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  1. Join Date
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    Hi guys, tanong ko lang kung kumusta ang lancer box type in terms of maintenance, parts, registration etc. okay pa ba siya? or mahirap siya imaintain dahil wala na masiyado available na parts? mahal na ba mga piyesa? malakas na din ba siya sa gas innately due to the old engine design?

    Gusto ko kasi sana ng very basic car, manual windows, manual side mirrors, manual tranny, at kahit no air con basta good running condition.
    Here's the thing kasi, my mom bought a scooter a few years back pang palenke lang and subdivision use kaso it's been sitting at my place kasi depreciating lang for the past 5 years (6k kms odo palang) and ayoko naman ng scoot, I also have my own bike/car. Feel ko sayang lang kaya I want to trade it sana sa box type; kasi I feel the box type has already reached it's maximum depreciation saka I also want a long term project car yung dahan dahan ko lang papagandahin hehe. would that be a good idea? hihingin ko nalang sa kanya yung scoot hehe.

    Also I am currently a mech eng student/ nag aaral ng fabrication, ano ano po kaya ang kasiya na engines/trannies sa box type if I were to swap it's engine one day? 4age? sr20? 4g63(although these only came in transverse)?

    what should I look out for sa boxtypes other than rust sa chassis?

    thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumTanzer View Post
    Hi guys, tanong ko lang kung kumusta ang lancer box type in terms of maintenance, parts, registration etc. okay pa ba siya? or mahirap siya imaintain dahil wala na masiyado available na parts? mahal na ba mga piyesa? malakas na din ba siya sa gas innately due to the old engine design?

    Gusto ko kasi sana ng very basic car, manual windows, manual side mirrors, manual tranny, at kahit no air con basta good running condition.
    Here's the thing kasi, my mom bought a scooter a few years back pang palenke lang and subdivision use kaso it's been sitting at my place kasi depreciating lang for the past 5 years (6k kms odo palang) and ayoko naman ng scoot, I also have my own bike/car. Feel ko sayang lang kaya I want to trade it sana sa box type; kasi I feel the box type has already reached it's maximum depreciation saka I also want a long term project car yung dahan dahan ko lang papagandahin hehe. would that be a good idea? hihingin ko nalang sa kanya yung scoot hehe.

    Also I am currently a mech eng student/ nag aaral ng fabrication, ano ano po kaya ang kasiya na engines/trannies sa box type if I were to swap it's engine one day? 4age? sr20? 4g63(although these only came in transverse)?

    what should I look out for sa boxtypes other than rust sa chassis?

    thanks!!!
    Hi IMHO as I'm also driving a lancer 78 since same engine ito ng boxtype 4g33.
    - Basic Parts engine still available.
    - mahirap na parts nito eh makakahanap sa mga katay boys.
    - Parts minsan mahal minsan mura depende sa seller ;) yung iba kasi junk shop ang focus not the orig parts.
    - Rubber parts doors and windshields medyo mahirap at chrome trims.
    - sa gas matipid dapat ito dahil carb depende nalang sa tune-up at carb tuning. ako 500 php gas [Las Pinas to Tangdang Sora two way na]
    - if road worthy hanap mo start sa good chassis, flooring and body. Now a days mahal din ang mag body repair at paint plus time consuming.
    - steering pawis kasi or you want to convert it sa power steering.
    - engine transplant some guys I met they installed 4g63 engine on it.

    HTH Let me know if you need assistant hanap kita ng prospect na boxtype.

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    Better to restore a Mercedes Benz W123 ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongze View Post
    Hi IMHO as I'm also driving a lancer 78 since same engine ito ng boxtype 4g33.
    - Basic Parts engine still available.
    - mahirap na parts nito eh makakahanap sa mga katay boys.
    - Parts minsan mahal minsan mura depende sa seller ;) yung iba kasi junk shop ang focus not the orig parts.
    - Rubber parts doors and windshields medyo mahirap at chrome trims.
    - sa gas matipid dapat ito dahil carb depende nalang sa tune-up at carb tuning. ako 500 php gas [Las Pinas to Tangdang Sora two way na]
    - if road worthy hanap mo start sa good chassis, flooring and body. Now a days mahal din ang mag body repair at paint plus time consuming.
    - steering pawis kasi or you want to convert it sa power steering.
    - engine transplant some guys I met they installed 4g63 engine on it.

    HTH Let me know if you need assistant hanap kita ng prospect na boxtype.
    So basically typical older jdm car problems lang pala sir, I can live with that. It's nice to know na pwede po pala 4G63 para mitsubishi pa rin at heart, will definitely look more into that. Gusto ko rin po kasi sana mag engine swap just to try it, parang thesis ko po sana and just to test ng skills sa fabrication/welding.

