Who would win? Imperial Star Destroyer vs Enterprise D

[niky]

Lots of problems with that movie not befitting Star Trek canon...the red goo, for one, was kind of stupid. But remember, it's a Starship traveling at a constant speed on a known vector, with its shields off.

[ghosthunter]

Why they never did that to the Borg is beyond me...

In fact that what happened in First Contact, it was the Borg who teleported to the Enterprise and nearly assimilated the entire crew.

Teleporter as a weapon is only viable if the target is either unshielded or if the Enterprise has the shield frequencies matched.

The Borg tends to be able to teleport into target ships because they can quickly match shield frequencies, hence it is important for Star Trek ships to randomly rotate shield frequencies to delay attacks by the Borg.

[ghosthunter]

A teleporter will not work through shields. While it will work on unshielded TIE fighters and bombers, the calculations needed to hit a moving target with a highly variable vector are complex. It already takes a while to lock onto another main ship or planet (as per the novels). Locking onto a dodging and weaving TIE fighter may be next to impossible.

One advantage of the Enterprise D is that it is an exploration with advanced sensors and a powerful computer system. I think it would be possible to use the computer (and help from Lt.Commander Data) to lock on to moving Tie Fighters and Tie Bombers... but I would think it would be pointless since Tie fighter/bomber weapons will not be able to penetrate Enterprise's main shields.

BUT a pilotless TieBomber could be teleported so it would be aimed aka kamikazee back into the Imperial Star Destroyer. :evil:

[BratPAQ]

Then the imperial star destroyer would call its big brother, the death star.

[eido]

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Btw napa nood nyo pala Fanboys?

[niky]

The Star Wars books arent a great source. If the Imperial Star Destroyers are really that powerful, they wouldn't need a Death Star to blow up planets. just a dozen destroyers would do to reduce the planet surface to rubble.

Teleporters have limited mass capacity. Otherwise, Starships would not need shuttles. Backpack nukes may be possible,

[Boy Bastos]

Easy lang sa geekness level. Nakakasama ng relationship yan sa mga gels. Unless geeky din sila.

[ghosthunter]

The Star Wars books arent a great source. If the Imperial Star Destroyers are really that powerful, they wouldn't need a Death Star to blow up planets. just a dozen destroyers would do to reduce the planet surface to rubble.

Teleporters have limited mass capacity. Otherwise, Starships would not need shuttles. Backpack nukes may be possible,

Teleporters have limits based on it's targeting system and range (can it lock on?). That is why star-trek starships still have shuttles. It also requires energy. In the middle of a battle, it might be more important to route all power to shields.

[ghosthunter]

Easy lang sa geekness level. Nakakasama ng relationship yan sa mga gels. Unless geeky din sila.

Best to have a geek gf too.

[roninblade]

no contest. Imperial Star Destroyers are designed for battle. you can actually consider it as a carrier battleship. it has 6 heavy turbo laser, 2 heavy ion cannons, plus 6 tie squadrons (72 tie fighters/bombers). and, aside from its main guns it has multiple small to medium weapon arrays for dealing with smaller targets.

the Enterprise's shields would be overmatched and go down in the first salvo from the Star Destroyer. gg

[niky]

Every time I watch a Star Trek battle, it just looks wrong. The ships lack weapon redundancy. They maneuver and fight like old time Ironsides... Low number of armaments, relying on armor and shields to see the battle through.

[ghosthunter]

Every time I watch a Star Trek battle, it just looks wrong. The ships lack weapon redundancy. They maneuver and fight like old time Ironsides... Low number of armaments, relying on armor and shields to see the battle through.

Maybe because Federation starship fleets aren't composed of dedicated warships.

[CVT]

Send in the tribbles...

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[donbuggy]

^ The trouble with tribbles is ...

[Monseratto]

I sure would love to have this poster... Starship Smackdown from Geek Magazine.

[ghosthunter]

Old Battlestar Galactica vs new Battlestar Galactica?

[roninblade]

Old Battlestar Galactica vs new Battlestar Galactica?

you mean 1978/80 vs the 2004 versions?

[oliver1013]

How bout a protoss mothership with carrier, void ray escorts?

[vproject]

The Star Wars books arent a great source. If the Imperial Star Destroyers are really that powerful, they wouldn't need a Death Star to blow up planets. just a dozen destroyers would do to reduce the planet surface to rubble.

Teleporters have limited mass capacity. Otherwise, Starships would not need shuttles. Backpack nukes may be possible,

The Death Star is not only a WMD. It serves as a symbol of the Empire's might and as a deterrent to any systems that may rebel against the Empire. As Moff Tarkin said in the movie... "Fear will keep the local systems in line, fear of this battlestation"

Even if the Empire never even showed themselves in a rebelling world, the thought of the DS suddenly coming in-system and blasting your world would be enough for the local system government from rebelling againts the Empire.

Also blowing up planets is extremely counterproductive as you loose the planet's natural resources, manufacturing/industrial bases, manpower etc. Alderaan was blown up as an example of what will happen if you cross the Emperor.

Regarding teleporters in Trek, they are also very unreliable and unpredictable with results like turning Picard and the officers into kids in TNG or merging 2 people into one like Tuvok and Neelix in VOY.

[vproject]

Maybe because Federation starship fleets aren't composed of dedicated warships.

Most Federation starships aren't warships until the start of the Dominion War and the rise of the Borg did the Feds make warship production a priority (like the Defiants and Akiras).