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  • Careful planning

    6 46.15%
  • taking risk

    7 53.85%
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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    is it taking risk/ chances
    or

    careful planning


    what is your take..

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    a little of both with a good helping of luck as well.

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    success = preparation [careful planning] + opportunity [taking risk] + luck

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    Taking risks worked well for me.

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    You must have good timing and good decisions.

    When luck comes into play, jackpot.

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    calculated risks

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    success is an illusion.

    if accumulation lang ang purpose mo sa buhay, then that is hardly what we can call success.

    life is about getting what you want at the shortest possible moment. and then move on, to the next want.

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    life is about getting what you want at the shortest possible moment. and then move on, to the next want.
    like a carjacker

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    Quote Originally Posted by jansky View Post
    is it taking risk/ chances
    or

    careful planning


    what is your take..
    for me, both planning and taking risk/chances without fear of losing, plus preparation, and of course, luck is a big factor, plus you must also be industrious and patient.

    it appearing that most of the commentators here are from the business world, well, the title is "success in life", and for me, it is also achieving something that you really want like your profession, and you're happy with it. Further, the success of a person is not only for himself but that of his children, if he's able to raise his children diligently and they also become successful like him, then, that is the real success in life. Kasi merong successful professionals/businessmen pero winaldas lang ng mga anak ang pinaghirapan nila.

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    If unsure be single tsikoteers. and if you have pangarap sa pinas be really single.





    Humans of New York
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    “I’m trying to start another company. The first one failed. I tried to get a regular job for awhile but I just couldn’t do it. There are a lot of downsides to being an entrepreneur. No boss to ask for help. No regular paycheck. My girlfriend and I have put a lot of our plans on hold. But at least I’m in control. I’m free. I own the value of my work. At my old job it was the same thing over and over. Same office. Same people. Even if you get a promotion, it’s just a different set of responsibilities. A different brand next to your name on LinkedIn. Nothing meaningful has changed. The only thing that’s changed is how people see you. And what is that worth? When I was in college I met all these people with dreams of starting NGO’s and changing the world. But then they had kids, and got a new condo, and a new car, and they got stuck. Everyone keeps saying: ‘one day, one day.’ But you ride the metro in the morning and you see all these people who’ve been working the same job for twenty years. They look empty almost. We all know that nothing takes eight hours to do everyday. But that’s the culture. We’re stuck in that structure. We’re stuck in meetings. Or killing time on our phones. Just waiting for the weekend. And what’s the point of it all? To buy new things. To seem important. I just can’t do it. I have to find a way out.”


    (Montreal, Canada)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    If unsure be single tsikoteers. and if you have pangarap sa pinas be really single.





    Humans of New York
    I-like ang Page Na Ito · 12 oras ·



    “I’m trying to start another company. The first one failed. I tried to get a regular job for awhile but I just couldn’t do it. There are a lot of downsides to being an entrepreneur. No boss to ask for help. No regular paycheck. My girlfriend and I have put a lot of our plans on hold. But at least I’m in control. I’m free. I own the value of my work. At my old job it was the same thing over and over. Same office. Same people. Even if you get a promotion, it’s just a different set of responsibilities. A different brand next to your name on LinkedIn. Nothing meaningful has changed. The only thing that’s changed is how people see you. And what is that worth? When I was in college I met all these people with dreams of starting NGO’s and changing the world. But then they had kids, and got a new condo, and a new car, and they got stuck. Everyone keeps saying: ‘one day, one day.’ But you ride the metro in the morning and you see all these people who’ve been working the same job for twenty years. They look empty almost. We all know that nothing takes eight hours to do everyday. But that’s the culture. We’re stuck in that structure. We’re stuck in meetings. Or killing time on our phones. Just waiting for the weekend. And what’s the point of it all? To buy new things. To seem important. I just can’t do it. I have to find a way out.”


