Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[uls]

thing is you need to be stepping on the correct pedal

ang problema kasi naka apak nga bago istart

pero naka apak sa accelerator

ang buong akala nakaapak sa brake

so madiin ang apak

pag start hi rev agad (so yun tinawag nila nag wild)

tapos shift to fwd or reverse ano mangyayari

[oj88]

Is the Strada of the same vintage identical to the montero in terms of driver ergonomics? Mechanically we can say they are they same.

I previously owned a 2nd gen montero. In the 6yrs and 80t plus kms. I owned it I could remember probably a couple or 3 incidents wherein I was momentarily parked and mistakenly left it in "D" or "R" still stepping on the brake pedal only to be surprised when transferring my foot to the accelerator. Fortunately for me no accidents. There was no time practically for the car to "creep" when transferring my foot from the brake to the gas pedal.

They're similar. Though, driving ergonomics might not be 100% identical. The same goes with the other systems, like the ECM/PCM.... I'm certain that they're not interchangeable. As such, a design flaw can potentially exist in one vehicle model that is not present in the other.

[oj88]

thing is you need to be stepping on the correct pedal

ang problema kasi naka apak nga bago istart

pero naka apak sa accelerator

ang buong akala nakaapak sa brake

so madiin ang apak

pag start hi rev agad (so yun tinawag nila nag wild)

tapos shift to fwd or reverse ano mangyayari

But that is obvious enough. You will hear the engine rev up immediately. It's so far-fetched to consider that any driver.... old or new.... would shift to a drive gear with the engine at full blast.

Yan ang hindi ko ma-reconcile.

[uls]

medyo praning na ako pag naglalakad sa mga parking area

pag may madaanan ako monstero iniisip ko baka bigla lumundag

[uls]

But that is obvious enough. You will hear the engine rev up immediately. It's so far-fetched to consider that any driver.... old or new.... would shift to a drive gear with the engine at full blast.

Yan ang hindi ko ma-reconcile.

i don't know how else to explain what that driver did sa Raon

[Egan101]

But that is obvious enough. You will hear the engine rev up immediately. It's so far-fetched to consider that any driver.... old or new.... would shift to a drive gear with the engine at full blast.

Yan ang hindi ko ma-reconcile.

Pinoy pa! Ayaw lang umamin ng iba dya na nagkamali sila. Puro excuses.

[uls]

But that is obvious enough. You will hear the engine rev up immediately. It's so far-fetched to consider that any driver.... old or new.... would shift to a drive gear with the engine at full blast.

Yan ang hindi ko ma-reconcile.

so naka apak talaga siya sa preno

nag start siya

then shift to reverse, tapos bigla nag rev mag isa ang makina? (which overwhelmed the brake)

so dapat naka ilaw ung brake light noong umatras nang mabilis

[yubby24]

Personally, ang pinaka basic additional safeguard lang sana na naiisip ko is kung ginawa lang siguru na hindi pwede mahugut ang susi kung hindi nakapark ng transmission

Alam ko hindi naman ito exclusive sa montero na design, but medyo nakakapanibago lang talaga kasi yung namamaneho ko na toyota, nissan or honda hindi naman ganun.

Pero, sanay lang din na. At tsaka bago ko tlga galawin ang at, nakapreno muna ako kahit anu dala ko.

Sa mobilio namin (pre-facelift), hindi mo maaalis sa P hanggat di mo apak ang brake pedal at pindot ng shift lock. Di mo rin maaalis ang susi kapag di nakalagay sa P. Nakagawian na rin na pagpasok sa sasakyan, brake pedal na agad nakaapak ang paa ko.

Sa daan naman, pag mmay montero sa harap o likod namin, sasabihin ni misis, "lipat ka ng lane baka biglang humarurot yan." lol

[uls]

sa tingin ko nag shift parin sya kahit mataas ang rev

akala niya siguro normal ung mataas ang rev pag unang start

[DAD525]

Monty gen3 has already the shift-interlock at key lock functions.

Shift-interlock - driver must step the brake + push button shiftlever when shifting to P to R.

Key-lock - key can not remove when shift lever is not in P.

