2007 Mitsubishi Pajero (GEN III.5) [continued]

[promdiboy]

symptoms saakin habang steady takbo at 2k rpm. medyo bumababa ng konti kahit steady apak. pero pag binaon mo bibilis naman siya.

[Starex_Gold]

Here you go sir PB

[JR318]

Here you go sir PB

Sir tanong ko lang nka DRL na ba yan?TIA

[Starex_Gold]

Sir tanong ko lang nka DRL na ba yan?TIA

Yes. Dual intensity DRL and also serves as the parklights. The T10 parklights inside the HL are already disabled.

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[benchman]

Here you go sir PB

kagwapo talaga ng white
grats SG!

[SuperQuest]

Hi guys, seeking for some advice and guidance.

My Monty was totalled last month and so its time to shop again. I have always loved the Paj pero out of my price range... but now in a better position to really explore kung talaga its worth it.

I was at the dealer last Saturday and was disappointed when I found out the engine spec was not the same monster in the Australian (among others) version. It was in this thread that more light was shown that a key driver was the quality of our diesels.
It turns out the auto 4x4 Monty has "only" about 32nm less torque but around ~20 horses more. And with the power to weight ratio (Paj is about 300kg heavier from what I read), it seems to be more powerful than the great Pajero, both equipped with what I presume are similar gearboxes.

So my questions are:
- Is the real world (city and hwy) performance of the Paj noticeably less than the GTV?
- Is the refinement and driving dynamics of the Paj worth the ~700k price difference compared to the GTV?
- Why should I really consider the Paj over the GTV? Aside from the Pogi factor which does go a long way.


Appreciate any and all suggestions!

PS: Cant believe this is my first post :D

[promdiboy]

panalo sg!!!


gusto ko ng moonroof

[Starex_Gold]

panalo sg!!!


gusto ko ng moonroof

Thank you!

Yung SCV ineexpect ko na near future. Sana pasok sa warranty period pag nagloko

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[promdiboy]

Bali 2 parts na napalitan ko so far sa 7 years na nakalipas. these are map sensor 5k and scv 11k.
I would suggest blanking egr, primary water separator and filter tsaka 2t oil para ma lubricate scv and quiet down our noisy engine. nakita ko yung damage ng scv may gasgas sa shafting due to friction.

[Starex_Gold]

Bali 2 parts na napalitan ko so far sa 7 years na nakalipas. these are map sensor 5k and scv 11k.
I would suggest blanking egr, primary water separator and filter tsaka 2t oil para ma lubricate scv and quiet down our noisy engine. nakita ko yung damage ng scv may gasgas sa shafting due to friction.

Matrabaho pala. Iniisip ko baka magalit ang naka tataas pag ginawa ko yan sa engine nung BK. But I will suggest parin yun tips mo. Thank you sir PB

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[machinepistol]

How's the ride of the Pajero compared to full-sized and mid-sized SUVs?

[zix888]

egr blanking
occ
40k PMS

[Starex_Gold]

Already at 1,909KM



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[promdiboy]

yes, ok naman pajero. better interior, safer body structure with curtain and side airbags for safety. 4 wheel independent suspension monocoque design better handling and unique sa pajero to para maging mas better on road. halos never naman na off-road pajero dito. better stopping power with bigger brakes, mitsubishi traction control gives alot of confidence sa wet roads. engine is very noisy and old, but can be chipped like mine to gain more power. mas rare sa kalsada

[SuperQuest]

Thanks Promdiboy.

Napansin ko medyo rare nitong Pajero, and gusto kong design nya. However, concerned whether the price differential is worth it. Sat in one this last week and liked the overall interior, but very difficult to compare the value as there is no direct competitor, except the Rubicon perhaps.

What chip do you have installed? It seems that DPChip is the most reliable (based on what they say and what people say).

yes, ok naman pajero. better interior, safer body structure with curtain and side airbags for safety. 4 wheel independent suspension monocoque design better handling and unique sa pajero to para maging mas better on road. halos never naman na off-road pajero dito. better stopping power with bigger brakes, mitsubishi traction control gives alot of confidence sa wet roads. engine is very noisy and old, but can be chipped like mine to gain more power. mas rare sa kalsada

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Thanks Promdiboy.

Napansin ko medyo rare nitong Pajero, and gusto kong design nya. However, concerned whether the price differential is worth it. Sat in one this last week and liked the overall interior, but very difficult to compare the value as there is no direct competitor, except the Rubicon perhaps.

