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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    hindi ksi tlga tyo pwede magkakasama--parang pinahalo mo ang tubig at langis eh!
    at kng hindi tyo pwede pag samasamahin maghiwahiwalay nlng tyo tutal archipelago naman.

    ang laki ng problema ng bansa para sa kin eto ang pinakamabigat:

    1. insurmountable debts!
    2. balance of power and resources---unfair!


    what if the neighboring provinces capatalize on the politico-economic situation and secede. i think this is a good time to undertake such plans..

    these states will then declare "we are not indebted to any nation in any way whatsoever"
    therefore zero utang (dat means they get a fresh start)

    manila will declare a state of insolvency...

    provinces will put up their own government, constitution etc.. military...
    then seek the recognition of other countries then un...(although i doubt but probable)

    time will come disagreements with neigboring provinces(states) will occur..

    then civil war

    after that we consolidate... as a nation...

    then we will be stronger and have much greater appreciation and recognition of what we are...



    na imagine ko lng itong scenario....
    ksi it seems we have no way out of this mess eh
    so lets overhaul the whole system
    hindi pwede itong tagpi tagpi style..

    kayo what kind of overhaul do you want for the country???

    peace

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    Pwede bang change oil and replace air filter lang... madaming mauulila pag nagka-civil war e. Moreover, you can't have a civil war unless you have two or more factions that have polarized the citizenry and which common people will be willing to fight and kill for.

    Personally, I can find better uses for my time than dying for the likes of GMA and Erap.

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    Just look at those demonstrations, lots of red flags and placards and no Philippine flag.And they profess ,they are doing this for love of country.Trouble occurs and the leaders are the first to flee their followers.

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    be very careful what you wish for...CIVIL WAR?

    Congo has been in a civil war for 5 years. 4 million people have died. watch the movie "Tears of the Sun" for some images on what that war looks like (it's about Nigeria or Rwanda yata, but the scenes are typical of the genocide that happened all throughout Africa)

    the US civil war killed more than 600,000 men. in some states nearly their entire population of young men were involved. think about that and imagine your entire barangay or town with no young men...all your barkada and classmates completely wiped out.

    i think it's safe to say that if it comes to civil war, life as you know it (and the Philippines as we know it) will cease to exist.

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    go to Africa... many more nations are in deeper sh*t than us.

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    pare, kung inoverhaul mo wala din, after the so called overhaul, what guarantee can you make that the new leaders won't follow the same path? hehe.

    sakin eto lang, kung mga tao mismo kaya mag self govern, may pagasa ang pinas... tipong unahin ang change sa sarili before pointing fingers.

    Karamihan kasi dito sisihan. Laging may rason kung baket may di magawa o di masundan.

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    what the Phil need is a leader like Lee Kwan Yew, may pagka iron hand at istrikto. at higit sa lahat e my sense of patrimony or love for one's country.

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    #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Rediesel
    what the Phil need is a leader like Lee Kwan Yew, may pagka iron hand at istrikto. at higit sa lahat e my sense of patrimony or love for one's country.
    A good leader wouldn't even put a dent on our country's problems if its citizens continue to behave the same.

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    I agree with Theveed: the change should start from within each Filipino. But even if change is "the only constant thing in this world", for a lot of people it is the hardest thing to do.

    I'll also confirm what Mazda2 had said: a lot of countries in Africa are in a deeper hole than we are. I know...I've visited a number of them already. Same goes for some countries in Eastern Europe. A couple of countries in LatAm, the same boat.

    No matter who our leader would be, whether he/she has the grit and character of Winston Churchill, the intelligence and leadeship of Lee Kwan Yew or the spiritual depth of the Dalai Lama, if we ourselves do not commit to change, then we would be stuck in this quagmire for decades to come.

    We are like some of the tribes that I had visitied in Africa: we see the mistakes, faults, dirt, and ugliness of the other tribe....even though we do not se ours. While generally Filipinos are friendly, hospitable and happy people, most of us are an undisciplined bunch.

    But I'm a person who believes that hope springs eternal. So, I have a firm conviction that we will rise someday, mabye not during my time...but in the time of my children or their children.

    Don't loose hope. Be like a flower in the desert: though it will not rain for months, the lowly flower knows that rain would come someday...

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    Wag naman Civil War, can't imagine living in fear each and everyday, where a stray bullet or a land mine might end your life or maim you. I saw some feature documentaries in CNN, National Geographic and Discovery, I still feel lucky that I can eat three meals a day, have a home and family. People in war torn nations can't say the same thing.

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    #11
    mahirap pag inoverhaul, ibre-break in mo pa.

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    Everything rises and falls with leadership.
    There should be constancy of purpose from generations of leaders.
    High and sacred purpose with commitment of support from leaders to follow.
    The values of the filipino are eroding as previous and present leaders of our time has no regards with this. We have witnessed how our leaders disregard what the previous admisnistration have started. What our generations have seen from our leaders are manifested to how we individually deal with one another. As parents the most influential figure in shaping the children, the same is true for national leaders and the country development. Unless we have seen strong leadership and someone Filipino could look up to then this country will not change. But soon it will all be over and Filipino will be proud race again.

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    #13
    hehe iba talaga pananaw ng gear heads :D

    matagal pa ba bago pwede ihataw?

    Dati nung wala pa ako anak, parang solusyon talaga gera hehe, pero ngayon, di ko maimagine ilalagay ko anak ko sa lugar na may barilan at putukan...

    uwi nalang ako hong kong hehe.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by boydapa

    kayo what kind of overhaul do you want for the country???

    peace

    just overhaul the media. tanggalin na ang National TV. kanya-kanyang TV stations per province. May sariling pananaw, sariling paguusap and limited lang sa pangyayari sa nasasakupan nila. Parang America, elective lang kung sino manood sa National TV.

    just think of 5-days in Boracay without ABS-CBN & GMA-7 or whatever, saraap d'ba. makes you rejuvinated and ready to face the world with positive thoughts ...

    eliminate the negative energy in the atmosphere that is the news, and we can experience a miracle and be thankful for what we have.

    after all, what is applicable to M.M. is not applicable to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    after all, what is applicable to M.M. is not applicable to all.
    Yup...

    That is why the Ilocos + Cordilleras & Mindanao are threathening to form their own governments should "Manila try to decide the fate of the whole country again".

    Btw... in the provinces the attitude is a lot different here in Manila. Even in the slum areas, I can actually see people working. Plus most of them are already self sustaining in terms of agriculture & basic services. It is Manila that is dependent on the other provinces for survival.

overhaul the country!!