Push B. Start - driver step brake + P before engine start ( you know agad pag mali ang apak mo)

However, pag engine already running its on the driver forward/reverse etc... i think

[17Sphynx17]

sa tingin ko nag shift parin sya kahit mataas ang rev

akala niya siguro normal ung mataas ang rev pag unang start

Actually yun din hindi ko sure bakit niya gagawin e.

Pag nagstart ako, hindi ako nakaapak sa kahit anong pedal since naka handbrake naman.

So pag tumapak ako bago magshift (na dapat brake pedal) kung mali, marinig agad bigla rebolusyon.

Ang naiisip ko, sabihin natin nakapark yang nakamontero. Hindi ba ginamit handbrake and nilagay lang niya sa park.

Tapos nung aatras para umalis, tapak sa pedal (mali na), kinalabit pa din niya yung kambyo para magreverse?

Pagod na din siguru siya galing biyahe sabi kasi bataan pa galing, trapik pa sa manila so baka medyo manhid paa/hita... O kaya relax sa upuan, di aligned ang pwetan sa sentro, wala sa sentro nga din at punta ng paa.

Mga ganun naiisip ko scenario diyan sa raon.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Lahat ng A/T alam ko pwede start in N.

Hirap din if bawal mag start in N, kasi mawawalan ng alternate gear in case masira yung park position sensor sa neutral safety switch (notice how the NSS is named after neutral, and not park).

[uls]

ok pwede naman mag start wala apak

sa P naman ung shifter

pero before you shift from P to R u need to step on the brake first right?

unless habit niya shift agad tsaka siya aapak

kung ganun maari nga nag shift siya from P to R, then apak pero ang inapakan nya accelerator imbes na preno

[oj88]

Ilan na ba "SUA" cases ng Montero to date? Five years ago, close to 100 cases na. And then, how does it compare to SUA cases of other vehicles?

[Ry_Tower]

^
kaya I have this habit of stepping on the brake first before shifting to D or R

That is the correct way. That's how I thought our drivers and my cousins and awa ng diyos wala pa naman na-SUA sa kanila kahit isa.

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[dr. d]

hastening from R to D or D to R, may result in broken transbox.
some cars are wired against it, i think.
the car must go to zero speed, first.

normally, there are only two ways to get out of P.
step on the brake pedal, or
press or kutingting the park release button. we do this before leaving the car, when parking in the full parking lot, for the "urong-sulong" maneuver.

[Ry_Tower]

Pinoy pa! Ayaw lang umamin ng iba dya na nagkamali sila. Puro excuses.

Exactly. Magkaiba feel ng brake pedal sa gas pedal.

Brake pedals have rebound effect or yung lumalaban, gas pedal have the same light resistance effect whether the engine is on or off.

Dun pa lang alam mo nang mali inaapakan niya if ever. At kapag nataranta nga, magchange gear pa. Ayun, sa halip na N eh D or R nalalagay.

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[Ry_Tower]

hastening from R to D or D to R, may result in broken transbox.
some cars are wired against it, i think.
the car must go to zero speed, first.

normally, there are only two ways to get out of P.
step on the brake pedal, or
press or kutingting the park release button. weuse this, when parking in the full parking lot, for the "urong-sulong" maneuver.

Some if you are up to a certain speed will stall the engine. Have tried it kasi. Hehe. Won't be doing that again.

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[yapoy86]

I think sa montero kasi same level yung brake at accelerator.. or too close sila..

Yung kia carnival ko dati na manual medyo magkalapit yung brake at accelerator pedal.. minsan pag hard braking nadadamay yung accelerator..

Ako naniniwala na lahat ng sua ay driver error

[dr. d]

Exactly. Magkaiba feel ng brake pedal sa gas pedal.

Brake pedals have rebound effect or yung lumalaban, gas pedal have the same light resistance effect whether the engine is on or off.

Dun pa lang alam mo nang mali inaapakan niya if ever. At kapag nataranta nga, magchange gear pa. Ayun, sa halip na N eh D or R nalalagay.

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the thicker the suelas, the more difficult to feel the difference.