Casa vs Talyer (for PMS)

[Lithium]

Yes sir. Where's a good place to have PMS that's not casa?

[dr. d]

Yes sir. Where's a good place to have PMS that's not casa?

i have been having my oil change for my 2003 altis at the friendly gas station for several years now. the petron here has hecho derecho oil + filter change for less than 2500 thousand bucks. walang pila.
every 5000 km. mineral oil. just be sure your oil specification requirements are met.
for sparking plugs, brakes and others, sa banawe QC.
for body repair, to my suki in cubao.
for tires, sa yokohama atbp tire outlet. canvas by phone for better prices.

for timing belt and other sensitive piyezas, balik-toyota ako.

puede rin naman sa casa. you just have to to learn to say no to some items that are not in the owner's manual schedule. "next time na lang. wala sa budget, eh."

[leonleon]

puede rin naman sa casa. you just have to to learn to say no to some items that are not in the owner's manual schedule. "next time na lang. wala sa budget, eh."

Problema, doc, eh di na nila sinasabi na may "insertions".

Sasabihin na lang total PMS bill is 7k ++.

Naksingit na pala yung 1) Fushing and 2) injector cleaning.

Nagtaka tuloy ako bakit ang taas ng presyo.

At yun doon pa lang nila pinapakita na meron 2 extras.

Sabi ko yung basic lang, paki alis na lang yung 2 extra.

Ayun, 3k++ na lang.

So lesson is be alert and mabusisi and knowledgeable about what is needed to be done to your vehicle, kasi tuso ng mga SA's di na nila sasabihin at papakita na may inserted services sila.

Kung makakalusot nga naman, di ba?

Back in the 90's unheard yan ganyang practice of inserting unnecessary services.

Ngayon talamak na at pakapalan ng mukha.

Parang mg tongressmen, inserting pork barrel in the budget, kahit bawal.

[jigeloh]

Problema, doc, eh di na nila sinasabi na may "insertions".

Sasabihin na lang total PMS bill is 7k ++.

Naksingit na pala yung 1) Fushing and 2) injector cleaning.

Nagtaka tuloy ako bakit ang taas ng presyo.

At yun doon pa lang nila pinapakita na meron 2 extras.

Sabi ko yung basic lang, paki alis na lang yung 2 extra.

Ayun, 3k++ na lang.

So lesson is be alert and mabusisi and knowledgeable about what is needed to be done to your vehicle, kasi tuso ng mga SA's di na nila sasabihin at papakita na may inserted services sila.

Kung makakalusot nga naman, di ba?

Back in the 90's unheard yan ganyang practice of inserting unnecessary services.

Ngayon talamak na at pakapalan ng mukha.

Parang mg tongressmen, inserting pork barrel in the budget, kahit bawal.

Well Tama ka, last pms ko sa San Fernando Pampanga, sinabi ko SA na tanggalin mga optional. So akala ko tinanggal na. Lo and behold buti nalang tinignan ko mga gagawin, meron flushing at treatment na nakasingit. Sinabi ko na tanggalin. Palusot Ng SA buti nalang sinabi ko.

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[shadow]

Problema, doc, eh di na nila sinasabi na may "insertions".

Sasabihin na lang total PMS bill is 7k ++.

Naksingit na pala yung 1) Fushing and 2) injector cleaning.

Nagtaka tuloy ako bakit ang taas ng presyo.

At yun doon pa lang nila pinapakita na meron 2 extras.

Sabi ko yung basic lang, paki alis na lang yung 2 extra.

Ayun, 3k++ na lang.

So lesson is be alert and mabusisi and knowledgeable about what is needed to be done to your vehicle, kasi tuso ng mga SA's di na nila sasabihin at papakita na may inserted services sila.

Kung makakalusot nga naman, di ba?

Back in the 90's unheard yan ganyang practice of inserting unnecessary services.

Ngayon talamak na at pakapalan ng mukha.

Parang mg tongressmen, inserting pork barrel in the budget, kahit bawal.

Then lumipat ka na ng ibang casa pag ganyan. Pinapakita dapat breakdown before umpisahan or complain mo yun SA na gumawa sayo nun


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[StockEngine]

Yes sir. Where's a good place to have PMS that's not casa?

Toyota has promos naman.. oil changes are cheaper. 999-1999 or so..


Motech many locations..
Speedyfix san juan..

Even shell ...


There are other shops but their pricing is abit higher.

[papi smith]

Ilang percent kaya ng cost ng insertions ang commission ng SA? And are they also being rated based on how much they sell of these add ons.

[shadow]

Pinapakita naman breakdown before gawin ah.


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[dr. d]

Pinapakita naman breakdown before gawin ah.


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i consult my owner's manual, and list down what should be included in the xxx km pms.
if an item in their proposed pms job list is not in that list, i decline with "next time na lang. wala sa budget, e".
we should always look at that job list. insertions are not unique to congress.
heh heh.

common words that should grab our attention include: treatment, flushing, conditioner.

[papi smith]

Pinapakita naman breakdown before gawin ah.


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Kung hihingin mo, otherwise, sa billing na diretso nun. Naalala ko ung katabi ko, Honda City, sabi ng SA, 10k daw, Ang sagot nya, gano katagal daw at nagmamadali siya, pipilitin daw ni SA matapos agad, end of discussion. I guess, the company was paying for the maintenance, kaya walang pakialam si customer, or he is rich and doesn't care.

[dr. d]

Kung hihingin mo, otherwise, sa billing na diretso nun. Naalala ko ung katabi ko, Honda City, sabi ng SA, 10k daw, Ang sagot nya, gano katagal daw at nagmamadali siya, pipilitin daw ni SA matapos agad, end of discussion. I guess, the company was paying for the maintenance, kaya walang pakialam si customer, or he is rich and doesn't care.

pues, hingin nyo!
in the casa pms i go to, they always show us the printed proposed job list, for written approval. but they do not elaborate if costumer does not ask.
but i think the issue is, many of these folks do not know that many of those in the job list are optionals only and can be canceled. thus, they do not bother with perusing the list anymore, because "casa knows best".
enlightenment comes afterward. the so-called "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me", when car owner chances to read the owner's manual in depth, or he accidentally tunes into tsikot.com...

[chrijdaq]

pues, hingin nyo!
in the casa pms i go to, they always show us the printed proposed job list, for written approval. but they do not elaborate if costumer does not ask.
but i think the issue is, many of these folks do not know that many of those in the job list are optionals only and can be canceled. thus, they do not bother with perusing the list anymore, because "casa knows best".
enlightenment comes afterward. the so-called "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me", when car owner chances to read the owner's manual in depth, or he accidentally tunes into tsikot.com...

Usually naman may quote diba? Kailangan lang tingnan yung items listed there... Yung iba na questionable, pwede namna itanong and ipa tanggal.

[Lithium]

What's a good brand of spark plug and FS oil. Where can I buy? Also, where can I buy baldwin oil filter?

[dr. d]

my one peso's worth,
i don't FS.
mineral only.
replace every 5000 km, without fail.
after over 14 years and 130,000 km, the engine still runs fine.

[Lithium]

my one peso's worth,
i don't FS.
mineral only.
replace every 5000 km, without fail.
after over 14 years and 130,000 km, the engine still runs fine.

Its always been FS for me. 5k PMS religiously as well but mostly it takes more than 1 year for us to reach 5k.

[dr. d]

Its always been FS for me. 5k PMS religiously as well but mostly it takes more than 1 year for us to reach 5k.

yep, that's us!
5000 km or 6 months, whichever comes last.
heh heh.