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    #1361
    Quote Originally Posted by coqueiro View Post
    Rear fog lamps are standard in all European cars. Supposedly it has the same intensity as the brake lights so it shouldn't blind you any more than the brake lights. It's similar to having fog lamps. Do we really need fog lamps?

    The other aspect to it is having the European look.
    fyi lang and medyo off-topic: i went to some european countries recently and, at least from my experience, konti lang have rear fogs. just want to correct the misconception that it's standard in european cars.

    at the same time, my rover (range rover) is actually eudm that we imported here and it did not come stock with rear fog lights. the other rover in the family (discovery), also imported from the UK, did not come stock with rear fogs.

    again, fyi lang...

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    #1362
    Quote Originally Posted by smooth View Post
    fyi lang and medyo off-topic: i went to some european countries recently and, at least from my experience, konti lang have rear fogs. just want to correct the misconception that it's standard in european cars.

    at the same time, my rover (range rover) is actually eudm that we imported here and it did not come stock with rear fog lights. the other rover in the family (discovery), also imported from the UK, did not come stock with rear fogs.

    again, fyi lang...
    It's not a misconception that it's a standard for European cars to have rear fog lights installed because it is a standard as set by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) Vehicle Regulations.

    And as per UNECE Regulation 38, rear fog lamps are required in all European cars.


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    #1363
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Pila talaga yung GTV hanggang ngayon wala pa order ko, pero sabi ng mga sales lalabas na daw 2012 Montero, ceiling mounted na daw yung aircon sa likod

    sir ano pa daw mga changes sa 2012 gtv? yun 2011 GTV sa side yun aircon sa likod kaya nag moist yun salamin sa likod.

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    #1364
    Sir may changes pa kaya iba aside sa aircon?

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    #1365
    Quote Originally Posted by smooth View Post
    fyi lang and medyo off-topic: i went to some european countries recently and, at least from my experience, konti lang have rear fogs. just want to correct the misconception that it's standard in european cars.

    at the same time, my rover (range rover) is actually eudm that we imported here and it did not come stock with rear fog lights. the other rover in the family (discovery), also imported from the UK, did not come stock with rear fogs.

    again, fyi lang...


    Quote Originally Posted by coqueiro View Post
    It's not a misconception that it's a standard for European cars to have rear fog lights installed because it is a standard as set by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) Vehicle Regulations.

    And as per UNECE Regulation 38, rear fog lamps are required in all European cars.

    Back to regular programming mga sir..

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    #1366
    some monty variants have the rear fog lamps, other monty variants do not

    some owners want to have the rear foglamps, others are content with none

    its all a matter of personal preference

    to each his own as a vehicle is oftentimes an extension of one's personality and taste


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    #1367
    for the life of me, i can't believe a UN resolution is being quoted. UN? hahaha LOL.. seriously?

    curiously, what will the UN do if a vehicle manufacturer doesn't comply? ask the US to invade the country a la searching for WMD's?

    tough enough getting a resolution thru the european union, but the UN? LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth View Post
    for the life of me, i can't believe a UN resolution is being quoted. UN? hahaha LOL.. seriously?

    curiously, what will the UN do if a vehicle manufacturer doesn't comply? ask the US to invade the country a la searching for WMD's?

    tough enough getting a resolution thru the european union, but the UN? LOL...
    I honestly don't know how to answer your question about the UN asking the US to invade the country. That's pretty far-fetched, don't you think? I honestly think it's ridiculous really.

    You said rear fog lamps are not standard and I just pointed out that they are standard as set by the UNECE. Unless of course you know of anything that proves otherwise?

    Going back on topic:
    Like the previous post, it's all a matter of preference. I prefer it.


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    #1369
    Quote Originally Posted by coqueiro View Post
    I honestly don't know how to answer your question about the UN asking the US to invade the country. That's pretty far-fetched, don't you think? I honestly think it's ridiculous really.

    You said rear fog lamps are not standard and I just pointed out that they are standard as set by the UNECE. Unless of course you know of anything that proves otherwise?

