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    Fellow tsikoters,

    what happen to our fellow member (ssaloon) is really a shocking experienced and i think this is the right time to share what we need to do or anything to avoid burglars.

    grabe na ang panahon ngayon, like in our place - a maid was killed after she let 2 men get in for some reasons. This guys took everything and left her lifeless.

    i'll start :

    i suggest, if you can have a guard dog then do so.

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    kahit gaano kahigpit ang security system, makakapasok ang mga magnanakaw pag pinapasok.

    wag kalimutan i-educate yung mga helpers at lahat ng taong bahay para di basta basta nagpapapasok. yung iba siguro diyan, nililigawan pa yung helpers para makuha yung tiwala at information, tapos papasukin.

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    The only thing that comes to my mind is vigilance . Be aware of who's who and what's what within your neighborhood.

    I personally know a family who has two dobermans and a german shepherd but their house was still burglarized, not just once. But I would still recommend to have a guard dog.

    Always make it a habit to close the gates, bolt the doors even during daytime.

    Before retiring at night, be sure that you've checked that all doors are locked & bolted.

    And never, never open the gates/doors to a stranger.

    That's about the most an ordinary household can do.
    Last edited by artpogi; June 24th, 2004 at 02:55 PM.

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    install a motion sensor with spot light sa front & back ng house.
    meron sa handyman at ace hardware nito.
    meron rin motion sensor with alarm that you can place sa stairs or living room.

    also install an intercom sa gate para hindi na lalapit ang mga inday kapag may kumakatok.
    natututukan sila kapag lumapit.

    avoid too much plants around the house for them to hide and wait for you to wake up and open the door.

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    Nanakawan kami a few months ago and we were thinking of different options. One option was taasan yung fence another option that was to get a dog (this was my preferred option because i wanted one for the longest time). we finally came to the decision of just getting a dog.

    We bought a dobermann and i'm very happy in getting that breed. very agressive towards strangers and very playful with my family

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    ok

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    bale wala lang ang guard dog or security system. Alam nyo ba pano nakakapasok ang mga bulglars? 2 common way:

    Aabangin nila yung maid mo. Stalking her to see what time she comes in and out. Pagtapos, tututukin lang ang maid mo, free pass na sila.

    Second way is to stalk YOU and your family. lalabas pa lang kayo, 3 guys aabang sa front door, tutuk baril at your face. What are you gonna do? Scream? Even if nasa garage ka, driving out, they'll jump out the moment you open the door, tututukin ka lang ng baril, I guarantee you'll stop. You're not faster than bullets.

    A good solution would be to buy a P2,000 camera sa raon and install it outside your house, maybe 1 camera for each blind side. Wire it to a P500 portable TV. You have instant view of your house at any time. Makikita ninyo din kung sino nagtatambay sa harap ng house ninyo.

    Makes it a habit na kung may tao sa bahay at lalabas yung maid mo para mamalengke, she's not allowed to carry the keys with her. kailangan niyang kumatok muna bago pumasok. this way, you could look at the camera first before you let her in.

    Most people I know that get robbed, lagi ang maid ang kasalanan. hindi nila sinasadya of course. pero yak yak ng yak yak to people around the neighborhood. siya ang accessible ng mga crooks. siya ang madaling takutin. She also doesn't care because it's not her money ang mawawala.

    Kung gusto mo security, live in a condo that enforce strict policy concerning visitors. Gaano kalakas ang loob mo kung dadaan ka sa 2 securiy guards, elevator operator, all the janitors, in and out?

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    Surveillance Cams!

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    1.) get a gun and make sure everyone knows that you have it. dati sa parents ko almost every month nanakawan ang kotse nila o ng kapitbahay. also may umakyat na dun sa kapitbahay nila twice. when i bought a gun i made sure that i cleaned it outside the house, in front where everyone can see. did that for several months, every week, linis ng baril in front of the house. ever since wala na nagnanakaw kina erpats o sa neighbor nila, even though i don't live there anymore.

    2. another thing you can do is make sure the surroundings are well lighted. it does not take much, isang 15 watt pl lamp lang sa front ng house and another at the back. better to position the lights at the house corners para covered ang 4 corners ng house kahit 2 lights lang install mo. turn it on at 9pm, off at 6am. burglars hate well lighted places.

    3. get a motion sensor as mentioned above. cost is a bit high for the complete system with central controls, but you can always just buy the single infrared units that you can install inside the house. this is what we have, 3 of these that we turn on every night and turn off in the morning. position them in most likely ingress points, like the front and back doors, and the veranda if your house has one. sa amin we have 1 facing the front door in the sala, 1 in the kitchen facing the door, and 1 in the hallway. cost was about P1500 each sa ace hardware.

    4. if you have 2nd floor windows that are accessible because there is a roof below it, then make sure that window has grills or that the window itself can't be opened. for example, they sell at ace hardware those yale window dead bolts. put the key somewhere near the window for emergencies but not in a place that someone from the outside can see it. that is also another place where you can put the motion sensors.

    5. if you can't afford motion sensors, then a simple push button normally closed switch will do. connect this to a doorbell buzzer or bell. make sure the buzzer is 6 volts so it can have dual power, from a 220V:6V transformer or from batteries. you can install these on all your doors and windows, several switches all wired to one buzzer.

    6. there are also small magnetic switches powered by button cell batteries. this is what i have istalled in all doors and windows kina erpats. just have to remember to replace the batteries once a year.

    6. if your maid is so bobo that she keeps forgetting what you tell her to do or not to do, get another maid. preferably ***y and beautiful that the subdivision security guard will always be passing by your house to check on her or one so ugly that even the world's most fearless robbers willnot dare go near.

