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  1. Join Date
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    Hi, am thinking of buying a pickup for service. Is the '95 model L200 with maybe 150,000 kms still reliable? I heard that the 4d56 engine is very good, but some people say it easily emits black smoke. Is the engine easy to maintain? Obviously parts are easily available. Aside from the engine what other things should watch out for? thanks

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    It can get smoky if you neglect it. I change the air filter and fuel filter at every oil change (I just use replacements to keep costs down).

    Have the timing belt replaced if the former owner has not. Engine maintenance is very easy. The engine bay is large and spacious making it easy to move around. Parts and mechanics are easy to find.

    Check for rust around the fenders and floor.

    Try looking at other units. Some have less that 100,000kms.

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    Reliability is relative to the maintainance of the vehicle.... As Otep mentioned, it's easy to repair and restore the L200. Set aside a budget of 20 to 50K for suspension, engine and body work and your car should be pretty good.

    Look mainly at the suspension, engine (smoke and hard starting) and the body for rust.

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    I used to have a 1997 L200. sold it last May and I still regret it. It was a reliable pick-up. Mura lang ang parts and widely available. It was fuel efficient - I averaged 13km/l on the highway and fast enough for my purpose. And I never experienced major trouble.

    The thing to watch out for is the alternator. The alternator is positioned below the power steering pump and when the pump leaks, it drips oil on the alternator. This easily damages the alternator electronics. So check for leaking PS pump, it may mean alternator trouble is not far away.

    Change the timing belt as soon as you buy the unit and replace every 60t km. And change all the related oil seals while you are at it.

    The expected life of a diesel engine is about 200t km but I have seen some engines last for 300T km and still going strong. It all depends on how well the previous owner took care of the vehicle. Just evaluate the engine carefully. If the engine has lots of oil leaking, it may indicate poor engine condition.

    If I were to buy another pick-up, I'd readily buy an L200 again.

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    Add ko lang, early L200's did not have OEM front seatbelts. So check to see if the unit you are looking at is fitted with OEM seatbelts or if the fitted seatbelts are of the suitable type and properly installed.

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    Thanks for the advise guys. You guys have any idea what the going rate for the 1995-1997 L200 4x2 pickups?

    Calcite,
    I also had a 1997 pickup pero hilux, it had 174000 kms. I just sold it recently, I regret it also . . . it's not that easy pala to buy a reliable pickup for less than 200 thousand.

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    The Best,
    Mahirap kasi maghanap ng reliable Utility rig specially pick-ups na 2nd hand kasi its assumed na pinangharabas na ito ng may ari before.

    I had a 96 L200. I also regret selling it kasi sobrang mura imaintain and sobrang tipid sa crudo.

    Since nagkaroon ka na ng L200, you'll probably know na what to look for in your preference. Kung maganda ang takbo nung previous L200 mo malalaman mo na din kung maganda din ang takbo ng bibilhin mo na 2nd hand. Its to your advantage ika nga, compared to buying a brand for the first time na wala kang point of reference or benchmark.

    HAPPY HUNTING!

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    #8
    yah! Very reliable ang L200 just like the L300! Low Maintenance...

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    djerms,

    I actually had a 1997 hilux 4x2. Never really owned a 4d56 engine based vehicle,. but it seems that okay naman ang feedback. Wala lang masyadong nagbebenta ng old pickups.

    thanks again for the advise.

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    Buhayin ko lang yong thread mga Sir. Meron rin akong balak bilhin na L200 sa Company namin. Mura lang kasi due for overhaul na yong makina dahil kumatok na.

    Would like to know w/c is better, overhaul or replace it w/ a surplus engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rprod View Post
    Buhayin ko lang yong thread mga Sir. Meron rin akong balak bilhin na L200 sa Company namin. Mura lang kasi due for overhaul na yong makina dahil kumatok na.

    Would like to know w/c is better, overhaul or replace it w/ a surplus engine?
    Ill vote for REPLACE! Overhaul is just using the same troubled engine while replacing it with a surplus will give you a better choice as long as you know how to classify a good SURPLUS... GOodluck sir...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rprod View Post
    Buhayin ko lang yong thread mga Sir. Meron rin akong balak bilhin na L200 sa Company namin. Mura lang kasi due for overhaul na yong makina dahil kumatok na.

    Would like to know w/c is better, overhaul or replace it w/ a surplus engine?

    Neither. If you can look for others who's in it's greatest condition and is only needing minor repairs, better.

    But if there's really no choice, then replace the " heart " of the L200 with a new one, in this case a surplus one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rprod View Post
    Buhayin ko lang yong thread mga Sir. Meron rin akong balak bilhin na L200 sa Company namin. Mura lang kasi due for overhaul na yong makina dahil kumatok na.

    Would like to know w/c is better, overhaul or replace it w/ a surplus engine?
    get a surplus 4D56 turbo intercoolerrrr!

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    We have a 1996 L-200 pick up (bought it brand new) yes very reliable and low maintenance, pang-business (delivery) at pag umuuwi ng province ginagamit namin, napabayaan lang ng driver ung engine kaya kumatok so we have to replace it with a surplus 4d56 turbo only this january. Im very happy kse mas malakas na engine.

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    Thank you Sirs for your replies!

    How much is a surplus 4d56 turbo? Saan ho ba maganda bumili & could you recommend a reputable shop for the engine swap?

    I don't know much about diesel engines. Hope I could get tips on how to pick a good one.

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    We bought the surplus engine for P50,000.00. Theres a lot of surplus engine store in banawe. Any reputable shop can do the engine swap, ung sa amin kase ung friend ng dad ko na mechanic lang gumawa, bolt on lang naman at palit lang ng engine support.

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    Medyo mataas rin pala price ng 4d56 turbo. Any other engine that I can use?

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    sir,
    sa Blumentritt hanap ka, sa Batangas St. Sta. Cruz madami doon..

    tanong mo yung mga bagong dating na surplus..

    pwede mo kunin yung engine block with head lang, kung okay pa alternator mo at injection pump.

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    tama bro...4d56 parin ipalit mo...very reliable tlaga..mura at madaling hanapin pyesa and matipid sa krudo.. ganyan din makina ng gen2 pajero ko..11km/ltr ct, and 13.5 km/ltr hiway..providing na suv yun, pero tipid padin..yung '95 L200 namin, nag mark ako dati 15-17 km/ltr hiway..nasa 230k kms na odometer L2 namin pero ok padin..
    not untill naputol yung hose from oil pan to alternator vacuum pump.(cguro sa kalumaan) plus cnabayan pa na nag malfunction yung oil pressure switch ng oil pressure warning, kaya naubusan ng engne oil while on long drive..hayun, general overhaul inabot..mga 30k plus dn nagastos. kawawa naman engine..

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    #20
    I would suggest a Nissan TD27 ng pathfinder at BD25 ng Ultra Eagle. Timing Gears na kasi.e yung 4D56 Timing Belt Isuzu 4JA1 pwede rin.. or kung Mitsu Fan ka talaga 4D56 na Intercooler

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1995 Mitsubishi L200 pickup