What chip do you have installed? It seems that DPChip is the most reliable (based on what they say and what people say).

yes, ok naman pajero. better interior, safer body structure with curtain and side airbags for safety. 4 wheel independent suspension monocoque design better handling and unique sa pajero to para maging mas better on road. halos never naman na off-road pajero dito. better stopping power with bigger brakes, mitsubishi traction control gives alot of confidence sa wet roads. engine is very noisy and old, but can be chipped like mine to gain more power. mas rare sa kalsada

[crazy_boy]

It turns out the auto 4x4 Monty has "only" about 32nm less torque but around ~20 horses more. And with the power to weight ratio (Paj is about 300kg heavier from what I read), it seems to be more powerful than the great Pajero, both equipped with what I presume are similar gearboxes.


- Is the refinement and driving dynamics of the Paj worth the ~700k price difference compared to the GTV?

engine of the monty and BK may be the same. pero most likely iba tranny and ecu mapping nila.

as for the price, 2.7M yung BK diba? while TOTL monty na 3.2L engine before nasa 1.6-1.7M? so around 1M price difference din?

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It turns out the auto 4x4 Monty has "only" about 32nm less torque but around ~20 horses more. And with the power to weight ratio (Paj is about 300kg heavier from what I read), it seems to be more powerful than the great Pajero, both equipped with what I presume are similar gearboxes.


- Is the refinement and driving dynamics of the Paj worth the ~700k price difference compared to the GTV?

engine of the monty and BK may be the same. pero most likely iba tranny and ecu mapping nila.

as for the price, 2.7M yung BK diba? while TOTL monty na 3.2L engine before nasa 1.6-1.7M? so around 1M price difference din?

[SuperQuest]

Crazy_boy:
3.2l 4m41 (yata) engine ng pajero. Alan ko 2.5l ang GTV, but could be wrong. The Pajero is being offered with Php250k discount currently, and a few salespeople are offering +10k discount on top. It looks tempting pero taas parin especially since the tech offered in them has only gone slight improvements since the BK was released about 10 years ago.

That said, mas modern padin interiors nya compared sa monty. Not sure if that equals the price difference

engine of the monty and BK may be the same. pero most likely iba tranny and ecu mapping nila.

as for the price, 2.7M yung BK diba? while TOTL monty na 3.2L engine before nasa 1.6-1.7M? so around 1M price difference din?

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engine of the monty and BK may be the same. pero most likely iba tranny and ecu mapping nila.

as for the price, 2.7M yung BK diba? while TOTL monty na 3.2L engine before nasa 1.6-1.7M? so around 1M price difference din?

[crazy_boy]

^so ang mura na nga kung less 250k pa yung BK Pajero considering na new model yung ngayon.

[SuperQuest]

*crazy_boy: it looks like, if the reference point is the list price of Php2.7m. I guess I'm trying to justify king worth it to stretch from a GTV which is presently being offered at a shade under 1.7m.

*Ry_Tower: the GTV is a 4D56 2.5 engine, a superior engine from what I gather (175ps, 350nm vs 165ps, 373nm). The industrial ladder-on-frame design of the montero also indicates a much tougher, if less capable, offroader.

Nonetheless, the overall package of the Pajero and especially yung dating nya seems to make it good value. Ang harap mag decide: stretch ang budget or take the sensible approach.

Isipin ko to maige, the insurance company just made the offer so over the next few weeks I need to decide. Sana dahil maigsi ang Feb, mas malaking discount pa :D. Salamat sa points of view nyo, laking tulong sa akin.

[petixs]

Just a quick input...

The GTV monty may have the upper specs in HP in their 2.5 VGT 4D56, but the 3.2 Non VGT Pajero BK's engine has better torque.. the difference in about 10HP isnt noticeable and the anticipated turbo lag isnt that pronounced, the mapping in 3.2 Pajero gives the grunt of torque at low RPM;s, making accelerations a wall climbing experience.

One thing we also noticed in the 3.2 engine is that it is more reliable and has little incidents of EGR and SCV issues. most likely because the 3.2 was designed around an EGR from the onset, the 3rd gen 2.5 4D56T VGT, was just retrofitted to include a better EGR and made to comply with Euro IV emissions.... and this shows in the PHDM Monty that's a tad "smoky" than the 3.2 Pajeros.

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Just a quick input...

The GTV monty may have the upper specs in HP in their 2.5 VGT 4D56, but the 3.2 Non VGT Pajero BK's engine has better torque.. the difference in about 10HP isnt noticeable and the anticipated turbo lag isnt that pronounced, the mapping in 3.2 Pajero gives the grunt of torque at low RPM;s, making accelerations a wall climbing experience.

One thing we also noticed in the 3.2 engine is that it is more reliable and has little incidents of EGR and SCV issues. most likely because the 3.2 was designed around an EGR from the onset, the 3rd gen 2.5 4D56T VGT, was just retrofitted to include a better EGR and made to comply with Euro IV emissions.... and this shows in the PHDM Monty that's a tad "smoky" than the 3.2 Pajeros.