Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[ClaNker]

Bro.,- when you say it lurches,- did you mean it's like a shift shock (comparison here: when you put the AT stick to D in an old diesel ride?)... If that is the case, I also experienced it on my bug-eyed Starex ride....


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Di shift shock bro. Tumataas ang rpm nya pag engage ng A/C resulting to the truck lurching forward pag nasa stop ang go traffic sya.

[glenn_duke]

Dinala nya na sa casa, as usual walang makitang problema sa scanner.

Aldub? Really? Damn despicable fanboy mentality.

Baka naman sabihin mong nag uuliyanin lang yung kaibigan ko, 68 na yun. Bago ka humirit, puro MT dina-drive nun at super fit pa dahil active sa mt bike group.

Kung kumbinsido siyang may diperensya yang montero nya at walang action yung MMPC edi ipa media niya kila kabayad, baka ma buy back pa.
Mag take chances siya na tuwing aandar aircon niya sisibat monty nya, napaka iresponsable naman nyan, hihintayin paba niyang maka aksidente siya bago siya mag reklamo.

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[Syuryuken]

Di shift shock bro. Tumataas ang rpm nya pag engage ng A/C resulting to the truck lurching forward pag nasa stop ang go traffic sya.

kahit hindi naka engage yung kambyo niya?

[ClaNker]

kahit hindi naka engage yung kambyo niya?

Of course naka engage ang kambyo nya. Alisto sya sa brake pag crawling sya sa traffic dahil pag nag engage ang A/C eh biglang tumataas ang rpm enough for the car to lurch forward.

Since MT yung sa kanya eh di sya gaanong nababahala. From his own mouth... "Paano na lang pag AT yan at bagohan ang driver o nagulat"

[confused shoes]

kahit hindi naka engage yung kambyo niya?

Siguro bossing, slow moving kaya naka engage yung kambyo. Stop n go daw eh. Preno-bitaw siguro. Pagbitaw ng preno timing na nag engage naman ang A/C.

Dapat dyan isama yung mekaniko ng casa sa stop n go situation.

[hilldweller]

Just spoke to a friend who owns a 1 year old glx MT Monty. According to him eh everytime his Monty's A/C engages his rpm goes up resulting to the car lurching forward. Alisto na lang daw sya sa brake during stop and go traffic.

Yes SUA is a legitimate concern to him.

Even if the clutch pedal is fully depressed? From fully depressed position, slightly release the clutch pedal up to its catch point without pressing the gas pedal when aircon is on (higher rpm), the car will move slowly moreso, sa Montero which is torquey. Drive the MT car at cold start, the car will move forward without pressing the gas pedal faster than when the aircon is on at warmed up engine.

[ClaNker]

Kung kumbinsido siyang may diperensya yang montero nya at walang action yung MMPC edi ipa media niya kila kabayad, baka ma buy back pa.
Mag take chances siya na tuwing aandar aircon niya sisibat monty nya, napaka iresponsable naman nyan, hihintayin paba niyang maka aksidente siya bago siya mag reklamo.

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Para maibestigahan at ng malaman kung may basehan ba o epekto lang ng dementia yan.

When you say sisibat I take it to mean rev to kingdom come, resulting to accident. Di ganon ka lala ang case nun

Wow so uliyanin lang pala ang case ng kaibigan ko. Iba talaga takbo ng utak fanboy.

Salamat sa advice mo boy, bistado kana dito.

[ClaNker]

Siguro bossing, slow moving kaya naka engage yung kambyo. Stop n go daw eh. Preno-bitaw siguro. Pagbitaw ng preno timing na nag engage naman ang A/C.

Dapat dyan isama yung mekaniko ng casa sa stop n go situation.

Ganyan nga ang scenario. Ginawa na nila yan, walang makitang problema ang casa.

[altec]

lahat na lang ng problema puro SUA na. All these SUA reported by ABS CBN di makita ang problema sa pag check up nila, ayaw lumabas when they either check or try to let the problem come out. Yung problema na lurching, obviously makita ang problema. Dapat kaysa magpanic at maghakahaka, ipatingin na lang sa shop. Walang mangyayari except mababaliw sa takot ang tao kung hanggang iisipin na SUA ito.

But if napatingin na nila at normal lang yun, yan ang issue ko sa casa. Lahat na lang normal. Aside from what I said about my alternator and voltage drop experience, sinabihan din ako ng casa na yung shift shock complaint ko normal daw sa a/t. Sabi ko sa kanila i don't experience the same rough shift shock with other brands like toyota, kia, honda.