    (Montreal, Canada)
    Quarter-Life Crisis?
    EDIT: Ang tagal na palang topic neto.. Sa main topic / original post dalawa lang option.. Pero success in life depends on the person tsaka sa goal nya sa life.. Kung saan sya makakaramdam ng fulfillment and happiness.. We cannot generalize success, it's personal..
    Sample: Successful sya kasi sikat yan. It's the speaker's definition of success but it does not mean that the subject feels the same way.. What if for the subject ang pagiging sikat ay burden sa kanya because he/she cannot go to places without a plan or nakaka pressure magkamali kasi ma tag agad as failure..
    Tsaka every success meron pa rin pros and cons na kasama.. Ikaw pa rin magdecide sa sarili mo kung successful ka kahit i-sum up pa lahat ng cons..

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  12. Join Date
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    no he's basically saying people are wasting their lives in 9 to 5 jobs and that he's better off being an entrepereneur

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    no he's basically saying people are wasting their lives in 9 to 5 jobs and that he's better off being an entrepereneur

    good luck
    Thanks for making it clear.. Oo nga yun yung sinabi niya sa first part..

    My friend shifts on being entrepreneur.. Mas nahihirapan sya dahil need nya gumising ng mas maaga at dahil hands on sya hindi na sya pwede ngayon mag leave (lagi na absent sa lakad, kaya kami na lang nag oovernight sa kanila kahit may pamilya na sya).. Hehehe.. Nung empleyado sya nali late pa yun sa work kahit alam nya naman na petiks sya madalas bad trip sya kapag may gagawin.. Pero ngayon lagi siya may work at di pwede pepetiks petiks kasi siya na ang boss hahahaha..
    Pero nasabi ko sa kanya.. Mas happy siya ngayon, kahit mas pagod sya.. Nakikita ko na yung aura nya mas positive compared sa dati.. [emoji4] Mas gusto nya kasi ginagawa nya..

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    I studied world-class athletes and their rise to fame and fortune.

    Michael Phelps struck me the most as odd if our metrics for success are fame and fortune.

    He succeeded in his sports. He is the greatest Olympian of all time. He had 23 Olympic golds, but the Philippines, populated by 100 million people, never had a single gold since joining the Olympics in the 20s. He said, if you want to be the best, you have to do the things that other people aren’t willing to do.

    He started swimming at 11 years old, not that impressive considering that Tiger Woods started hitting golf balls at the age of two. According to his swimming coach, Bob Bowman, there was a time that Phelps practiced everyday for 12 hours a day or more for 5 or 6 straight years.

    But has he succeeded in life? If so, then why did he at one point consider of taking his own life?

    There’s no question thru hard work he achieved so many things. But achievement and success are two different concepts.

    Achieving your daily, monthly, quarterly, annual goals does not mean you have succeeded. If your goal is to be rich and famous, and you become rich and famous, it does not mean you already have succeeded. You just achieved your goal.

    I think to succeed, you need to start with Why. You need to know your purpose, your cause, and your belief.

    People who changed the world, the Wright brothers, Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs, to name a few, knew their belief, cause, and purpose.

    The list of billionaires who agreed to give half of their fortunes to foundations are increasing. I think when you’re already up there, you only get to succeed only if you give back and change the world.

    And that is, I think, what is meant to succeed.





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    achievement is objective. everyone can see the figures on the tally sheets and agree.
    success is subjective. it's how you feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    achievement is objective. everyone can see the figures on the tally sheets and agree.
    success is subjective. it's how you feel.
    You put it exactly in just few words.

    Success is in the limbic brain; achievement is in the neocortex.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    success is subjective. it's how you feel.
    Yeah...I set my bar really really low. Keeps frustrations at bay...& allows happiness, a constant company.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Yeah...I set my bar really really low. Keeps frustrations at bay...& allows happiness, a constant company.[emoji4]

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    i'm with you.
    some folks like to raise the bar.
    i prefer keeping it lower and easily achieveable.
    kinda like those mmda-designed pre-formed concrete elevated pedestrian crossings with pedestrian-unfriendly high steps, compared to the steel crossings with not-so-tall steps.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 11th, 2020 at 11:48 AM.

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    The more you go up, the bigger your goals are. Humans are wired to aim for something bigger and better, contentment is subjective.

    If you want to live a simple life, move away to a place with less people and be one with nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Yeah...I set my bar really really low. Keeps frustrations at bay...& allows happiness, a constant company.[emoji4]

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    The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.

    Not mine, but from Michelangelo



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