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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    Anyone test driven the Xpander with 2, 4 pax and at full capacity? Really curious how a 1.5L can haul that much.
    whats your current ride?

    the 1.5xpander is the best in class. torq and hp are achieved at lower rpms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    whats your current ride?

    the 1.5xpander is the best in class. torq and hp are achieved at lower rpms...

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    I wouldn't call 105hp/141Nm as best in class. That's about the same as the Vios/Avanza engine.
    Last edited by Egan101; March 22nd, 2018 at 03:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    I wouldn't call 105hp/141Nm as best in class. That's about the same as the Vios/Avanza engine.
    the numbers are achieved at lower rpms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    the numbers are achieved at lower rpms...

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    The Expander has the Mitsu 4A91 engine unless it was tuned differently. With those figures, at what rpm are they rated? I bet it's peak power at 6k rpm and peak torque at 4k rpm. Rarely will you find someone who would push their rides on a day to day basis to the 4k-6k rpm range.

    Just to be fair, performance of the Expander will be most likely within the Avanza category. It's enough to ferry people around at an acceptable pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    Anyone test driven the Xpander with 2, 4 pax and at full capacity? Really curious how a 1.5L can haul that much.
    With a gas engine that has that amount of displacement, when fully loaded, you'll feel that the engine is stressed or tries to put effort to get the load moving.

    Experienced that with our city vx that has 1.5 gas engine. Pansin ko if the driver's alone or has 2 passengers, then it feels punchy or zippy from a stop. However, when it is filled with five adults, then it will feel somewhat lethargic from a full stop. Malamang ganyan din sa xpander, lalo na kung a/t.

    This may be the effect of the weight on the engine eh hindi naman crdi turbo yan kaya you wouldn't feel the torque that much when fully loaded, unlike pag crdi there is abundance of torque at low rpms kaya hindi basta ramdam na stressed ang engine in that case.

    In other words, kaya ng xpander siguro ang full load but don't expect it to be responsive pag galing ka sa full stop kung puno yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    With a gas engine that has that amount of displacement, when fully loaded, you'll feel that the engine is stressed or tries to put effort to get the load moving.

    Experienced that with our city vx that has 1.5 gas engine. Pansin ko if the driver's alone or has 2 passengers, then it feels punchy or zippy from a stop. However, when it is filled with five adults, then it will feel somewhat lethargic from a full stop. Malamang ganyan din sa xpander, lalo na kung a/t.

    This may be the effect of the weight on the engine eh hindi naman crdi turbo yan kaya you wouldn't feel the torque that much when fully loaded, unlike pag crdi there is abundance of torque at low rpms kaya hindi basta ramdam na stressed ang engine in that case.

    In other words, kaya ng xpander siguro ang full load but don't expect it to be responsive pag galing ka sa full stop kung puno yan.
    Yung tricycle nga na nakita ko walo ang sakay uphill pa..hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by satori-san View Post
    Yung tricycle nga na nakita ko walo ang sakay uphill pa..hahahaha
    Baka naman tinulak pa yan habang paakyat. 😂 😂 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Baka naman tinulak pa yan habang paakyat. 😂 😂 😂
    Hindi naman umaandar eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    Anyone test driven the Xpander with 2, 4 pax and at full capacity? Really curious how a 1.5L can haul that much.

    It's the same as how the Honda BR-V, Toyota Avanza and Suzuki Ertiga manages to do that ... just look at how the 1.5 liter engine is fitted in the latest Honda Accord ...

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    Tricycles here can haul 8 people uphill ... at crawling speed ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Tricycles here can haul 8 people uphill ... at crawling speed ...
    Just like the Wigo..

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    it's because the passengers are cooperative.
    pag medyo hirap na, they just alight and help push 'er.

    bayanihan at its best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    It's the same as how the Honda BR-V, Toyota Avanza and Suzuki Ertiga manages to do that ... just look at how the 1.5 liter engine is fitted in the latest Honda Accord ...
    That 1.5L on the new Accord is turbocharged, the same engine as the Civic RS but tuned at 190+ hp. It is not the usual anaemic 1.5L NA engines used on subcompacts and small crossovers/MPVs.

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    Pero namamarket nga ang mobilio, brv, avanza, ertiga as a 7 seater. So probabably same performance sila kapag loaded na.

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    Eto ba official specs ng engine ni xpander?

    16-valve engine which gives a maximum output of 105 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and a maximum torque of 141Nm at 4,000rpm

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    Would be a good replacement for my old FD 1.8L gas guzzler. I have a Mu-X daily driver but the wife finds it a hassle to drive in the city with the size. Added ground clearance is a plus, and the flat folding cargo is very useful for groceries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    Would be a good replacement for my old FD 1.8L gas guzzler. I have a Mu-X daily driver but the wife finds it too heavy to steer and maneuver. Added ground clearance is a plus, and the flat folding cargo is very useful for groceries.

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    tes drive bro

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    Panalo price ng rush.
    Panalo consumer.

    Tapos E variant pa ang base model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Panalo price ng rush.
    Panalo consumer.

    Tapos E variant pa ang base model.

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    Di pa daw official yung prices eh, ok kung ganyan yang presyo. Talagang pigaan MPV segment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satori-san View Post
    Di pa daw official yung prices eh, ok kung ganyan yang presyo. Talagang pigaan MPV segment.
    So pinipigilan lang nila may magpareserve sa xpander??

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