Some basic facts on the Issue of Palestine and the Israel-Arab Conflict

**StraightSix** · February 13th, 2009 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by sequoia

Since this is a topic about islam too. i Hope the thread starter would let me post this. Anybody seen this movie? A controversial film - which links the Islamic holy book to terrorism http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=216_1207467783
I'm having second thought of starting a thread re this very interesting movie.

I've never heard anything about the film before ... until the Home Office prevented Geert Wilders from entering Britain today.

That film's purpose is to incite hatred against ALL muslims. The UK government just gave Wilders the publicity he badly needs.

**Horsepower** · February 13th, 2009 05:10 PM

Actually, all the author did was narrate verses from the quran with matching activities from the muslims. Logically, there's nothing wrong with it.

Theo Van Gogh did the same and he was murdered.

UK Govt obviously declined Geert because they are afraid of the muslims. Cowards. At least Germany got balls to stand up and uphold freedom of speech.

**rion** · February 17th, 2009 02:06 PM

for pete's sake. Jews and Muslims are step brothers through Abraham.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael

Originally Posted by Horsepower

it's a stupid war based on a mythical book (which not surprisingly is too biased in favor of the jews who are the aggressors occupying a land they do not own in the first place).

sa akin, I believe the Jews owned that land once... it has been recorded in history naman sa Crusader era... and King David's wall remains today...

Originally Posted by Gen. Miting

pero we have to admit nag-iisa lang sya na napapalibutan ng kaaway and yet buhay na buhay.

haha... it's not new. ilang beses na yan nangyari sa Bible. their race is a super survivor race...

Originally Posted by Gen. Miting

I'm thankful that the Jews are guarding it for us Christians.

well I'm not, the crusaders also made dirty bloody hands guarding the "Kingdom of Heaven"

Originally Posted by Monseratto
I think the orthodox still think themselves as God's chosen people, hence superiority over other races.

as a believer, I really don't like that orthodox" yet, I believe it... those luck bastards... and unlucky din... hehe...

this are all as as a personal believer's point of view lang po ha... no racism here... because they still have my respect and a bit of my envy. I hope walang Jew dito.

**valvura** · February 17th, 2009 02:43 PM

they always blew it. they killed their own creator. they always fall short, stuborn. never believed Jesus is the messiah. so they are still waiting for their messiah. they cannot accept that the messiah was poor, born on a manger and HUMBLE... gusto nila bonga yung messiah with all earthly glory...

this seems to be the same view of people who initiated the holocaust, to avenge the death of Christ...

but note that there were also messianic Jews who accepted Christ to to be the Messiah (including the Apostles and early christian followers) who founded the present Catholic Christian faith (handed down from Peter and Paul)...

more reading:
http://www.israelcatholic.com/conten...59/77/lang,en/ :war:

**rion** · February 17th, 2009 03:37 PM

*valvura: so you were able to read it before I removed it... that was a way over the line... I should have keep it to myself... I appologize...

please guys don't make my removed comments any more bigger. that was my bad... thank you.

**Horsepower** · February 17th, 2009 06:06 PM

Rion, what you said was, based on the bible, true. Why be sorry for the truth?

Religions are just that, religions. Freedom of speech should never be suppressed just because of them.

**Monseratto** · February 17th, 2009 06:40 PM

I think this thread will end up in religious bashing...

**valvura** · February 17th, 2009 06:46 PM

[SIZE=2]However, 'truth' is relative. This is where conflicts start.[/SIZE]

I agree with Mon. I suggest that mods to close this thread.

**Horsepower** · February 18th, 2009 08:33 PM

Religion is terribly divisive. I'm sure the Supreme Being is so mad for all the CRIMES done by the supposed followers (well I'd be).

John Lennon is so right when he sang:

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one