Installing a Turbo Intercooler sa 4d56 engine?!..

**TOiNk-19-** · May 15th, 2008 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by rion

if you could pull through a low charge turbo with the exhaust, oil and water plumbing, then your adventure will be one of a kind.

Sir hindi ku po masyado nagets!? Hmmm.. Sorry po aanga anga nanaman ako..

So pag ganyan po hindi ko na kelangan ng intercooler?

Okei sir san po kaya adviseable mag hanap nito!? Kasi po sa iba iba po advise na mga mechanic eh.. Yung iba pwede ku day lagyan ng turbo charger without replacing the head?.. Yung iba naman po kelangan day po replace yung head..

**TOiNk-19-** · May 15th, 2008 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel_Torque

Bro tanong ka sa Nodalos ng upgrade headers pra sa Adventure and palagyan mo ng Oil Cooler sa Speedlab, sa ung intercooler type katulad ng sa Starex pero pang Oil yun lang i think mag-gagain kna kaagad ng extr 20 to 30 HP plus torque tpos basta ung pinaka Light na Mags ilagay mo hataw kna nun.

Okei sir try ku na mag ask next week!? San nga po pala located ang nodalos and speedlab!? Thanks po sa reply.. Pag nag install po ako ng turbo charger na walang palitan ng cylinder head.. Wala pong gain diba!?

**TOiNk-19-** · May 15th, 2008 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by rion

tama ba ito? 20-30HP? yes theoriticaly, cooler engine will run efficient, but isn't 30 hp too much for a oil cooler? I mean a intercooler turbo could give as much as 15 to 20% percent lang diba?

Sir thanks po sa reply.. Really appreciate it..

**rion** · May 15th, 2008 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by TOiNk-19-

Sir hindi ku po masyado nagets!? Hmmm.. Sorry po aanga anga nanaman ako..

So pag ganyan po hindi ko na kelangan ng intercooler?

Okei sir san po kaya adviseable mag hanap nito!? Kasi po sa iba iba po advise na mga mechanic eh.. Yung iba pwede ku day lagyan ng turbo charger without replacing the head?.. Yung iba naman po kelangan day po replace yung head..

I meant if you can install a low charge turbo like from sportivo. oks yun. peru mahirap yan, you need to hook your engine's oil and water lines plus the exhaust line in the turbo.

in short, installing it won't be a walk in the park.

I believe no need to replace the head. though intercooler is not advisable. low charge kasi eh... methanol injection nalang siguro. it is more effective than intercooler.

**RAC Tech** · May 16th, 2008 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by TOiNk-19-

Mga sir anu po ba mga mods na gagawin pag naglagay po ako ng turbo charger and intercooler sa 4d56 na 02 adventure?..

Or any mods na pwedeng gawin parang mag increase ang torque and max speed?..

Gusto ku lang po kasi madagdagan ang torque and speed niya eh..

Para po makapagpalit ng tires and mags.. And hindi po nakakainip sa long drives..

Ngayon po all stock po siya except for the 6 ply bridgestone dueler tire.. 125kph max niya ang tagal pa po and hirap na hirap na..

Thanks in advance mga sir..

Bro, ganyan rin problem ko, 4d56 kasi mabagal sa arangkada, ginaya ko yun fuel saver ng blade mahal kasi eh kapiraso lang siya 3,400 na, para sa akin dapat tawag sa kanya Torque enhancer kasi para ka ng nka 4JA1 based on my Experience konti lang fuel saving niya, napansin ko agad ang haba ng 2ndGear ko bigay na bigay ba. Ang trabaho lang naman niya ay i distribute ng equal ang hangin sa intake. Be sure pag ginaya mo di siya mahihigop sa loob otherwise sira ang engine. Mga pampasaherong Jeep dito sa area namin meron niyan gawa sa yero...

**TOiNk-19-** · May 17th, 2008 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by rion

I meant if you can install a low charge turbo like from sportivo. oks yun. peru mahirap yan, you need to hook your engine's oil and water lines plus the exhaust line in the turbo.

in short, installing it won't be a walk in the park.

I believe no need to replace the head. though intercooler is not advisable. low charge kasi eh... methanol injection nalang siguro. it is more effective than intercooler.

Okei po sir.. San po kaya maganda performance shop na makipagusap for aditional advices? And low charge charger lang po ba ok na? Hindi na kailangan yung sa mga starex?

**TOiNk-19-** · May 17th, 2008 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by RAC Tech

Bro, ganyan rin problem ko, 4d56 kasi mabagal sa arangkada, ginaya ko yun fuel saver ng blade mahal kasi eh kapiraso lang siya 3,400 na, para sa akin dapat tawag sa kanya Torque enhancer kasi para ka ng nka 4JA1 based on my Experience konti lang fuel saving niya, napansin ko agad ang haba ng 2ndGear ko bigay na bigay ba. Ang trabaho lang naman niya ay i distribute ng equal ang hangin sa intake. Be sure pag ginaya mo di siya mahihigop sa loob otherwise sira ang engine. Mga pampasaherong Jeep dito sa area namin meron niyan gawa sa yero...

