What do you believe in? Evolution or creationism?

**CoDer** · January 30th, 2006 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Psalm136:2

So what's this thread for?

For some pointless argument maybe.

To think that every living things came from a single cell life form billions of years ago. And oooh there are still monkeys around.

**kuroy** · January 31st, 2006 09:37 AM

Genesis 1: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth....." How??

Lord God I believe in your Word. PERYUD!

**Bogeyman** · January 31st, 2006 02:54 PM

Reminds me of that anecdote between the pilot and the surgeon, discussing on whether or not God really existed:

The pilot says to the surgeon, "I've logged a hundred flights to the heavens, sometimes reaching the edge of space, but I have seen neither God nor His angels and saints."

The surgeon, who was a Christian, answers him, "And I've operated on the brains of a hundred great men, but I have never seen a single thought."

**BoyFerrari** · January 31st, 2006 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bogeyman

The surgeon, who was a Christian, answers him, "And I've operated on the brains of a hundred great men, but I have never seen a single thought."

This is a very interesting paradox. The number of brain cells in a human is FINITE. How can a human store all information received by his senses in these FINITE number of brain cells alone?

This is what they say that MEMORY is not stored in the human brain, but in the human mind. The mind is part of that entity that gives life to this organic body of ours. Certainly, the presence of a "mind" cannot be explained by evolution of the species.

Siyanga pala, anybody knows how Lazarus died the second time around?

**mrpink** · January 31st, 2006 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by BoyFerrari

This is a very interesting paradox. The number of brain cells in a human is FINITE. How can a human store all information received by his senses in these FINITE number of brain cells alone?

well .. even if it is finite .. we're only using 10% of our brain daw .. (i'm probably using less) .. which probably means i probably can't comprehend 90% of what is happening around me .. i could attirbute the 90% to God since i wasn't able to eat from the fruit of the tree of knowledge .. or i could attribute it that i haven't evolved enough to make use of the 90% of my brain power .. either way .. my brain cells has no relevance on this topic .. and so is pushing one's personal belief over the other ..

God must have loved the cockroach ... it's one of the most resilient lifeform on earth .. unless the earth vaporizes .. that specie will outlive all of us .. i wonder if it has free will ..

**BoyFerrari** · January 31st, 2006 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by mrpink

well .. even if it is finite .. we're only using 10% of our brain daw ..

You clearly don't know the difference between the brain and the mind. People who say they are using only 10% of their "brain" must have quantified using a scientific instrument that 90% of the brain is inactive.

Originally Posted by mrpink

my brain cells has no relevance on this topic .. and so is pushing one's personal belief over the other ..

If there is a belief that there is a "mind" which is separate from your BRAIN CELLS, then that means there must be a Divine Being who CREATED it, because the MIND could not have possibly EVOLVED along with the organic species. See the relevance?

**city** · January 31st, 2006 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by BoyFerrari

This is a very interesting paradox. The number of brain cells in a human is FINITE. How can a human store all information received by his senses in these FINITE number of brain cells alone?

This is what they say that MEMORY is not stored in the human brain, but in the human mind. The mind is part of that entity that gives life to this organic body of ours. Certainly, the presence of a "mind" cannot be explained by evolution of the species.

Siyanga pala, anybody knows how Lazarus died the second time around?

Mind= dynamic processes of the brain. It's not a thing. It's not separate from the brain. Scientists have long understood this and have explained how it works. Just as the brain evolves from birth to adulthood...the mind develops from simple to complex ones.

**BoyFerrari** · January 31st, 2006 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by city

Mind= dynamic processes of the brain. It's not a thing. It's not separate from the brain. Scientists have long understood this and have explained how it works. Just as the brain evolves from birth to adulthood...the mind develops from simple to complex ones.

The mind is not just a description of how the brain works. Some psychological behaviours of humans are attributed to anomalies of the mind eventhough their brain is physiologically and functionally normal.

**city** · January 31st, 2006 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by BoyFerrari

The mind is not just a description of how the brain works. Some psychological behaviours of humans are attributed to anomalies of the mind eventhough their brain is physiologically and functionally normal.

mind= dynamic processes of the brain.

anomalies of the mind are anomalies of the brain processes.

**niky** · January 31st, 2006 05:39 PM

Actually, we don't hold every single scrap of information in our brain as analogue (kumbaga, like a picture), but as digital information... or better yet, as a program for a memory.

It's like this: Try to remember your first bike. Try to remember riding it. Your brain calls up images of whay you know you looked like at the time. Images of what you thought your bike looked like at the time, and then it manufactures a background and places everything together.

Memories are chemical. They are etched into our brain, but they are not exact. That is why you lose memories as you get older, because unless you actively (electrically) access those memories often, the matrix holding them dissolves over time, as our brain cells start dying out.

Kaya nga medyo fallible ang memory natin, because it is not precise. This is a conundrum for crime scene and disaster investigators, as eyewitnesses often remember things wrong. They incorrectly recreate memories... often wildly.

In fact, people will often not witness an event precisely as it happens. We carry around a virtual reality simulator within our heads. It helps us deal with an environment overloaded with information. As you read this, you cannot see your computer or your surroundings unless you look at them or remember to look for them in your peripheral vision. Our perception is that limited.

If something is too far beyond our experience for us to grasp, we cannot perceive it properly. Thus, some people see "ghosts" or UFOs, because an environmental stimulus overwhelms their internal virtual reality simulator. That's why horror movies can scare us so... they completely disrupt our reality at times and upset our equilibrium.

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What is difficult for scientists to explore is the seat of consciousness. You can map out the electrical and chemical activity in the brain, but it's difficult to pinpoint what makes up your ego, or where your thoughts reside.

Nobody knows how much you can add or subtract to the brain while keeping the same person inside of it. Will you still be you after 40% brain damage? Would you still be you if someone actually made your brain grow? (you must be... it's much bigger than when you were a kid).