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[BratPAQ]

Bakit sa pinas wala yung tulad ng mga napapanood ko sa US na may therapy pag depressed? Is phychiatrist too expensive for regular Juan dela Cruz?

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Bakit sa pinas wala yung tulad ng mga napapanood ko sa US na may therapy pag depressed? Is phychiatrist too expensive for regular Juan dela Cruz?

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Kasi may stigma sa Pinas when people find out you're having psycho therapy.

"may sayad" "sira ulo" "unstable" "taga Mandaluyong. Loob o labas?"

When in fact, like a regular check up sa doctor, we need to maintain our mental health.

Di pa mature society natin sa mga ganyan. When many people's concern is how to bring food on the table, wala na sila panahon para mag isip ng sound mental health.

Parang yung analogy ng sakit ng mayaman at mahirap. Sa mayaman, skin allergy. Sa mahirap, galis.

Sa mayaman, depression. Sa mahirap, may sayad. Parang ganun.

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There will come a time talaga na you'll feel so down without any reason. It's like there's emptiness inside kahit na everything in your life is OK.

For a regular folks, this episodes will just run its course but for others na meron problema talaga sa Mind. They'll take action resulting to hurting themselves.


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[kagalingan]

Yang depression na yan eh self-inflicted and unbalance life.

Pag nasa mall , napapadaan ako sa mga resto al fresco dining eh lahat nakayuko hawak smartphone. Kakain na lang chelfone pa din!!!!

Ako iwan celfone sa kotse. Wallet lang dala at susi kotse. Minsan iniiwan ko pa susi ko sa kilala ko tindahan. Bumubukol eh. Pangit naman kung sabit sintureras mukhang tito tatay.

And ang hindi ko talaga magets yung picture picture.

To balance life we need nature. Kaya im so excited baka isang buwan ako this june or september ikutin ko ulit mindanao.

[WallyWest]

Bakit sa pinas wala yung tulad ng mga napapanood ko sa US na may therapy pag depressed? Is phychiatrist too expensive for regular Juan dela Cruz?

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I think it is expensive considering na dapat regular sessions pa yan, di ba? Health insurance cards do not cover it either AFAIK.

If psychiatrists advertised their services like dentists who have their own clinics, will people start seeking help? Sa ngayon kasi parang kelangan mo pa talagang mag-inquire sa hospitals para makahanap ng psychiatrist.

[uls]

yehey!!!

[brushless]

I think consulting a shrink here cost around P2,500 per hour (Makati Med).

[Verbl Kint]

Wakanda forever

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[dr. d]

Bakit sa pinas wala yung tulad ng mga napapanood ko sa US na may therapy pag depressed? Is phychiatrist too expensive for regular Juan dela Cruz?

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1. psychiatrist! bakit! hindi ako baliw!!
2. wala sa lahi namin yan! hindi kami mga sira-ulo!
3. kulang lang sa pansin..!
4. na-kulam! hanap tayo ng anti-kulam!

truly, the local public's perceptions regarding mental illness and psychiatry, are still in the dark ages.

[MR_BIG18]

1. psychiatrist! bakit! hindi ako baliw!!
2. wala sa lahi namin yan! hindi kami mga sira-ulo!
3. kulang lang sa pansin..!
4. na-kulam! hanap tayo ng anti-kulam!

truly, the local public's perceptions regarding mental illness and psychiatry, are still in the dark ages.

Ah....is # 2 passed on from generation to generation?

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[dr. d]

Ah....is # 2 passed on from generation to generation?

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i believe it can.
certain kinds of depression are known to be inherited. the parent had it.. the child has it..
in the recent psychiatric publications,it is now theorized that a number of psychiatric illnesses, actually have an organic basis.
"there is mis-communication among the various parts of the brain." either from acquired disease, or from genetics.
either a lack of certain communication molecules, or a over-production of some molecules.
it causes some brain centers to go in cycles, resulting in certain behaviors, such as obsessive-compulsive behavior..

these are true revelations. back when we were students, it was all conveniently swept under the rug as "for some unknown reason..."

of course, "wala sa lahi namin niyan".
purebreed kami, at hindi mongrels.
heh heh.

[JJB]

A bit expensive nga psychiatrist consult but theres a lot of patients who avail of it. Hindi lang advertised since there’s doctor-patient confidentiality and patients themselves dont tell their relatives and friends.
Isa pang super in demand ngayon is child psych for hyperactive and autistic kids.


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[dr. d]

A bit expensive nga psychiatrist consult but theres a lot of patients who avail of it. Hindi lang advertised since there’s doctor-patient confidentiality and patients themselves dont tell their relatives and friends.
Isa pang super in demand ngayon is child psych for hyperactive and autistic kids.


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yes, they are expensive.
but a number of patients say their conditions improved with it + medication.

yesterday's makulit kids are today's adhd.
yesteryear's tongo kids are today's autistic.

as a sweeping statement, many filipinos are still uncomfortable with the idea that someone in their family, or they themselves, are seeing a head shrinker.
kinahihiya nila.

