All new Mitsubishi Expander MPV!

**satori-san** · March 20th, 2018 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

what overdrive? you mean 4th gear is the overdrive

ok na yang 4spd slushbox. you can't sell a car like this for 900k if it has a sophisticated transmission

"Xpander automatic transmission lever is already wrapped in leather, while the manual version is normal. Please note, Xpander manual gearboxes have reverse gear that is somewhat different from most Japanese cars, because to get back gear gear should be passed to the left front. 5 speed manual transmission, while the automatic 4 speed with OVERDRIVE button."

http://www.updetails.com/2017/11/fir...itsubishi.html

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**Egan101** · March 20th, 2018 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

what overdrive? you mean 4th gear is the overdrive

ok na yang 4spd slushbox. you can't sell a car like this for 900k if it has a sophisticated transmission

Well, you can but reliability is suspect. You can buy the Ecosport with its dry-clutch DCT but we all know it didn't work well with a few owners.

I wonder why Mitsubishi still have to market the Expander with an archaic 4-speed auto. It's so 90s. My old 2002 Exalta had a 4AT tranny with overdrive and many say Nissan should have opted for a 5AT. Will adding an additional gear be that expensive?

**chronicle** · March 20th, 2018 03:29 PM

Well. Kagaya sa vios, ilalagay nila as upgrade ang cvt transmission down the line. They just want to capture the market with it's low price first.

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**GTcervan** · March 20th, 2018 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

I wonder why Mitsubishi still have to market the Expander with an archaic 4-speed auto. It's so 90s. My old 2002 Exalta had a 4AT tranny with overdrive and many say Nissan should have opted for a 5AT. Will adding an additional gear be that expensive?

I have the same thought in my mind.

**ray_noel** · March 20th, 2018 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by chronicle

Well. Kagaya sa vios, ilalagay nila as upgrade ang cvt transmission down the line. They just want to capture the market with it's low price first.

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Exactly...
The usual marketing... para mas value yung price increase nila sa facelift or all new xpander in the future...

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**Egan101** · March 20th, 2018 03:37 PM

I wonder why Mitsu didn't just come up with an extended wheelbase of the ASX and added a 3rd row. At least, you get a peppier engine and its CVT tranny. That 2.0L NA engine and CVT tranny stood the test of time with the Lancer (2008-2017).

Maybe that would be more expensive...

**Vodka** · March 20th, 2018 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by satori-san

"Xpander automatic transmission lever is already wrapped in leather, while the manual version is normal. Please note, Xpander manual gearboxes have reverse gear that is somewhat different from most Japanese cars, because to get back gear gear should be passed to the left front. 5 speed manual transmission, while the automatic 4 speed with OVERDRIVE button."

http://www.updetails.com/2017/11/fir...itsubishi.html

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LOL i don't think you know what overdrive means

4th gear is already your overdrive gear. OD button lang yan i.e. on/off. not an additional gear. or else that would be a 5spd already

Originally Posted by Egan101

Well, you can but reliability is suspect. You can buy the Ecosport with its dry-clutch DCT but we all know it didn't work well with a few owners.

I wonder why Mitsubishi still have to market the Expander with an archaic 4-speed auto. It's so 90s. My old 2002 Exalta had a 4AT tranny with overdrive and many say Nissan should have opted for a 5AT. Will adding an additional gear be that expensive?

oh i meant a larger vehicle like Xpander. a more sophisticated tranny would definitely increase the price

i'm not sure. maybe it's the economies of scale. perhaps 4spd trannies are now super cheap.

another factor is product positioning. you shouldn't make the xpander better than it has to be

so they had to cripple it somehow especially that the main competition (toyota) is also using 4spd

**GTcervan** · March 20th, 2018 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by ray_noel

Exactly...
The usual marketing... para mas value yung price increase nila sa facelift or all new xpander in the future...

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Pero lugi naman yung makakakuha ng original units. Mas bababa yung resale value ng units nila once they plan to sell theirs after some time.

**Egan101** · March 20th, 2018 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

another factor is product positioning. you can't make the xpander too good

so they had to cripple it somehow especially that the main competition (toyota) is also using 4spd

Why market a horse when you can sell a cow to counter a carabao? Hahaha... Business is good.

**satori-san** · March 20th, 2018 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

LOL i don't think you know what overdrive means

4th gear is already your overdrive gear. OD button lang yan i.e. on/off. not an additional gear. or else that would be a 5spd already

oh i meant a larger vehicle like Xpander. a more sophisticated tranny would definitely increase the price

i'm not sure. maybe it's the economies of scale. perhaps 4spd trannies are now super cheap.

another factor is product positioning. you shouldn't make the xpander better than it has to be

so they had to cripple it somehow especially that the main competition (toyota) is also using 4spd

So what overdrive means to you then?hahaha..