Thanks sir.. Na try niyo na din po ba sa rekta sir?

**rion** · May 17th, 2008 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by RAC Tech

Bro, ganyan rin problem ko, 4d56 kasi mabagal sa arangkada, ginaya ko yun fuel saver ng blade mahal kasi eh kapiraso lang siya 3,400 na, para sa akin dapat tawag sa kanya Torque enhancer kasi para ka ng nka 4JA1 based on my Experience konti lang fuel saving niya, napansin ko agad ang haba ng 2ndGear ko bigay na bigay ba. Ang trabaho lang naman niya ay i distribute ng equal ang hangin sa intake. Be sure pag ginaya mo di siya mahihigop sa loob otherwise sira ang engine. Mga pampasaherong Jeep dito sa area namin meron niyan gawa sa yero...

I'm skeptic about that bro. if you look at the fuel saving thread may explaination dun galing sa experts from tsikot and references from other sites.

Originally Posted by TOiNk-19-

Okei po sir.. San po kaya maganda performance shop na makipagusap for aditional advices? And low charge charger lang po ba ok na? Hindi na kailangan yung sa mga starex?

sorry bro, I really have no idea how it will turn out. sabi ko nga, your ride will be one of a kind because I have yet to know someone have installed it.

about the starex oilcooler, I think you have a certainty of installing it successfuly. since based from Diesel_Torque's good experience na yun. and your best shop for that will be speedlab as he also recommend it. you can also pm sir speedyfix for advices. btw, may oil cooler din from 4d56 turbo pajero (just distinguish the oil cooler, NOT the atf oil cooler)

**alwayz_yummy** · May 17th, 2008 02:24 PM

eto tandaan mo: not all 4d56 are the same..

sa internals yan magkakatalo...turbo charged 4d56 have a sturdier internal components to than 4d56NA..

tanda ko A B C rating nung piston, rings,etc...

just like 4JA1, the "turbo" that the matic crosswinds and new sportivos/xwinds are just low-charged--kaya halos 2 hp lang gain.. iba ang real 4JA1-T.

so kung gusto mo talagang lagyan ng turbo 4d56 mo, either, get a 4d56 from a 4wd strada, delica, 4x2 spacegear, pajero..

pero ako, kung may adventure ako, nakow i would ditch that 4d56 for a 4M40/4M41 Did hehehe..

just remember, kung gusto mo i-turbo mo stock 4d56NA ng adventure mo, hanap ka ng LPT(light pressure turbo) compressor, boost controller, oil lines, water lines..kahit wala nang intercooler kasi LPT naman...

for the meantime, just be contented with the "turbo" badge/emblem and pajero's "intercooler turbo" and "intercooler turbo2800" side body stickers..

and ipunin mo nalang pera mo for engine transplant or engine change...wag ka na pauto sa mga fuel savers,etc...just maintain mo to top condition ang makina, alam min mo ang power characteristics ng engine, di ka mapapahiya nyan...

ps: sisi nga ako binenta ko pa delica ko noon... kaya alam ko power at maintenance din ng 4d56...

**TOiNk-19-** · May 17th, 2008 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy

eto tandaan mo: not all 4d56 are the same..

sa internals yan magkakatalo...turbo charged 4d56 have a sturdier internal components to than 4d56NA..

tanda ko A B C rating nung piston, rings,etc...

just like 4JA1, the "turbo" that the matic crosswinds and new sportivos/xwinds are just low-charged--kaya halos 2 hp lang gain.. iba ang real 4JA1-T.

so kung gusto mo talagang lagyan ng turbo 4d56 mo, either, get a 4d56 from a 4wd strada, delica, 4x2 spacegear, pajero..

pero ako, kung may adventure ako, nakow i would ditch that 4d56 for a 4M40/4M41 Did hehehe..

just remember, kung gusto mo i-turbo mo stock 4d56NA ng adventure mo, hanap ka ng LPT(light pressure turbo) compressor, boost controller, oil lines, water lines..kahit wala nang intercooler kasi LPT naman...

for the meantime, just be contented with the "turbo" badge/emblem and pajero's "intercooler turbo" and "intercooler turbo2800" side body stickers..

and ipunin mo nalang pera mo for engine transplant or engine change...wag ka na pauto sa mga fuel savers,etc...just maintain mo to top condition ang makina, alam min mo ang power characteristics ng engine, di ka mapapahiya nyan...

ps: sisi nga ako binenta ko pa delica ko noon... kaya alam ko power at maintenance din ng 4d56...

Thanks sir.. Siguro po palitan ku nalang air intake.. Ok na po yun.. Yung methanol injection hindi ko po ma figure out ang gagawin sa engine ko eh.. Kelangan pa ng container something.. Haha! Then hayaan ko nalang po muna the rest stock.. Although pag tinopak baka try ko yung methanol injection.. Less smoke daw po, less consumption sa krudo and more gain daw po yun..

Tapos pag nagpalit po ako ng air intake.. Kung 5000km po palit ko ng langis magiging 4000km nalang po diba!?

Nga pala sir talking about delica.. Yan po gamit ng bro ko yung space gear(delica).. Grabe nga power noon.. Haha!