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    Last edited by rlp1099; August 1st, 2006 at 05:02 PM.

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    Management talaga :D

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    A good read... hopefully this gets read & acted upon by the top honchos of our companies. :swear:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    A good read... hopefully this gets read & acted upon by the top honchos of our companies. :swear:
    Don't worry bro, I'm reading.

    :charing:

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    IMHO, it's not all management's fault. May bearing din ang attitude ng isang employee minsan - baka madalas pa nga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon
    IMHO, it's not all management's fault. May bearing din ang attitude ng isang employee minsan - baka madalas pa nga.
    Nic...

    I think that the article is pertaining to companies retaining their top-performing employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Nic...

    I think that the article is pertaining to companies retaining their top-performing employees.
    You have a point there. The...context of the article can be interpreted both ways: based on the views of management and based on the views of an employee.

    But really, management should not be blamed everytime when they loose people. It's like blaming the coach everytime a player wants to leave.

    I've worked long enough and have worked with several firms (in different industries) to know that the problem of employee turn-around can be brought about by a number of things - both from the management side and the employee side.

    Two examples:

    I had an officemate before who left the company because their VP didn't promote him as manager and instead hired a new manager. Now, I've worked with him quite a number of times and I tell you, he doesn't have what it takes to manage a department. That was also the view of his co-department workers and of HR. In short, he isn't qualified to manage. He felt he was insulted because he assumed he was a 100% shoe in for the job. In this situ, I think the problem lies with that ex-coworker of mine and not management.

    In the last firm I worked for (before I went into this consultancy thing), there were two people vying for the position of AVP for accounting. One was CPA, who had a proven track record while the other was a pioneer employee of the organization who has intermediate knowledge in accounting but is not an Accounting major. We were all expecting that the CPA person got the promotion but she did not - the other person got the position. Reason: the promotion was a reward for her loyalty. It also helped that one of her relatives sat on the board. In this situ, the problem was with management.

    All I'm saying is that it's not management's fault everytime an employee quits his or her job.

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon
    All I'm saying is that it's not management's fault everytime an employee quits his or her job.
    Baka nasa Top 11 to 20 yong puro 'Employee...' naman.

    Of course it's not the management's fault everytime.... it's just most of the time.

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    I agree din with nico: What if the management NEEDS to make those changes like relocating office and not giving pay raises to keep the company afloat?

    Parang mga kumag na nagwewelga sa factory na bankrupt na... Parang yung sa C5/Rosario sa harap ng Tiendesitas, for sale na yung factory andun padin sila the past 2 years, di nalang naghanap ng trabaho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    I agree din with nico: What if the management NEEDS to make those changes like relocating office and not giving pay raises to keep the company afloat?
    theveed... marami akong kilala... they were working before in their respective provinces then when the company suddenly needed personnel in Manila, they were coerced to be relocated here. their only compensation is small one-time relocation fee. now they have to rent apartments/rooms here then just go home once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    I agree din with nico: What if the management NEEDS to make those changes like relocating office and not giving pay raises to keep the company afloat?

    Parang mga kumag na nagwewelga sa factory na bankrupt na... Parang yung sa C5/Rosario sa harap ng Tiendesitas, for sale na yung factory andun padin sila the past 2 years, di nalang naghanap ng trabaho.

    +1 here.

    although based on the article, i would say na yung biggest factor would be yung directional role ng management and yung decision level ng R&F, most of these factors are really way beyond the control of management and because they have to do it because of business factors.

    minsan, ilagay din natin ang position natin at a management point of view. business is business and there are certain requirements that management would have to do to protect stakeholders requirements.

    pero there are ways to balance everything.... and for one thing, communication and team work is a key.

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    #9 and #7 are very applicable sa mga call centers. i'm not wondering why quality of call centers is deteriorating.

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    they are not treated well.

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    Bad trip naman yun M2 hehe... Dapat sagot ng company ang relocated apartments...

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    Yon na nga lang mga nagwork ng Makati, i-relocate mo ng Alabang at malamang na magsipag-resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trajano
    Yon na nga lang mga nagwork ng Makati, i-relocate mo ng Alabang at malamang na magsipag-resign.
    ....hehehe, ako naman hiniritan ko yung director namen ng "why don't we open a site in alabang?!?", sabi lang niya, we can't afford it right now. ako naman...uhm, ok.

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    hehe ako anything south of Mandaluyong di ko na inaapplyan hehe.

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    number #3

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    i once had the privilege to listen to F Jaucian on a similar topic, he said that management needs to prioritize three things to get & retain good people: 1) hire them well; 2) train them well; and 3) pay them well... ako nga, when i was relocated from makati office to batangas, i was given a monthly relocation allowance of X0,000, excluding other allowances for gas, maintenance, the car, etc. i really felt top management's support although i already live down south. that experience made me realize how much better it is to travel south in the morning instead of towards makati
    Last edited by slamtaz; August 2nd, 2006 at 09:30 AM.

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    NapakaSwerte mo naman sir slamatz.... I believe you give your all dahil narealize mo na pinapahalagahan ng kumpanya ung mga tao...

    Sana dumami ung ganitong kumpanya

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