Sopa & pipa

[shadow]

Your take?

[Ry_Tower]

This is what wiki is doing right now, a blackout to show displeasure. I fully support this because there is really a possibility that these laws, which is US based, can affect the whole world and give the US some sort of leverage in terms of information and intelectual property rights. I agree that the possible consequencs can be dramatic so we should be wary of this. Even if this is passed, meticulous review and transparency is a must.

The question is really how to do this effectively.

[renzo_d10]

My take?

Bullsh*t.

[Altis6453]

Whew!

Read thru the SOPA Bill and it was a bit difficult.

The concern here is that the proposed law authorizes the US Attorney General to institute an action against what they deem to be a "foreign infringing site". That matters since you now have a possible conflict of laws as to what actions constitute infringement in the US vs. another country.

Can the US validly sanction or punish intellectual property infringement if the laws of the other country don't consider it to be so?

[Ry_Tower]

Whew!

Read thru the SOPA Bill and it was a bit difficult.

The concern here is that the proposed law authorizes the US Attorney General to institute an action against what they deem to be a "foreign infringing site". That matters since you now have a possible conflict of laws as to what actions constitute infringement in the US vs. another country.

Can the US validly sanction or punish intellectual property infringement if the laws of the other country don't consider it to be so?

Yes that is one early flaw being pointed out, US legislative but it has worldwide repercussions.

[uls]

basically it gives the USG too much power

[jansky]

OT.. but related

nakita nyo na ba ang WIKI ngayon?

[Retz]

OT.. but related

nakita nyo na ba ang WIKI ngayon?

blackout ang wiki due to SOPA.

[CVT]

In this time and age,- information should be freeflowing....

Napanood nila siguro si (late) Ka Ernie.....

14.7K:cow:

[Retz]

For their support of SOPA, Anonymous is also going after Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Kim Kardashian, and Taylor Swift. "To those doubting our powers," the group adds. "We've infiltrated the servers of Bank of America, The United States Department of Defense, The United Nations, and Lockheed Martin. In one day." - Anonymous

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjOPXpd9PSU&feature=player_embedded]Anonymous: Message to SONY on SOPA - YouTube[/ame]

[Altis6453]

It's like a combination of the powers and authorities granted to the US Government and the US Attorney General in the Patriot Act (apprehend or arrest first, ask questions later) and the Sherman Act (anti-trust law). Scary, most especially since this gives the US the authority to enforce the SOPA outside of its borders.

[xninjax]

It is poorly written. They have not carefully understood the repercussions of what they have placed in there

It will not solve the piracy either , which is one of their objectives.

[renzo_d10]

SOPA is dead!

:party:

[uls]

even without SOPA, they shut down **********

[111prez]

even without SOPA or PIPA, the US has already done extraterritorial intellectual property enforcement (ref: US and Elcom v Sklyarov [2001])

this US attempt comes at the heels of the french HADOPI

in essence, US wants the ISP and/or web host sites and/or the site itself (e.x. tsikot.com) to be their police or otherwise be held liable in the same degree as the infringer.

this sends a chilling message to sites for sharing, social networking or foruming

that is the real objectionable matter

[uls]

shut down youtube

it's full of pirated content

[Ry_Tower]

^ oo nga, papano yun! ?

[ChunkyLover]

In greek "Sopa" means shutup... and "pipa" means bl** jo*
so together they say "shut up and bl** jo*" hahahahaha

[renzo_d10]

even without SOPA, they shut down **********

at hinuli pa nila yung mayari ng **********

[niky]

Part of the ********** thing is also money laundering.

Actually, I've always thought it was a mistake to close down **********. Why they simply don't go straight after *******s... arrest seeders or close down ******* services.

Instead, they close down a file-share website.

A file-share website that encourages high traffic users to buy premium.

So... instead of closing it down... they could keep it open, peruse the credit card payments of high traffic users, which would give them the names and home addresses of the biggest pirated content sharers.

Noooo... let's just close it down so all those big-time file-sharers will go further underground...