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    ako merong labrador retriever sa house. kaya lang lahat ng tao, maski ngayon lang nya nakita eh dinidilaan ang kamay..

    i would also like to get a gun, kaya lang hindi ko alam kung pano itatago sa anak ko.

    pareng yebo, i like your last suggestion.

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    happy_gilmore

    if you get a gun don't hide it from your kid. you know the saying "curiosity killed the cat" di ba. if your kid is curios about it kahit saan mo itago yan hahanapin nya yan at paglalaruan.

    my brother was only 6 years old when i bought my 1st gun, and naturally, as all kids are, he was looking at it from a distance when i brought it home. so, even with my mother's objections, i allowed him to handle the gun (supervised syempre). i told him how it works, how the safeties work, how it is loaded, how to tell if it is loaded and cocked, how it could fire. i even taught him how to disassemble and assemble it. i told him that it was not a toy but something that kills. after that even if i leave the gun on top of his study table he will not touch it without asking me, and only if i show him that it is not loaded. kahit ibigay ko pa sa kanya pag di nya nakita na tinanggal ko yung bala sa chamber he will not touch it. even when left alone with nobody around he will not touch the gun. kasi di na siya curios e, alam na nya. i even took him to the firing range and allowed him to fire a few rounds. now he does not even look at it, its not a novelty anymore.

    the next gun i brought home ganun din ginawa ko. i called him, and naturally he wanted to know how it works since it is a different design from the old one. same result, after he disassembled and assembled dedma na nya.

    same thing when i brought home the m16, but he was not that curios anymore. after i answered all his questions ayun sabi sa akin mas gusto pa daw nya yung Daisy BB gun nya at pwede gamitin ulit yung bala hehehe. he's more into computer games, he does his shooting there na.

    he is 12 years old now, 6 years with guns at home left anywhere i leave it and no accidents. not even once did he try to get the gun without asking or being told to do so. now my mother even tells him to hide my gun if i leave it in the sala. he unloads the magazine, empties the round from the chamber, uncocks the gun, and puts it in the metal box beside the bed. all unsupervised. tiwala na mother ko e, alam nya di gago bunso nya.

    my cousins also did the same, after i gave them the same advice i'm giving you now. my nephews and nieces were even younger than my brother when they bought their guns. ngayon kahit iwananan namin ang gun in the open ni hindi nila tignan. they know what what a gun can do, they know guns are dangerous, they know guns are not toys.

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    Originally posted by effone
    Fellow tsikoters,

    what happen to our fellow member (ssaloon) is really a shocking experienced and i think this is the right time to share what we need to do or anything to avoid burglars.

    grabe na ang panahon ngayon, like in our place - a maid was killed after she let 2 men get in for some reasons. This guys took everything and left her lifeless.

    i'll start :

    i suggest, if you can have a guard dog then do so.
    live abroad... like singapore.

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    Originally posted by ghosthunter
    live abroad... like singapore.
    even abroad - they also do have their share of these thieves.

    our home hasn't been burgalized YET. here are some tips:

    1. have a see through fence & gate for your front yard. in this way - your neighbors will be able to see what's going on your house. even if it means that you'll lose some privacy.

    2. have dogs! kahit askal yan pwede na yan. tatahol rin yan kapag may strangers.

    3. don't ever come out of the house when there are strangers. we usually speak to strangers through the window of our house (since the gate is quite near).

    4. always lock your gates! kung hindi naman gabi at maraming tao - kahit yung di pindot lang. deterent rin yan.

    5. have double locks, deadbolt locks and whatever installed on your doors.

    6. wag na wag ninyong iwan ang bahay na walang tao. yan ang purpose ng maid talaga. nung nawalan kami ng maid - oras lang kung mawalan ng tao sa bahay. ang technique ko rin jan is to turn on the tv and have it slightly faced towards the road. tapos may naka on na electric fan. para kunwaring may natutulog.

    7. be friends with your neighbors. always look out for each other's house.

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    teka anu bng nangyari ke mikko? (ssaloon)

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    pinasok yung bahay nila. may thread siya sa dito sa pitstop

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    pinasukan yung bahay nila ssaloon ng madaming chicks! ayun nagkagulo at madaming nawalang mga bagay
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    #17
    Yong airguns legal bang dalhin sa car?

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    ingatan muna ang aso, kasi samin pati aso ninanakaw buti na lang askal yung ninakaw

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    For me I have the following for the prevention:

    1. Surveilance camera installed in front of the house and at the back. Even at night it can clearly see those people coming near the gate (of course with little light on outside). The camera is very visible sa tao.
    2. The camera (front one) is hooked to video recorder that that records video for 980 hours straight using 1 VHS tape.
    3. I have an alarm system in the house which I always turn on at night. It has an IR sensor just to make sure.
    4. It has a panic button installed a different area in the house that can be activated anytime.
    5. It has a dialler that call my relative once the alarm is activated.
    6. The alarm bell is so load that the whole neighbors will definitely be warned.

    And lastly kinaibigan ko yung mga kapitbahay mo para tulungan ka if somethings happen.

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    Pinasok din yung apartment namin last year. Walang silbi yung guwardiya, kasi lately nalaman ko na inside job. Yung isang worker pala ang salarin.

    I wasn't there when it happened, but I would think that since it's just a small place, more locks would've done the trick.

    I would've wanted to invest in nice motion sensing devices with alarms or time-lapse video recording pero saka na yon.

    A gun would be nice, but only useful if you're at home when it happens. Plus better to give away material possessions than fight it out unless they're raping you or your loved one.

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