    Matipid na rin po pala sa gas sir considering it's age; 500php for a round trip to T. sora is way better than what I have right now, yung daily ko kasi sir umaabot 800 php from muntinlupa to commonwealth/fairview one way with moderate traffic (esp. ginagawa mrt 7 ngayon) kaya oks na ako sa ganun hehehe. maintain and tune nalang ng carbs frequently.

    I don't mind the pawis steering sir hehe that's 1 less thing to worry about po kasi, gusto ko po sana ngayon all manual lahat so I just have to worry about making it run good enough.

    Maraming salamat po sir! I'll pm you sir once I sort things out, if that's okay hehe.
    I'd love to learn more about Mitsubishi cars, I'm more of a nissan guy kasi sa ngayon.
    Salamat ulit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Better to restore a Mercedes Benz W123 ...
    I would love a W123 sir, but funds are limited for the meanwhile with me being a student still.

    Once I graduate and get a more stable income though I'd probably try and get myself a w124 wagon in signal red hehe, yun kasi isa sa mga dream car ko

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    Box Type first car ko in college!

    It was old then... I can't imagine buying a used one now (2018)

    IMO, main issues for me. (approx 20 years ago)
    1. It still uses a contact point+condenser+coil - I think you can have this replaced with an electronic system now.
    2. Internal switches / aircon vents - aircon, fog lamp etc - pag nasira, wala kang makitang replacement
    3. Clutch cable & adjuster - ang hirap hanapin ng rubber adjuster nya ng clutch
    4. Side Mirror - I think 2 times ako nag palit looking for the perfect one.
    5. Windshield washer - palaging miss aligned

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Box Type first car ko in college!

    It was old then... I can't imagine buying a used one now (2018)

    IMO, main issues for me. (approx 20 years ago)
    1. It still uses a contact point+condenser+coil - I think you can have this replaced with an electronic system now.
    2. Internal switches / aircon vents - aircon, fog lamp etc - pag nasira, wala kang makitang replacement
    3. Clutch cable & adjuster - ang hirap hanapin ng rubber adjuster nya ng clutch
    4. Side Mirror - I think 2 times ako nag palit looking for the perfect one.
    5. Windshield washer - palaging miss aligned
    Thank you sir for the input!
    I don't mind old, old is cool 'ika nga nila :grin.
    Trim pieces po pala talaga ang rare hmm. Just recently joined groups sa fb about spare parts, medyo inactive ang groups and rare nga talaga ang trim pieces. worse comes to worst po siguro if I get a box type I might go race inspired and just install an aluminum dash and just forget about the switches.

    San po kaya ang "Go to" with regards naman po sa mga mechanical parts? marami pa po kaya sa evangelista? or perhaps banawe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Better to restore a Mercedes Benz W123 ...
    I agree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumTanzer View Post
    Hi guys, tanong ko lang kung kumusta ang lancer box type in terms of maintenance, parts, registration etc. okay pa ba siya? or mahirap siya imaintain dahil wala na masiyado available na parts? mahal na ba mga piyesa? malakas na din ba siya sa gas innately due to the old engine design?

    Gusto ko kasi sana ng very basic car, manual windows, manual side mirrors, manual tranny, at kahit no air con basta good running condition.
    Here's the thing kasi, my mom bought a scooter a few years back pang palenke lang and subdivision use kaso it's been sitting at my place kasi depreciating lang for the past 5 years (6k kms odo palang) and ayoko naman ng scoot, I also have my own bike/car. Feel ko sayang lang kaya I want to trade it sana sa box type; kasi I feel the box type has already reached it's maximum depreciation saka I also want a long term project car yung dahan dahan ko lang papagandahin hehe. would that be a good idea? hihingin ko nalang sa kanya yung scoot hehe.

    Also I am currently a mech eng student/ nag aaral ng fabrication, ano ano po kaya ang kasiya na engines/trannies sa box type if I were to swap it's engine one day? 4age? sr20? 4g63(although these only came in transverse)?

    what should I look out for sa boxtypes other than rust sa chassis?

    thanks!!!
    a late 90s sentra efi or corolla gli.
    they were so popular back then, and are still plentiful today, that i believe you will have an an easier time looking for parts for these, than a lancer box type.
    also, i read somewhere, that their engines are among the most durable ever.
    efi is usually maintenance-free, compared to carburator. also, few people today know how to work a carburator, not to mention, sourcing of wear and tear parts.

    i used to drive a lancer boxtype.
    the sentra and corolla are more comfortable to drive.
    no amount of fixing, can make up for the advances in design engineering and technology.
    Last edited by dr. d; July 17th, 2018 at 02:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumTanzer View Post
    I would love a W123 sir, but funds are limited for the meanwhile with me being a student still.

    Once I graduate and get a more stable income though I'd probably try and get myself a w124 wagon in signal red hehe, yun kasi isa sa mga dream car ko
    Given the rarity of the box type parts baka mas mura or pareho pa ng cost ng w123. Madming parts pa rin w123 vs older japs.


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