AM #15Pag sinabay ang apak ng gas at brake sa montero, titigil sya Originally Posted by Stigg ma
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November 20th, 2015 01:04 PM #17Drive by wire. Mag loko lang ang pedal sensor mo dyan plus panic wala na. Originally Posted by Djerms
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November 20th, 2015 03:53 PM #18Naalala ko dati nag pa carwash ako. Binalik ung floor mat sa foot well ko na naka patong sa accelerator pedal .. dahil confident ako sa carwash di ko chineck .. noticed ko lang na rubbery ung gas pedal after 500meters (after backing out and maneuvering out of the wash thats inside a tad crowded gas station) so i checked and fixed it while stopped at an an intersection (nala Stop fue to traffic). Di naman nag high rev or rev at the slightest mag-isa ung auto... Btw its not a Monty pero Pajero gamit ko ... but i think floor mats all made the same ..
Sa SUA floor mats? Really? Give me a break man ...
Pwede pa driver error ...Last edited by blue_gambit; November 20th, 2015 at 03:57 PM.
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November 20th, 2015 04:59 PM #19Actually very possible with the thicker floor mats. This was the finding in the Toyota case in the US... not a throttle error, but extra thick floor mats which could pin the gas pedal and bunch up under the brake at the same time. Originally Posted by blue_gambit
The manufacturer solution? Cut the floor mats around the gas pedal.
This is another thing I don't get about SUA... in your case, there is a known cause and there are signs before it happens... then afterwards, it still recurs. The same with the inhibitor switch failure (the one that puts the Monty in neutral). Originally Posted by glenn manikis
In SUA cases, one time big time. Then that's it.
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*Djerms... hmmm... interesting idea... so injectors degrade... start leaking extra fuel... engine goes wild?Last edited by niky; November 20th, 2015 at 05:03 PM.
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November 20th, 2015 05:05 PM #20 Originally Posted by niky
So, what's the make and model of the MS injectors?
Have they switched to another make/model? And when?
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