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  1. Join Date
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    Guys, I am in the process of buying a GLS sport adventure within the next two weeks. however, I am still double-minded on whether I will get the gas version or the diesel version. The gas version is 775,000 and the diesel version is just 10,000 pesos more.

    Diesel mileage looks very good (11-13 km/liter). Gas mileage according to most Macoys is bad (7-9 km/liter). So far, nobody has discussed over-all maintenance cost comparison between D and G.

    The gas version uses the Galant 2.0L engine thus a more car-like performance is expected here.

    Also, I would like to know if the Mitsu diesel engine is noisy, "mausok" and ma-vibrate. Is the noise, usok and vibration tolerable with the diesel version?

    Mga Macoys, I would really appreciate if you can share your experiences with your Adventure and help out a fellow-tsikoteer and a future Macoy like me. Thanks very much.

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    sa mahal ng gas ngayon, diesel na.

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    Gasoline Adventures have the advantage of lower retail price, lighter weight and higher acceleration. But diesel Adventures have more pull, more durable engines, less parts to replace and (relatively) cheaper fuel.

    As far as noise and vibration are concerned, rest assured that the diesel-powered Adventures are very much tolerable. I myself drive a diesel Adventure. If it's of any help, an officemate of mine got to ride in it, at bilib na bilib siya sa quietness ng makina. Parang hindi raw diesel.

    As for smoke, I believe that the Adventure units from 2004 onward are already Euro compliant in terms of emissions. Tsaka basta religious ang maintenance schedule mo, ayos lang ang buga.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; August 12th, 2005 at 04:13 PM.

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    thanks, happy gilmore and bogeyman. I really appreciate your inputs. mukhang mananalo ang diesel dito.... =)

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    keep those inputs coming...

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    Also, since the 4D56 diesel engine has been in use from way back, a lot of mechanics are already familiar with it. And parts are readily available, too.

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    The reason why I chose the diesel version is because of the reason why I got the adventure in the first place, to carry stuff and people around. Fuel savings and maintenance are a close second.

    I am not convinced of the carrying and pulling power of the gas version. In the long run, baka uusok at masira yan.

    In terms of vibrations, the 4d56 has the least amount of vibrations compared to the other diesel auvs, with the hilander being the shakiest of them all.

    In terms of usok, an ill-maintained 4d56 WILL spew out smoke like a mad angry dragon. (kaya pinagtritripan ng mga MMDA ang mga L300s na di inaalagaan). Take note, poorly maintained. A 4d56 treated with TLC will produce unnoticable smoke and pollution.

    The diesel engine is also easier to maintain, and a lot of mechanics are familiar with the 4d56, as bogeyman stated. It may be and old design dating to the 1980s but it is ONE HECK OF A RELIABLE ENGINE.

    As for floods, diesels are more resilient than gas engines. Part of the advantage of an Adventure is its high ground clearance, and the diesel version is resistant to stalling in floods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler
    As for floods, diesels are more resilient than gas engines. Part of the advantage of an Adventure is its high ground clearance, and the diesel version is resistant to stalling in floods.
    Kaya lang diba nasa ilalim yung alternator natin. What's protecting it from getting wet? Yun ang fear ko when engaging floods.
    Last edited by RafRaf; August 12th, 2005 at 05:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RafRaf
    Kaya lang diba nasa ilalim yung alternator natin. What's protecting it from getting wet? Yun ang fear ko when engaging floods.
    The idea here is avoid flooded roads if possible. But if our rides need to fjord a flooded street, then kaya yan, as long as direcho ang takbo, and we don't stop in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RafRaf
    Kaya lang diba nasa ilalim yung alternator natin. What's protecting it from getting wet? Yun ang fear ko when engaging floods.
    dont worry! taga malabon ako 4 yrs na adv ko so far wala pa ring problema. 143,000.kms na d best among d rest auv"s.

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    SIR EURIE! San po kyo sa malabon taga doon din po ako...???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman
    Also, since the 4D56 diesel engine has been in use from way back, a lot of mechanics are already familiar with it. And parts are readily available, too.

    well said,,, pero and downside nga lang sa 4d56 eh yung horsepower nya medyo huli na saya sa mga rival nya like crosswind at innova.... you must have more patient in accelerating your ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arvic
    downside nga lang sa 4d56 eh yung horsepower nya medyo huli na saya sa mga rival nya like crosswind at innova.... you must have more patient in accelerating your ride.
    Ay, totoo yan. Pero seeing na medyo mahal magpagawa ng makina sa Isuzu, at complicated naman ang D-4D ng Toyota, isipin na lang natin na less is more. ;)

    Tsaka ok lang kung kapos ang acceleration. Ang hindi madadaan sa bilis, daanin sa maniobra.

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    thanks dieseler. mukhang diesel na talaga. good thing di ko pa nabili. sabi ng dealer ko, available immediately daw ang diesel gls sport (color black). excited na ako...

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    Diesel for me if you're after for practical use. :D

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    Acceleration is really the downside for diesel cars in general. But I think most people get the diesel version for the functionality first then the performance second. I agree that toyota and isuzu are ahead with mitsubishi in terms of diesel engine technology but that's outside the topic. thanks for your comments, guys !!!

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    Get the diesel one, pangharabas talaga!!! wag kana mag gas mahal na ng gas chaka mas matakaw at uhaw uminom yun!!! about sa maintenance i don't think na mas mahal to since 4d56 yan dae parts... pre kay suzet kana kumuha ng unit!!!

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    really depends on your plan of use for the vehicle.

    kung hindi ka namn parati hahatak ng kargada sa likod mostly pang pamilya city and highway, I would suggest na gas version na lang.

    gas mas tahimik yung makina, at mas malakas yung arangkada. di ka mabibitin kung oovertake ka.

    diesel matipid pero do not believe the hype na aabot ng more than 10 kms /liter yan very very very VERY rare occassion lang yan.

    in terms of maintenance, mas mahal ang fuel filter ng diesel, pero mas hindi problemado. actually ako lang nag memekaniko nung Adventure namin dati.

    speaking from experience of owning an Adventure for more than 4 yrs.

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    Rediesel, diesel ba yung adventure mo?

    Bakit, most Macoys with diesel adventure are saying at least 10km/liter consumption nila?

    Parang kinakabahan kse ako sa gas na 7-9 km/liter lang . Mabubutas bulsa ko dyan....

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    sir, it really depends. kung ako, i'll get the diesel kung efficiency ang pag-uusapan. i've driven the adventure diesel. its good, but it takes time getting used to.


    on fuel consumption, nasa driving style yan. if you want to save some fuel, be prepared to change your driving style. or part with your hard earned cash.
    Last edited by ian_rex; August 13th, 2005 at 09:32 AM.

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