Yan ang ayoko sa too much dependence on laptops and computer scanner. Pag lumabas ang check engine, di na alam ng mekaniko ano kaya ang problema kasi puro dependent sa obd nila. Gone are the days of old school mechanics na pag test drive alam na nila ang problema.

[aioshin]

lahat na lang ng problema puro SUA na. All these SUA reported by ABS CBN di makita ang problema sa pag check up nila, ayaw lumabas when they either check or try to let the problem come out. Yung problema na lurching, obviously makita ang problema. Dapat kaysa magpanic at maghakahaka, ipatingin na lang sa shop. Walang mangyayari except mababaliw sa takot ang tao kung hanggang iisipin na SUA ito.

Yung Lurching, kahit sa Mitsubishi Spacewagon ko dati, nang yayari yun, ganun, pag engage ng AC tapos naka gear ka, dahil sa sudden need ng AC for power, mag activate Idle UP nya, kaya nag a-accelerate, pero usually naman is pag ganyang very slow flow of traffic, either nasa 1st gear ka, or second gear, so very minimal na aarangakada yung sasakyan.

[Monty]

Di shift shock bro. Tumataas ang rpm nya pag engage ng A/C resulting to the truck lurching forward pag nasa stop ang go traffic sya.

How old is the truck? Baka may problema ang compressor kaya nag high-rev to compensate.

[ClaNker]

How old is the truck? Baka may problema ang compressor kaya nag high-rev to compensate.

1 year old pa lang ang Monty nya, alaga pa ng casa. Ok naman daw ang compressor according sa casa.

[ClaNker]

Yung Lurching, kahit sa Mitsubishi Spacewagon ko dati, nang yayari yun, ganun, pag engage ng AC tapos naka gear ka, dahil sa sudden need ng AC for power, mag activate Idle UP nya, kaya nag a-accelerate, pero usually naman is pag ganyang very slow flow of traffic, either nasa 1st gear ka, or second gear, so very minimal na aarangakada yung sasakyan.

Never encountered that in my previous old ang current car. Ang trabaho lang ng idle-up is to compensate for the load of the compressor. Walang effect dapat yan sa movement ng sasakyan.

My previous car is a 1997 mt mazda ang my current car is 2004 at Nissan.

[washburn]

Ano pa ba ang sabi ng expert ng MMPC other than pointing the blame of all SUA cases to the driver?

30 buy back cases and now simulation.

My friend's MT Monty lurches when he's in gear and the A/C engages.

Hmm nasa manual yan, may warning na yung vehicle may lurch forward or backward (depends kung paforward kaw or pa backward) if a/c engages/disengages

[altec]

dont have a m/t ms (mine is a/t) but I used to have a 10 m/t strada and now a early 2015 (not the new model design) m/t strada. Since pareho lang naman ang makina nila, no lurching experienced.

[ClaNker]

dont have a m/t ms (mine is a/t) but I used to have a 10 m/t strada and now a early 2015 (not the new model design) m/t strada. Since pareho lang naman ang makina nila, no lurching experienced.

My other friend's AT monty don't have this lurching problem either.

[kamote25]

DTI cites urgency in Montero SUA probe | mb.com.ph | Philippine News

[automot0]

Hmm nasa manual yan, may warning na yung vehicle may lurch forward or backward (depends kung paforward kaw or pa backward) if a/c engages/disengages

ang problema kasi madaming di nagbabasa ng manual, basta marunong mag drive magaling na sila di na kailangan pa magbasa.

guilty ako dito.

[ClaNker]

ang problema kasi madaming di nagbabasa ng manual, basta marunong mag drive magaling na sila di na kailangan pa magbasa.

guilty ako dito.

Ibig sabihin nyan eh normal lang sa Monty na kumakadyot pag nag engage ang compressor? Meaning the idle-up over compensates the load of the compressor enough that you have to step on the brakes.

I've never encountered this problem. Usually rpm drops pag madumi ang throttle body and the compressor engages.

[niky]

Hmm nasa manual yan, may warning na yung vehicle may lurch forward or backward (depends kung paforward kaw or pa backward) if a/c engages/disengages

Stands to reason... if the rpm changes due to idle-up, as long as the engine is transmitting power to the wheels, acceleration will change.

I think you will not easily notice this on AT models because the torque converter acts to dampen changes in torque output.

DTI cites urgency in Montero SUA probe | mb.com.ph | Philippine News

So he will push for a recall... to do what? If they can't even prove that there is an issue with the electronic accelerator of affected units, what will they do with the unaffected units?

They have to pinpoint the mechanism that they feel is suspect before issuing a recall, otherwise, they're wasting everyone's time.