US government shutdown - your thoughts?

[Balikpinoy]

My thought is simply... F*ck democrats.

Don't forget the thugs of the Republican Party. It takes two to dance and this manufactured crisis is plain stupid blackmail of the American electorate.

[donbuggy]

Daily Kos: The government shutdown of 2137

[falken]

Don't forget the thugs of the Republican Party. It takes two to dance and this manufactured crisis is plain stupid blackmail of the American electorate.

It's plain old extortion.

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[[archie]]

Republicans are willing to compromise on Obama care. Democrats full implementation. It's a debt disaster waiting to happen.

[Balikpinoy]

Republicans are willing to compromise on Obama care. Democrats full implementation. It's a debt disaster waiting to happen.

What's there to compromise on? Obamacare is the law of the land, validated by the re-election of Obama and upheld by the Supreme Court. It's thuggery and blackmail to defund its implementation even before it's fully implemented.

[[archie]]

Yes it's a law but I'm with the republicans on this. It's not that republicans want a full shut down of the law, they want a test for a year then if it does not strain the economy, then go ahead. Democrats wants to dive in head first which in my opinion is a disaster waiting to happen.

Well that's just my opinion.

[safeorigin]

Yes it's a law but I'm with the republicans on this. It's not that republicans want a full shut down of the law, they want a test for a year then if it does not strain the economy, then go ahead. Democrats wants to dive in head first which in my opinion is a disaster waiting to happen.

Well that's just my opinion.

That is in fact correct.



Last time I checked, the congress was put into place to ensure checks and balances.

[[archie]]

^^ its all about the political agenda of Democrats.

[safeorigin]

[[archie]]

There is no end in sight... Democrats are in stand off about Obama care.

[uls]

U.S. Risks Default If Congress Doesn?t Act Soon, Lew Says (2) - Businessweek

Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew said Congress needs to pass a debt-ceiling increase by Oct. 17 or the U.S. will be “dangerously low” on cash and risk defaulting on its payments.

“On the 17th, we run out of our ability to borrow, and Congress is playing with fire,” Lew said on CNN’s “State of the Union” today. “If they don’t extend the debt limit, we have a very, very short window of time before those scenarios start to be played out.”

“If the United States government, for the first time in its history, chooses not to pay its bills on time, we will be in default,” Lew said. “There is no option that prevents us from being in default if we don’t have enough cash to pay our bills.”

[[archie]]

Yeah, it will do a lot of damage to their economy. Republicans are passing bills to pay off some of the debts and fund government. Democrats just want Obama care to be funded first before any actions take place.

[uls]

i'm not taking sides

i just hope they raise the debt limit

[safeorigin]

I'd rather see people get jailed like in Iceland.

[niky]

i'm not taking sides

i just hope they raise the debt limit

Yup. However arrogant the Democrats are in pushing for a health insurance act that few people want and the government can't afford, the Republicans aren't any less reprehensible.

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Time for a switch to Fascism?

[safeorigin]

Well, it's not that bad compared to the other side of the pond...

"We will be the only country in the world charging for the use of the sun," says Jaume Serrasolses.

"Strange things are happening in Spain. This is one of them."

Mr Serrasolses, the secretary of an association promoting the use of solar energy, SEBA, is referring to the government's proposal for a tax solely on those who generate their own electricity.

They would pay a backup toll for the power from their solar panels, in addition to the access toll paid by everyone who consumes electricity from the conventional grid.

BBC News - Spain?s sunshine toll: Row over proposed solar tax

Tax for using the Sun...

[safeorigin]

Yup. However arrogant the Democrats are in pushing for a health insurance act that few people want and the government can't afford, the Republicans aren't any less reprehensible.

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Time for a switch to Fascism?

wait, I'm confused. Aren't they already fascists?

[niky]

wait, I'm confused. Aren't they already fascists?

Hmmm... Guantanamo Bay... drone surveillance... NSA... nope... not yet. The government is severely lacking in officials with bushy moustaches.

Speaking of the hidden powers-that-be:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/open_letter.png

And people think this US government is smart enough to have started 9/11?

[[archie]]

Favorable talaga mga citizens sa democrats because the media focuses on what the president have to say but the admin was the one putting up barricades on parks and they were the one who introduced the shut down idea. Republicans never wanted the shut down that's why they were compromising on the matter.

[uls]

Republicans only had to pass a budget without dragging Obamacare into the discussion

that's all they had to do

but noooo.... they dragged Obamacare into the budget talk to force Obama to make a tough decision --- stop Obamacare or the govt doesnt get a budget

Obama called their bluff

no budget

shutdown

now they're dragging Obamacare and other stuff into the debt ceiling talk to force Obama to make another tough decision --- give the Republicans what they want or the US defaults

that's how crazy the Republicans are

now they're risking default

the shutdown is nothing compared to what will happen if the US treasury runs out of cash

US govt shutdown is a US problem

US default is a global problem