Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[ClaNker]

2yrs and counting, odo nearing 40k. Kahit ano pilit ko ayaw e. :banghead: gusto ko din sumikat at mapansin.

So yung mga naaksidente pala eh gusto lang sumikat at mapansin. Di bale ng makadamay ng iba basta lang sumikat at mapansin.

[skybison]

So yung mga naaksidente pala eh gusto lang sumikat at mapansin. Di bale ng makadamay ng iba basta lang sumikat at mapansin.

Sarcastic lan. :D

[babynos01]

Some people take life too serious.
Mabilis kang tatanda nyan.

[Retz]

2yrs and counting, odo nearing 40k. Kahit ano pilit ko ayaw e. :banghead: gusto ko din sumikat at mapansin.

Don't worry, I have a dualcam dashcam at the front and another at the rear. In case sua happens to me, gagambalain ko ang mitsu using the vid as evidence!!

So far 1 recorded, 3 unrecorded fishtail of my life with the monty. Of course under wet conditions. :cool:

+ I have a bluetooth obdii reader that's synched with my android phone and keeps the travel logs. Hehe

Sir skybison, pag nangyari sayo ang SUA (knock on wood). Tska na ako magiging believer ng SUA incidents ng Monty.

[skybison]

Sir skybison, pag nangyari sayo ang SUA (knock on wood). Tska na ako magiging believer ng SUA incidents ng Monty.

iingay talaga ako. :D (baka pwede ko pa pagkaperahan wahehehe)

[HondaWay]

Sa Non-V, non-turbo version, automatic wala ba itong SUA?

[clairenceh]

Sa Non-V, non-turbo version, automatic wala ba itong SUA?

afaik mas marami nangyari dati pa, nuong wala pang vgt.

[babynos01]

Naexperience ko na yang SUA na yan e.
Gas pedal pala inaapakan ko instead of brake pedal.

Last month naexperience ko siya sa expressway. Umabot ng 180 speed ko
SUA pa ba yun? haha :confused:

[clairenceh]

Naexperience ko na yang SUA na yan e.
Gas pedal pala inaapakan ko instead of brake pedal.

Last month naexperience ko siya sa expressway. Umabot ng 180 speed ko
SUA pa ba yun? haha :confused:

Parang hindi naman "sudden" :D

[kompressor]

Sa Non-V, non-turbo version, automatic wala ba itong SUA?

All of them have turbos. The difference is the absence of a variable geometry thingie sa non-VGT.

[Walter]

That person probably has an agenda so it's useless convincing him / her. Scientific proof won't do any good. He /She went as far as posting a decade old article so you won't change his / her mind.

[EVO-V]

That person probably has an agenda so it's useless convincing him / her. Scientific proof won't do any good. He /She went as far as posting a decade old article so you won't change his / her mind.

And what AGENDA is that Walter? For someone who likes to drop terms like "scientific" and "proof" you jumped on this shoot the messenger campaign rather quickly. I could say the same of you. What's your agenda?

A decade old article reflects a systematic process within Mitsubishi to continually ignore and hide complaints. If history is such a poor teacher for you then you shouldn't be making these remarks as they are irrelevant.

FYI, Mitsubishi vehicles comprise a good number of our small fleet. I am a fan of Mitsubishi, at least up until they introduced that abomination called the Evo VII. We own two Monteros, one 2009 M/T (already dispatched) and one 2011 A/T. I also owned an Evo V at one point in time and develop performance components for these and similar vehicles. The company has a host of utility vehicles bearing the 3 diamond emblem.

So yeah, I think my agenda is pretty simple -its called consumer rights! We have the right to know what is going on. We have the right to know if we are in danger, we have the right to know if driving this vehicle incurs us liabilities.

With the 2009 GLS I experienced the engine cutting out while shifting gears at 40-60 kph. This repeated itself, of course the CASA people can't replicate it on demand and just shrugged.

The presupposition here is that you're relying on bad faith from consumers. What I yet have to look at is an actual analysis on how many Monteros are involved in such accidents in relation to other APS-equipped SUV's from other models/makes.

