Weather TALK [forecasts, etc]

[shadow]

ano sabi ni coops?

According to korina Sanchez Mali daw, conflict of interest.


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[rollyic]

cooper naba ang pangalan ng darating na bagyo?
o babaguhin na ang title ng thread na to? :D

[chookchakchenes]

Ngayon sa mga noypi matatapang. Type nyo ba makipag-gera sa china

Ito natural calamity. Magkababayan nag-aaway para sa pagkain hirap na ayusin. What more pa kung ibang lahi na kalaban mo.

Tapos sa dami pa ng bading sa bansa na ito Taruussshhhhhh

[macsd]

The international donations should course through their contributions to private institutions like Red Cross with their own distribution capability. Pag sa gobierno binigay yan, swerteng makarating ang kalahati ng goods and the $ will surely end up into individual pockets. Walang audit yang donations since coming from outside so madaling dugasin ng mga kawatan sa gobierno.

[badkuk]

The international donations should course through their contributions to private institutions like Red Cross with their own distribution capability.

Saw a tweet yesterday about giving cash donations to Red Cross and other charitable orgs instead of in-kind, since they are VAT exempt, your money goes an extra 12%.

i also read somewhere that foreign donations are considered public funds...so at least in theory, me pananagutan sila in the court of law pag binulsa nila yan.

[badkuk]

8 crushed to death as hungry villagers storm Leyte town NFA warehouse


This is not the way to "distribute" relief goods, Order has to be restored...even at the point of a gun. If the government is indeed falling short in its relief efforts, i don't see how mob rule can do any better.

[Retz]

God was away when ‘Yolanda’ flattened Tacloban—Duterte



DAVAO CITY, Philippines—“I think God was somewhere else when the typhoon hit,” Mayor Rodrigo Duterte said Tuesday night after a daylong visit to Tacloban where he saw the streets littered with dead people, and survivors foraging for food, three days after Supertyphoon “Yolanda” (international codename: Haiyan) barreled through the Visayas.

“God must be [have been] somewhere else or he forgot that there’s a planet called Earth,” Duterte told reporters at the arrival area of the Davao International Airport.

After seeing the extent of the devastation, Duterte said, he thought that the more appropriate thing to do was declare a state of emergency rather than a state of calamity, which is what President Benigno Aquino did Monday night, as local governments in severely affected communities were not functioning at all.

“This is just a suggestion; I don’t mean to dictate upon [anyone],” he said. “But the state of calamity is not enough, it has to be a state of emergency because there is no local government functioning anymore. The police, the army, the social workers, all of them have to attend to their dead, no city government is functioning.”

“As a Filipino, I have to say something,” he added.

Duterte, who turned over P8 million worth of relief goods and equipment to the areas severely hit by the typhoon, said he even saw a policeman in uniform among the dead lying on a roadside.

Duterte appeared shaken by the sight of survivors alongside the dead in Tacloban.

“Death on the roads, no electricity, no food and water, and people walking on the streets like zombies, looking for food,” he said.

He had ordered a team of 911 relief workers and rescuers to bring medicine to Tacloban by land on Saturday afternoon. The team arrived in Tacloban Monday morning, after they hacked and cut their way through fallen trees along the way, and cleared some roads of debris.

Duterte said he was right in sending a medical team to Tacloban but said they would be

When Duterte left for Tacloban Monday morning, some people in Davao sent him a list of names of people to look up. But Duterte said he failed to find them or even to ask about their whereabouts because there was no local government to ask from.

“There was no semblance of a barangay (community),” he said. “They were overwhelmed by their own dead, the barangays were not functioning anymore. All you see are people walking aimlessly on the streets, like zombies, looking for food.”

He advised those who have relatives in Tacloban to go to the devastated city, extract what is left of the family and bring them out of there because there was nothing to eat in Tacloban right now.

“Take them out of there, bring them outside, you can’t get anything there, not even a piece of candy,” he said.
He said he did not know whether to cry or shout in anger when he saw the devastation in Tacloban.

Source: God was away when ?Yolanda? flattened Tacloban?Duterte | Inquirer News

God was away when ?Yolanda? flattened Tacloban?Duterte | Inquirer News

[Retz]

kinukumpara ng CNN ung japan tsunami dito sa typhoon surge natin. 1 day lang daw nandun na mga japanese rescuers.

[Retz]

tumaas na din ang airfare from manila to tacloban.

[badkuk]

kinukumpara ng CNN ung japan tsunami dito sa typhoon surge natin. 1 day lang daw nandun na mga japanese rescuers.

Well, we *are* talking about Japan here. Balang araw you'll see rescuers donning the exosuit to move debris and stuff.


And:

- i think Fukushima is on the main island of Japan -- no sea crossing needed to get there
- and more importantly, Infrastructure in Japan is eons ahead of PH. We are now reaping the bitter fruits of all those stolen pork barrel funds.

[Sweetlucious]

kinukumpara ng CNN ung japan tsunami dito sa typhoon surge natin. 1 day lang daw nandun na mga japanese rescuers.

It even took the gov't 3 f*#ng days to declare a state of calamity, and still can't restore law and order. So slooooowww!