    Going back on topic:
    Like the previous post, it's all a matter of preference. I prefer it.

    sorry about this but seriously, its no more ridiculous than considering that the UN can mandate EU countries to have particular car standards. its probably like having the UN mandate that all cars from asian countries lower their CO2 emissions. how will the UN impose the resolution? my only point is that all you have to do is go to any EU country and see the reality for yourself, and that its nowhere near a standard than just ink on paper. the reality is that i could probably count in the fingers of one hand the cars that had rear fogs when i last visited. ang pagkakaintindi ko kasi sa standard is that it should come stock when you buy a car from the casa. but the reality is that stock cars (in spain, portugal and the UK) don't have them. if that's the case, how can it be a standard?

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    #1370
    makisingit lang ho......magkano pala ang rear fog lamps/lights? dun sa mga nakabili na, paki inform lang naman sa mga tulad ko gusto magkaroon.

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    #1371
    Quote Originally Posted by kutangbato View Post
    makisingit lang ho......magkano pala ang rear fog lamps/lights? dun sa mga nakabili na, paki inform lang naman sa mga tulad ko gusto magkaroon.
    Bought mine at Union Motors Paco. Price is 2,801.20 less 10% discount, so i got it for 2,521.08. Part number is 8337A077. I got it installed by them so that it will not void my warranty. They charged me 1k for the installation plus installing my Bosch Europa horns also

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    #1372
    guys huwag na natin problemahin yang UN na yan hahaha!

    pero standard talaga sa GT-V ang rear fogs sa pagkakaalam ko



    *jodyola13- sir mura na din pala installation parang p500 lang lumabas

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    #1373
    Quote Originally Posted by jodyola13 View Post
    Bought mine at Union Motors Paco. Price is 2,801.20 less 10% discount, so i got it for 2,521.08. Part number is 8337A077. I got it installed by them so that it will not void my warranty. They charged me 1k for the installation plus installing my Bosch Europa horns also
    Pa follow up question:

    After installation,(I'm assuming were both 4x2 GLS-v),

    a. can you use your stock switch to activate the rear fog lamp?
    b. when you activate your rear fog lamp, does the indicator lamp on your dash for "rear Fog lamp" lights up?

    Thanks!

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    #1374
    guys, 2012 montero gtv is coming soon!

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    #1375
    Quote Originally Posted by petixs View Post
    Pa follow up question:

    After installation,(I'm assuming were both 4x2 GLS-v),

    a. can you use your stock switch to activate the rear fog lamp?
    b. when you activate your rear fog lamp, does the indicator lamp on your dash for "rear Fog lamp" lights up?

    Thanks!
    curious lang po, san banda ba nakalagay ang rear fog lamps? can anybody post a photo? thanks.

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    #1376
    Had my 10000km pms yesterday and part of the procedure set by mmpc is to reprogram ecu(egr setting), to address daw the smoke issue. So all 2011 models will undergo the procedure when you go for PMS. nagulat ako kasi top-up lang and cleaning ng brakes ang alam ko gagawin kaya i didnt remove my cr box, good thing wala naman nadiagnosed na meron ako mOdification ginawa. Sabi ko nga waive ko na lang yung procedure kasi happy nako with my gtv on seaoil diesel plus cr box, pero kailangan daw eh. So far okay naman

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    #1377
    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    Had my 10000km pms yesterday and part of the procedure set by mmpc is to reprogram ecu(egr setting), to address daw the smoke issue. So all 2011 models will undergo the procedure when you go for PMS. nagulat ako kasi top-up lang and cleaning ng brakes ang alam ko gagawin kaya i didnt remove my cr box, good thing wala naman nadiagnosed na meron ako mOdification ginawa. Sabi ko nga waive ko na lang yung procedure kasi happy nako with my gtv on seaoil diesel plus cr box, pero kailangan daw eh. So far okay naman
    Which dealer or casa did you have your PMS done sir?

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    #1378
    Quote Originally Posted by lyonell1989 View Post
    guys, 2012 montero gtv is coming soon!
    anong itsura? features?

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    #1379
    Quote Originally Posted by spotdog11 View Post
    Which dealer or casa did you have your PMS done sir?
    Ito ba yung reprogramming ng ECU from Euro4 setting emission to euro 2? Me nag feedback na bumaba daw "pakiramdam " sa power, like driving the non VGT Monty?

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    #1380
    Quote Originally Posted by lyonell1989 View Post
    guys, 2012 montero gtv is coming soon!
    Any pics regarding this 2012 Montero sir hehehe

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