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  1. Join Date
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    Help me decide on what to get/replacement for my 1994 FX.

    I have 500K budget. I'm suppose to get a 2nd hand Toyota VX200J 2002 model last week at 480K, but the seller backout at the last minute.

    Sumama tuloy loob ka he he he... kaya nag isip ko why not Subic Pajero (diesel, 5-door)) (btw, pareho lang ba ang pajero, exceed at montero?).

    I have a good friend who can help me get a sariwa pajero from Malinta. In short, may contact sya from one of the auction center sa Malinta and promised me that I can get a unit 320-400K. I can request pa nga daw na "palitan ang dapat palitan" bago ilabas ng auction house (ganoon kalakas ang contact nya). Then gastos daw ako ng mga 50-100K for what ever conversion and pampogi points. I'm planning to go on Malinta this coming Thursday, together with my friend's Pajero mechanic from Laguna.

    Advise naman ng iba ay mag revo na lang daw ako dahil nga baka magkaproblema ako sa conversion ng Subic Pajero and may cause accident. Mababa rin daw and re-sale value ng Subic Pajero... pero i still believe na ok ang Subic Pajero if i can perfect the conversion.

    What should i look at when i go to the auction house? ano bang model ang ok sa pajero na diesel...How much kaya ang aabutiin aside the good conversion, new dashboard and LHD steering?

    Pls help... may pros and cons na daw ang Subic pajero, kindly share me the link... still, i welcome your reply here.

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    #2
    Sa Saturday pa pala ako pupunta sa Malinta...

    Yung mga ka bordello brothers ko d2 buhay pa ba?

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    subic pajero owner here, going 2 years.. no major problems so far, just the a/c breaking down... my paj has done numerous trips up north.. i'm very satisfied with it.

    imo, in terms of ride comfort, hands down sa pajero.. and though its a diesel, its pretty quiet inside the cabin.

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    went to the last auction at subic last month...exceeds at auction at 290K to 320K...

    cons
    quality of the convertion
    aircon
    detail detail detail
    chop chop dash (karamihan)

    pros
    a pajero tonka body for 290K is a steal talaga...

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    Revo! IMHO mas safe pa rin ang orig LHD kesa converted.

    sa 500K mo makakakuha ka na ng lokal na 2nd Gen Pajero.

  6. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by kimpOy View Post
    went to the last auction at subic last month...exceeds at auction at 290K to 320K...

    cons
    quality of the convertion
    aircon
    detail detail detail
    chop chop dash (karamihan)

    pros
    a pajero tonka body for 290K is a steal talaga...
    no kidding po sir kimpOy? ang mura po ata nila ngayon ah... we used to go there and ranges are from 350-450K... for exceed models... v44 po na ba yan sila? ano po bang auction ka galing?

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    baka AIA or ung united....magaganda pa dun ang units...pero kung sa subic dun ka sa importers, ang dinadala sa auction kasi un ang pinagpiliian na ng mga dealers...

    maslalo sa malinta, class b-c ang mga nandun..needle-in-a-haystack ang class-a

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    hehe...Oo nga "needle-in-a-haystack ang class-a", peru mas mura sa Malinta. kaya dapat marunong kang maghanap dun. naalala ko tuloy ang daming tambak na carstereo sa office nila...

    peru nakaka bigla din ton'g bagsak presyo ah.. kahit Malinta pa yan, mura na rin... basta v44 exceeds.

  9. Join Date
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    Mag local ka bro. Kahit laspag na local mas madali kalikutin kesa sa mukang sariwa na galing subic. Sa 400k may 96-97 ka na local. Hanap ka sa bulletin.

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    revo ka na lang, or better yet, scout for local pajero. kasya na ata sa budget mo.mahirap na converted. yung tita ng girlfriend ko, kumuha din ng subic ( delica nga lang) andaming naging problema, from the steering, suspension, bati turbo busted. pinaayos nang pinaayos til they finally gave up. bumili na lang ng brand new na crosswind.

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    kahit anupaman ang balak mong bilhin, just make sure to tug along a very good mechanic para di ka magastusan masyado. have a careful inspection of the unit, scrutinize closely at huwag magmamadali. tama ka, sit back, relax, contemplate on the comments given here and there before you decide.

    satisfied jdm user ako for about 3 years now and no major problems so far. i'd been to a lot of trips to the north and back to manila and i'll tell you, iba ang mabigat na sasakyan, masarap siyang i-biyahe lalo na pangmalayuan. MALAKI ANG DIPERENSIYA driving an SUV COMPARED TO AN AUV. MALAKI as in MALAKI, maniwala ka kahit ano pa man ang sabihin ng iba.

    safety? dala ka magaling na mekaniko. lahat ng tao siyempre gusto SAFETY first. focus on the critical issues of conversion in case you're leaning on the subic units. they are SUV's at makakapal ang kaha nila at pang-matagalan talaga. so kung solved na ang conversion issues, ok ka na. contact the pajero expert - joseph atutubo, himself a pajero user - he knows the ride well.

    the revo is an AUV class, reliable din, it's all up to you. for me, i'll go with the pajero.

    peace man. enjoy!!!!!