Can't wait what gov't spin masters have to say about this.

[vinj]

God was away when ?Yolanda? flattened Tacloban?Duterte | Inquirer News

When Duterte left for Tacloban Monday morning, some people in Davao sent him a list of names of people to look up. But Duterte said he failed to find them or even to ask about their whereabouts because there was no local government to ask from.
“There was no semblance of a barangay (community),” he said. “They were overwhelmed by their own dead, the barangays were not functioning anymore. All you see are people walking aimlessly on the streets, like zombies, looking for food.”

Er, from another Inquirer article, yung Konsehal/Wife-ni-mayor, unang ginawa ata was to fly to Manila.

Tacloban mayor?s wife recounts ordeal | Inquirer News

[111prez]

...Can't wait what gov't spin masters have to say about this.

Kasalanan daw ni Arroyo at Corona ito

:headache:

[crazy_boy]

Yolanda survivors arrive in Manila
Yolanda survivors arrive in Manila | GMA News Online

i hope they will not become squatters here afterwards.

[baludoy]

UN already defended PH govt relief efforts considering the severity of the situation
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i did watch the CNN interview of the head of the UNDAC (United Nations Disaster Assessment and Coordination) in tacloban last night and he said the gov'ts performance re the relief ops is commendable under the profoundly difficult circumstances. unprecedented daw iyong logistical problems na kinakailangan i-overcome ng rescuers. the indian ocean tsunami and the japanese tsunami were different animals compared to the wrath of typhoon yolanda when it came to the scale of destruction

still, time is of the essence for our poor visayan brothers and sisters. they're really broken down there

[shibby75]

At least naiwan si mayor sa tacloban. Di naman siguro masama na siguraduhin ang safety ng mga anak nya.


Kung sila umalis BEFORE the storm, yon ang masama.

[Retz]

comment sa yahoo news.....

"An open letter to the UN OFFICIALS:

Please do not hand this to our government officials. For it will surely go directly to their bank accounts.

US$ 300 million is around Php13 Billion. Is at least the amount stolen by the filthy thieves in the government during the last ten years.
Seeing the damage sustained by this disaster, and the amount of aid our friends want to gather to help total strangers, than you just realize how much those criminals stole.
It's time to get rid of them.

To foreign countries giving aid to the victims of typhoon Hainan: Please,please direct your aid to the victims themselves, and not to national and local government officials. Those congressmen and senators: they are bunches of crooks! They are worst than the looters in Tacloban city."

[vinj]

At least naiwan si mayor sa tacloban. Di naman siguro masama na siguraduhin ang safety ng mga anak nya.


Kung sila umalis BEFORE the storm, yon ang masama.

I kinda doubt the mayor knew what was going to hit them:

Tacloban mayor’s wife recounts ordeal
By Leila B. Salaverria
Philippine Daily Inquirer
12:30 am | Tuesday, November 12th, 2013
...

Cristina’s husband was inspecting a nearby resort when the water came, forcing him and his aides to retreat to a ballroom and hang from the ceiling, as the sea tried to claim them, she said....

Our company will do away with the Christmas party this year and channel efforts to relief and rebuilding.

BTT: It's finally drying up now after rains this morning.

[jayteecie]

This article makes me sick

Tacloban mayor?s wife recounts ordeal | Inquirer News



I dunnot but it seems very wrong that:
- She flew to the comforts of Imperial Manila after the storm when now is the time that she should be tending to her constituents and living up to her elected duties (supposedly to coordinate the packing of relief goods... WTF).
- Her mayor husband was inspecting a resort prior to the storm???

Buti pa sila Duterte, Gordon, Roxas, Gazmin, etc...

While I respect your opinion, please give them a break. They already suffered tremendous ordeal. Notice how tears were flowing spontaneously down her cheeks while she was being interviewed? That my friend moved me coz it's something that can't be faked. If I'm right, she just wanted to bring their kids to safer place which any normal mother would do. Put yourself in her shoes, maybe you'll understand what she did. Me? I'd do the same.


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[vinj]

While I respect your opinion, please give them a break. They already suffered tremendous ordeal. Notice how tears were flowing spontaneously down her cheeks while she was being interviewed? That my friend moved me coz it's something that can't be faked. If I'm right, she just wanted to bring their kids to safer place which any normal mother would do. Put yourself in her shoes, maybe you'll understand what she did. Me? I'd do the same. Why don't we just do our part by helping instead?


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I respect your opinion as well. My reaction comes from the point of view that if a person is used to leading people, it's a hard feeling inside that part of the job is to be present amongst your people when they need you the most; it's a leadership function so to speak. If you were elected into a position with great responsibility and while your bayan is falling into chaos, you are away, that's very hard to set aside. Even Quezon and McArthur did not leave the Philippines to fight another day until the Japanese were knocking at their doorsteps. A lot of tsikoteers already have a feeling of guilt that we can be warm at our own homes, knowing what is going on out there and it is continuously heartbreaking to read what is going on.

But yes, we are all doing our part... In my case, i've already started with the people i can help directly

Anyway, back to regular programming.