[brushless]

1. psychiatrist! bakit! hindi ako baliw!!
2. wala sa lahi namin yan! hindi kami mga sira-ulo!
3. kulang lang sa pansin..!
4. na-kulam! hanap tayo ng anti-kulam!

truly, the local public's perceptions regarding mental illness and psychiatry, are still in the dark ages.

#1 Common reaction. It's embarrassing.

#2 Can have a genetic link:

"Scientists have long recognized that many psychiatric disorders tend to run in families, suggesting potential genetic roots. Such disorders include autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), bipolar disorder, major depression and schizophrenia."

#3 KSP is one of the many symptoms of mental illness.

"Histrionic personality disorder is characterized by constant attention-seeking, emotional overreaction, and suggestibility. A person with this condition tends to over-dramatize situations, which may impair relationships and lead to depression. "

#4 There is no medical cure for mental illness. There are disagreements and debates whether to consider psychiatry as a science.

"Modern psychiatry, with its psychotropic medications and psychotherapies, is not as scientific or as effective as we would like, but it has undeniably saved lives and improved the quality of life of countless sufferers." - Harriet Hall, MD

"Once in treatment, your physician or psychologist rarely mentions the word “cure.” Cure is what doctors do for a broken wrist or scurvy. Set the wrist or give the patient a vitamin C shot, and voila! Done. Treating mental illness rarely results in a “cure,” per se. What it does result in is a person feeling better, getting better, and eventually no longer needing treatment (in most cases). But even then, rarely will a professional say, “Yes, you’re cured of your depression.

Which brings me back to the question — how do you cure mental illness? The answer — you don’t. You help people understand what it is, learn and engage new ways of coping with its symptoms, and help them do the best they can with the resources they have available. Right now, there’s no “cure” for mental illness."

- Psychcentral

If there's no cure and it's not science, then what is it?

[JJB]

#1 Common reaction. It's embarrassing.

#2 Can have a genetic link:

"Scientists have long recognized that many psychiatric disorders tend to run in families, suggesting potential genetic roots. Such disorders include autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), bipolar disorder, major depression and schizophrenia."

#3 KSP is one of the many symptoms of mental illness.

"Histrionic personality disorder is characterized by constant attention-seeking, emotional overreaction, and suggestibility. A person with this condition tends to over-dramatize situations, which may impair relationships and lead to depression. "

#4 There is no medical cure for mental illness. There are disagreements and debates whether to consider psychiatry as a science.

"Modern psychiatry, with its psychotropic medications and psychotherapies, is not as scientific or as effective as we would like, but it has undeniably saved lives and improved the quality of life of countless sufferers." - Harriet Hall, MD

"Once in treatment, your physician or psychologist rarely mentions the word “cure.” Cure is what doctors do for a broken wrist or scurvy. Set the wrist or give the patient a vitamin C shot, and voila! Done. Treating mental illness rarely results in a “cure,” per se. What it does result in is a person feeling better, getting better, and eventually no longer needing treatment (in most cases). But even then, rarely will a professional say, “Yes, you’re cured of your depression.

Which brings me back to the question — how do you cure mental illness? The answer — you don’t. You help people understand what it is, learn and engage new ways of coping with its symptoms, and help them do the best they can with the resources they have available. Right now, there’s no “cure” for mental illness."

- Psychcentral

If there's no cure and it's not science, then what is it?

It’s still science or medicine if you’re trying to look for a cure. There are billions of dollars in research right now to look for cures to countless diseases.


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It’s still science or medicine if you’re trying to look for a cure. There are billions of dollars in research right now to look for cures to countless diseases.

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Thus, the debate.

[brushless]

From psychiatrists themselves: Skip at 1:18



“There are no objective tests in psychiatry-no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitively that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.” “It’s bull—. I mean, you just can’t define it.” — Allen Frances, Psychiatrist and former DSM-IV Task Force Chairman

[uls]

Bakit sa pinas wala yung tulad ng mga napapanood ko sa US na may therapy pag depressed? Is phychiatrist too expensive for regular Juan dela Cruz?

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yung matagal na may nararamdaman sa katawan ayaw pa magpa-doktor yun pa matagal na may kalungkutan

di pa ganun ka-evolved ang society natin para mag seek help for psychiatric disorders

coz sa physical ailments palang undertreated na ang mga tao

[dr. d]

From psychiatrists themselves: Skip at 1:18



“There are no objective tests in psychiatry-no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitively that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.” “It’s bull—. I mean, you just can’t define it.” — Allen Frances, Psychiatrist and former DSM-IV Task Force Chairman

i agree. for now.

my belief regarding the "..no laboratory, exam or xray test..." is that, we simply do not know what test to perform, or how to interpret it, or, the test does not yet exist in the laboratory.
i believe we are limited by our ignorance.
but i am hopeful, that in the future, such tests will be available.

[dr. d]

If there's no cure and it's not science, then what is it?

if the medication works, even if only a bit, then it's a science.
a science bent on finding out why it works in some, and not in many.
and in how the batting average can be improved.

that is how science begins.
first, by observing.
then, by asking questions.
then, by theorizing.
then, by proving or disproving the theory.
and somewhere along the way, medication.

psychiatry is still in its infancy.
as is the rest of medicine.

"the more we know, the more we realize that we know very little."