Walang pasok due to transport strike (2/27/1017)

[Juan Martinez]

for greater good rather than for betterment of some drivers, it is high time now that these old jeepneys should go. not only they pose risks to environment but, more importantly, health hazards to the public in general.

in their dilapidated state, old jeepneys are clear and present danger to commuting public and motorists. they are ticking bombs on the streets, not only in metro manila but also in many parts of the country. where i am now jeepneys look like running junks with wheels.

relying on government doesn't cut it. to paraphrase popoy juico, relying on government gets us no where, not unlike running on a thread mill- running for hours but doesn't bring the runner anywhere. jeepneys operators should be self-reliant. why would they engage in that line of business if they cannot sustain it. they owe it to their drivers. they are issued certificate of public convenience, but their wares hardly provide convenience to the riding public. they owe it more so to the public.

[jut703]

for greater good rather than for betterment of some drivers, it is high time now that these old jeepneys should go. not only they pose risks to environment but, more importantly, health hazards to the public in general.

in their dilapidated state, old jeepneys are clear and present danger to commuting public and motorists. they are ticking bombs on the streets, not only in metro manila but also in many parts of the country. where i am now jeepneys look like running junks with wheels.

relying on government doesn't cut it. to paraphrase popoy juico, relying on government gets us no where, not unlike running on a thread mill- running for hours but doesn't bring the runner anywhere. jeepneys operators should be self-reliant. why would they engage in that line of business if they cannot sustain it. they owe it to their drivers. they are issued certificate of public convenience, but their wares hardly provide convenience to the riding public. they owe it more so to the public.

Putting myself in the jeepney driver's shoes, why will I get buried in debt to buy a new vehicle when my current one serves me just fine?

Since it's not yet outlawed, there is no incentive for jeepney drivers to upgrade their rides. If a Vios serves you just fine for personal transport, why will you buy a Maserati especially if you can't afford it?

And again, I go back to the premise that even if the government bulldozes their way through this (which they do quite often, I've noticed) by banning jeeps outright, you cannot suddenly force these isang-kahig-isang-tuka drivers to cough up the money for a new, modern jeep.

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[dr. d]

Putting myself in the jeepney driver's shoes, why will I get buried in debt to buy a new vehicle when my current one serves me just fine?

Since it's not yet outlawed, there is no incentive for jeepney drivers to upgrade their rides. If a Vios serves you just fine for personal transport, why will you buy a Maserati especially if you can't afford it?

And again, I go back to the premise that even if the government bulldozes their way through this (which they do quite often, I've noticed) by banning jeeps outright, you cannot suddenly force these isang-kahig-isang-tuka drivers to cough up the money for a new, modern jeep.

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magtalo sila sa emissions testing at list of vehicle equipment must-haves.
"the jeepney unit that fails to satisfy these requirements, shall not be allowed on public thoroughfares."

[dr. d]

and it's the franchise operators' problem. if they can't ensure the safety of their vehicles, and they can't invest in 'em, then they better get out of the business and surrender their franchise. let the investor with funding take over."

[jut703]

magtalo sila sa emissions testing at list of vehicle equipment must-haves.
"the jeepney unit that fails to satisfy these requirements, shall not be allowed on public thoroughfares."

That's how it should work - ideally. There really are those who insist on a "pwede na" mentality, and those really have to go. A clear standard on what is the minimum acceptable operating condition is needed if the government wants to move forward with this discourse.

Currently, the proposal is to ban all jeepneys older than 15 years old. In the same way that motorists with cars from the 90's will complain that their 20-year-old relics are in better shape than newer vehicles, jeepney owners will also cry foul.

Which is why there should be strict standards on vehicle road-worthiness that will be properly implemented. It all starts there.

Now, if they decide to have a uniform ban 15-year-old jeeps, that's the government's call, as long as the younger jeeps are still subject to the same standards. It's less poor-friendly, but if it elevates the general road-worthiness of the jeepneys on the road, then so be it.

If your jeep is too old, out. If your jeep is new but fails to meet standards, out. Only when your jeep is new enough and good enough will you be allowed to keep your franchise.

With these strict guidelines in place, the assistance to facilitate the shift is needed. To be fair to the DOTr and LTFRB, it's included in their considerations.