An electronic problem cannot be replicated on demand nor will it leave a footprint. What you really have to rely on is a statistical analysis to determine whether these complaints are more than just a blip.

Because if we were to simply talk about this on the basis of rumor or scaremongering, then the burden of proof is on the manufacturer. The least the press can do is actually do a bit of homework than just label these things as anecdotal.

To be healthily skeptical, how many of these cases did you have "old" drivers cited? Sudden acceleration involving older drivers, tend to have the car already geared into Drive. In cases involving the Montero, the engine revved up as the vehicle is either placed into R or D, which means that the brakes are (at least in the case of R) engaged.

Understand that the people in these cases, majority of which involve a Montero, aren't exactly out to profit from sharing their experience. Insurance takes care of the damage. The overriding concern is for public safety. The world is thankfully not as simple as Walter sees it.

That sounds disturbingly similar to what Toyota was singing up until they were forced to admit potential problems with their components.

Failure analysis thrives mostly on numbers. Quality control systems are sensitive enough to note unusual reports which leads them to a finite set potential causes.

How customers have been treated, is just another point of aggravation. What are the demographics of Montero drivers, are they all that old to be so prone to age-related driver errors?

Personally, I am looking at this more on a sensor and silicon level.

The easiest way to determine if this merits a better look has been to review the numbers. How many accidents has the Montero been involved in that has been cited as SUA? Then go deeper, talk to the drivers and vehicle owners, collate factors, then run another stat regression.

The demographics of these people vary, well enough to say that to be driven by malice or financial gain is too simplistic an excuse to summarily dismiss their claims because of a suspicion of an "agenda". The average income of a Montero owner will most likely preclude them from wanting the inconvenience of being figured in an accident let alone handling the liabilities.

I'm all for a major investigation by the government. So that the case can be put to rest. Like I said... you cannot look at the cases and simply say: "This is the cause." So I could still be wrong about driver error.

Yes because we place so much faith in government protection of consumer rights that they should be the one to examine this. Come on! That's just like saying NEVER INVESTIGATE.

Where are the numbers?

[monty_GTV]

FYI, Mitsubishi vehicles comprise a good number of our small fleet. I am a fan of Mitsubishi, at least up until they introduced that abomination called the Evo VII. We own two Monteros, one 2009 M/T (already dispatched) and one 2011 A/T. I also owned an Evo V at one point in time and develop performance components for these and similar vehicles. The company has a host of utility vehicles bearing the 3 diamond emblem.

if you are a fan of mitsu and you personally own two monteros, then why not direct your question and demand an explanation from them?

So yeah, I think my agenda is pretty simple -its called consumer rights! We have the right to know what is going on. We have the right to know if we are in danger, we have the right to know if driving this vehicle incurs us liabilities.

for consumer rights i think you can to go to DTI and ask them what is going on? and maybe from them you can find out whether driving your 2009 and 2011 montero are putting you in danger...

i must say that i am one of the lucky ones that have not experienced these so called SUA. what i am experiencing now is the SIA, or sudden intended acceleration brought by the minor modifications i added like k&n air filter, diesel chip, sprint booster, bigger diameter exhaust system and EGR blanking. so much of my hunger of needed acceleration that i am now considering upgrading to a bigger front mount intercooler...

[skybison]

It's alive again! Ilan na ba sales ng monty?

[kapitan88]

last quearter of the year, tumataas na ang car sales.

[111prez]

Showing na kasi ulit ang "The Walking Dead"

[Retz]

na up ulit itong thread? meron na naman bagong SUA incident?

[Djerms]

Two of our industry friends experienced this sua. Yes its a friend. No personal experience with the SUA so Believe it or not...I dont care.

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[nivraarvin]

When this happens, BRAKE!!

If you still accelerate and the revs build up, your foot maybe on the wrong pedal.

[Retz]

^

ang problema sir eh natataranta kaya mali ung inaapakan.