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    #1261
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it's in liters per 100 km.
    5.6 li/100 km translates to 17.85 km/li.

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    Wow. That's good right?

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    #1262
    Quote Originally Posted by tsik_r2d2 View Post
    Wow. That's good right?
    well, it approaches my wigo's real-world highway figures.

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    #1263
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    Baka loaded kayo? Medyo mababa fc mo bro[emoji848]

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    6.8L/100 km is 14.7 km/L
    5.6L/100 km as in the pic is 17.9 km/L

    That's about right for a tall van with a 4AT on the rolling hills of SCTEX. Even my Vios before had similar numbers on SCTEX.

    What FC figure did you have in mind?

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    #1264
    Quote Originally Posted by TheUninvited View Post
    Diba 100 lang max sa SCTEX?
    They tolerate 120.

    I've done it several times with my cruise control set at 120 right in front of the speed gun. Hindi naman ako hinuli.

    120 kph on my speedometer is 118 kph on my GPS.

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    #1265
    they probably dial in, the speed gun's 10% probability of error, "plus a bit more, for argument's case".
    maybe at 121 kph, their alarms will go off.

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    #1266
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    they probably dial in, the speed gun's 10% probability of error, "plus a bit more, for argument's case".
    maybe at 121 kph, their alarms will go off.
    Have also done 121kph without an apprehension.

    I've seen several times though people that go slightly faster than me at 120 (so maybe 125-135) who get caught at the toll gate.

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    #1267
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Have also done 121kph without an apprehension.

    I've seen several times though people that go slightly faster than me at 120 (so maybe 125-135) who get caught at the toll gate.

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    your speedo's 121 is probably their speed gun's 119. or your gps's 119.
    but we get the idea.

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    #1268
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    your 121 is probably their 119. or your gps's 119.
    but we get the idea.
    Yup. 120 in my GPS is 123 on the speedometer. When I had smaller tires it was 126 on the speedometer.

    Which is perfectly normal and falls within the usual 5% allowance that manufacturers have built in.

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    #1269
    ^^^ NLEX-SCTEX enforcers informed me before that they tolerate folks running up to 120 kmh (based on their speed guns). Go much faster and you got tagged by their speed enforcers, then you get a speeding ticket. If you're not tagged speeding thru some portions of NLEX-SCTEX, then you're OK.

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    #1270
    Quote Originally Posted by promdiboy View Post
    did a 150km drive via sctex Clark to subic balikan.

    fc meter average is 6.8 liters per 100kms.

    cruise control at 105 kph all the way. pag may incline di niya kaya maintain 4th gear. Kaya siguro tumaas fc.

    got the unit nung June 6.
    As compared with the Avanza / Rush, the Avanza goes 3K RPM on a 100kph speed, while the Xpander is at 2.5K RPM on a 100kph speed. This is why the Xpander is more economical than the Avanza / Rush on a cruising speed. Other factors could also be are: Weight, Drive train and Aerodynamics.

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    #1271
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well, it approaches my wigo's real-world highway figures.
    If a bigger car approach a tiny cars fuel consumption figure then it must be very good

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    #1272
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    why would the designers do that?
    it seems illogical.

    Speedometers are calibrated slightly faster ... Primarily to avoid lawsuits stemming from over speeding tickets ...

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    #1273
    Very decent fuel consumption. It's the Mivec engine design perhaps.


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    #1274
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Speedometers are calibrated slightly faster ... Primarily to avoid lawsuits stemming from over speeding tickets ...
    Speedometers are calibrated to a specific wheel diameter to save on manufacturing cost

    Difference in actual speedometer reading is brought about by the various wheel diameters attached to the car

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    #1275
    Some gentleman posted this from Rush Forum. Quoting for reference. TOYOTA RUSH FC FIGURES

    Going to Bolinao
    - Route: EDSA, NLEX, SCTEX, Exit at Paniqui, National Roads going to Bolinao (Camiling, Romulo Hiway, Tarlac-Pangasinan Rd, Olongapo-Bugallon Rd)
    - Encountered traffic at NLEX (road repairs, accidents)
    - Encountered usual provincial road traffic (mostly trikes)
    - Distance Traveled: Approx. 300 kms
    - Travel time: 6am to 3pm
    - Average speed (NLEX, SCTEX, TPLEX) - 100kph to 110 kph, 120 kph when overtaking (based on dashboard speedo, waze gps speedo)
    - Average FC: 12 km/l

    Going Back to Manila:
    - Bolinao to Alaminos via National Roads, Alaminos to Dagupan via National Roads, TPLEX via Binalonan on ramp, SCTEX, NLEX, EDSA
    - Encountered traffic at provincial roads (mostly trikes)
    - Slowdown of traffic/driving speed due to heavy downpour (between 7PM to 8PM)
    - Distance Traveled: Approx. 320 kms
    - Travel Time: 6pm to 12mn
    - Average speed (TPLEX, SCTEX, NLEX) - 110 kph to 120 kph, 130~135 kph when overtaking (based on dashboard speedo, waze gps speedo)
    - Average FC: 15.5 km/l

    Notes:
    - Passengers: 3 (including driver) plus 4 days worth of luggage
    - Fuel used: Shell Fuelsave
    - Since it is still break-in period, i made sure to progressively step on the pedal to achieve cruising speed
    - Transmission: I only utilized D (drive) during the entire travel. I did not use 3, 2 yet to manage engine revs/ for overtaking/ascents
    - Given: flooring the gas pedal to overtake pesky trikes

    Observations:
    - As predicted, ride is a bit bumpy based on the setup of the Rush
    - Initial movement (1st Gear) is slow but once you get going, it is alright
    - 3K RPM at 100 kph cruising speed, 4K RPM at 120 kph cruising speed. For me, the engine noise during this speed is not really too manic/loud
    - Additional power readily available beyond 4K RPM. Was able to hit 130~135 kph while overtaking (based on dashboard speedo, waze gps speedo)
    - We did not have any issues with the twisties section of the route (mostly between Bolinao - Alaminos)
    It's not bad, is it? But from the previous posts of the Xpander owners, I still think the Xpander still has the edge on FC.

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    #1276
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    6.8L/100 km is 14.7 km/L
    5.6L/100 km as in the pic is 17.9 km/L

    That's about right for a tall van with a 4AT on the rolling hills of SCTEX. Even my Vios before had similar numbers on SCTEX.

    What FC figure did you have in mind?

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    Per 100km /liter pala.. Hehe

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    #1277
    May display unit here at Citimotors Las Pinas..Red Xpander.

    Looks like a baby montero

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    #1278
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    Per 100km /liter pala.. Hehe

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    Basahin mo muna kasi maigi. Baka wala ng bumili nyan kung dimo idivide per 100km yan. Ano yan malakas pa kaysa sa V8?

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    #1279
    Quote Originally Posted by hilikus View Post
    Basahin mo muna kasi maigi. Baka wala ng bumili nyan kung dimo idivide per 100km yan. Ano yan malakas pa kaysa sa V8?
    Epal naman eto 🤤🤤

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    #1280
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    If a bigger car approach a tiny cars fuel consumption figure then it must be very good

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    diba malakas naman talaga sa gas ang wigo (AT)

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