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It just needs to be ironed out so that jeepney drivers know what standard they will have to uphold, and how they can go from road wreck to safe public transpo without going bankrupt.

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[dr. d]

personally, i am not in favor of public utility vehicle useful lifespan limits.
i am more in favor of vehicle condition requirements. i have no issue with MD and JD buses of the 1970s, still plying their routes today, as long as they pass the safety requirements.
the un-hinging key here, however, is the laxity of our maintenance and inspection personnel. sila yung mga "puede na" mentality.
i remember one story decades ago... the swedish vehicle inspector goes about his inspection of the vehicle in question, with a mallet in hand! he gives a suspicious panel a whack, and if rust falls off, the vehicle is banned.

can we have something like this here? wala working vehicle lights (all of them! including dome lights and dash lights), ban! wala starter, ban! wala busina at horn button, ban! pollution spewer, ban and impound! ayusin nila sa impound area. after staying in the impound area for 3 months, confiscate and make into fish condo.
tough laws... tough times. you want nice air? fight for them!

[BratPAQ]

what's the technology they are proposing ba? why not make yearly registration a strict inspection of road worthiness of jeepneys so you just affect those who are really irresponsible on maintaining their jeepneys.

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[dr. d]

what's the technology they are proposing ba? why not make yearly registration a strict inspection of road worthiness of jeepneys so you just affect those who are really irresponsible on maintaining their jeepneys.

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that'll work... if the evaluators are honest and the implementors likewise.

[JJB]

How much kaya ang jeepney trade-in sa buy back program ng DOTr and how much ang bagong jeep na ibibigay nila???


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[dr. d]

How much kaya ang jeepney trade-in sa buy back program ng DOTr and how much ang bagong jeep na ibibigay nila???


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magkano ba yung cash for clunkers sa 'merika?

[kreme]

Ang nagpahirap sa situation ng puj is yung 1 kahig 1 tuka lifestyle(owns 1 unit and main source of livelyhood), kung pwede sana ipatigil na ng govt ang manufacturing ng jeepneys and giving new franchise. Then let the existing jeeps reach the regulated eol.

The puv replacements (ejeep/mini bus) should now be run by operators (should own atleast 5 vehicles) with complete compre insurance, parking lot, then employee benefits(sss,phealth,hmo), fixed salary w 13mo pay to drivers.
But this would mean a very risky/small profit business, so just make a gocc for this?

[BratPAQ]

banning all jeepneys older than 15 years old is easier than having a stricter regulations during yearly registration. Yung sasakyan ko pa lang eh nagbabayad lang ng fee ng smoke emission test but doesn't really undergoes a test. I don't think they can change the culture inside lto in my lifetime.

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[Juan Martinez]

not only jeepneys, let the government includes buses.

the bus that figured in fatal tanay incident, according to ltfrb spokesperson, was more than 15 years old.

these running coffins should be laid now to rest.

[BratPAQ]

problem with basing the road worthiness of Jeep and busses aa age eh yung iba chop chop lang gagawin, ilalagay ang makina sa bagong kaha, rehistro, then 0 ulit yung year count.

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[minicarph]

bakit ba hinde na di i-tokhang mga pasaway ng jeepney operators. i think economic sabotage ang gawa nila

[BratPAQ]

just saw what the government was proposing. to replace the jeepneys with electric Jeep. it's like asking a owner of a workhorse pickup truck to replace their vehicle with golf cart. current jeeps runs on deep flood, carries 20 people, some you can fill yo the brim with vegetables yo be carried to the market. and they want to replace that with a flimsy golf cart? isang ondoy lang yan at sira ang mga yan.

yes I believe that the current jeeps need better maintenance, maybe convert it to gasoline for less pollution. have a stricter yearly registration.

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[JJB]

Wala nga traffic ngayon but kawawa mga commuters like my secretary, hirap sila sumakay talaga.

[minicarph]

Wala nga traffic ngayon but kawawa mga commuters like my secretary, hirap sila sumakay talaga.

mataba ba secretary mo? kasi di mo sinabay

[basti17]

It's about time we get rid of all those old puj/puv. somewhere, somehow we should start with something in order for our lives to be better.