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    I'd stay away from subic-Pajeros. Just aesthetically speaking, I can always tell (9.9 out of 10) if a Pajero is local or from subic. In short, for me and some people lang ha, it kinda looks cheap/TH. Just my opinion.

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    Local ka nalang baka maputulan ka pa ghia!

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    IMHO, sa local na lang po.

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    Delikado daw ang converted. Come to think of it, yun ngang mga local jeeps natin binubuo ng walang engineering and research. Tansi tansi lang ang gamit pag nag assemble e wala namang masamang nangyayari. Buong sasakyan pa ang ginagawa ha. Pati bus satin karamihan dyan converted. Siguro roughly 80% ng tao sa phillipines dyan sumasakay. Kung delikado yan e sana wala na mga yan. Samantalang converted pajeros e yun lang namang steering ang major na nagalaw. Meron pang exact locations na kung saan ibo-bolt ang gearbox and everything underneath.

    Para naman dun sa ang tingin sa mga naka ex jdm cars ay cheap. Tama, cheap nga ang pagkakabili, pero mas matibay ang mga ito at mas tatagal. Nakakita ka na ba ng galing japan na merong undercoat? Wala. Hindi uso undercoat duon. Body color ang pang ilalim ng lahat ng auto nila Nakakita ka na ba ng galing japan na kinakalawang? very rare. Nakakita kana ba ng kupas na kupas na pintura from imports? bihira. E extreme pa ang weather condition sa japan. Matindi acid rain dun. To think na karamihan nito ay from 1990-1995 pa. Subjective nalang yung mga nagsasabi na cheap looking ang mga ito. Japan po ito sir. Karamihan nga ng mapopormang naka honda halos palitan nila ng jdm parts ang mga nabili nilang car para gumanda. Cheap ba yun?

    Wala namang problema kung revo kunin mo. Ok naman yun, Less hassle pa kung maayos ang makukuha mo at wala ka ng iisiping baka nga delikado ang converted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry View Post
    I'd stay away from subic-Pajeros. Just aesthetically speaking, I can always tell (9.9 out of 10) if a Pajero is local or from subic. In short, for me and some people lang ha, it kinda looks cheap/TH. Just my opinion.
    what's the big deal in identifying a subic pajero on the road? or a local one? or any cheap looking or TH ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry View Post
    I'd stay away from subic-Pajeros. Just aesthetically speaking, I can always tell (9.9 out of 10) if a Pajero is local or from subic. In short, for me and some people lang ha, it kinda looks cheap/TH. Just my opinion.
    wow... you have sharp eyes... di ko kasi mapapansin ang kaibahan eh... kung hindi lang sa Plate no. o yung fieldmaster 2800...

    though most subic owners doesn't take care much of their vehicles... kahit man lang decent washing.

  18. Join Date
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    e ano naman kung cheap looking or TH? basta 100% satisfied at masaya ako sa jdm lc80 at pajero ko, kahit ano sabihin nila, that's the only important thing to me.

    a piece of advice, kung sobra pera mo, bili ka na ng brand new. kung kulang, hanap ka ng second hand. kung na-che-cheap-an ka sa SUVics, huwag kang bibili at mag-local second hand ka. kung nagtitipid ka talaga, take lrt, mrt, bus, jeepney or tricycle. kung gusto mo pang maging fit, mag-bike ka na lang. this means, it's all up to you. you can have a reliable subic ride kung gusto mo, call joseph for pajero or go to pampanga for the lc. diskarte lang yan kapatid. kung type mo talaga ang revo, e di bilhin mo, reliable din yan. kanya-kanyang preferences.

    at kung cheap talaga ang tingin nila sa mga SUVics, i suggest that they don't look at them. wag nang pakatitigan. but i guess people just can't take their eyes off them, huh. super mura kasi tapos japan specs pa, saan ka pa?

    at huwag masyado maniniwala sa mga baseless opinions, each has got a different one. see for yourself and scrutinize closely. clear any pre-conceived ideas about jdm's, ask current owners and they will tell you from their first hand experiences. as i mentioned earlier, huwag magmamadali sa pagbili, browse more and i suggest you call joseph (there's a thread here - pajero expert) and ask him, he will tell you a very reliable info about jdm's. then you will realize. then your eyes will be opened. then you can decide. then you can smile at all the people around you. then you will live happily ever after, like in the movies, he he he.

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    How much na ba ang subic Pajero ngaun?. We have a plan to buy kasi, Pajero naman para masubukan ko naman compare sa bighorn ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rion View Post
    wow... you have sharp eyes... di ko kasi mapapansin ang kaibahan eh... kung hindi lang sa Plate no. o yung fieldmaster 2800...

    though most subic owners doesn't take care much of their vehicles... kahit man lang decent washing.
    hahaha me too... alam ko difference ng subic sa local sa imported montero...
    I think you know how to discern when you own one....

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