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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    That's bad news. Sayang, very promising pa naman yang Mall of Asia... and very expensive at that. Di bale, mayaman naman si Henry Sy. Para sa kanya, parang nagpatayo lang sya ng karinderya!

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    im not surprised at all. . . reclaimed area and all...

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    #3
    but di naman lahat ng reclaimed lumulubog eh, yung buong check lap kok airport sa hk including the world's longest combo bridge is build on reclamation...

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    on the other hand, the soil analysis could have been correct but, as jaeger suggested, somebody decided to cut costs, maybe Henry himself?

    medyo complicated ang problema nitong sm mall of asia kasi baka yung lupa umurong na papunta sa dagat ... so they need to prevent the slippage first before refilling/reinforcing the portion where soil was lost ... i guess the building now have a shorter lifespan than originally planned

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    #5
    kaya totoo ang sabi ng matatatanda palubog na nga raw ang pilipinas!

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    #6
    Have red this and many emails are circulating about this, here's a part of it:

    excerpt from Manila Standard Today - February 27, 2006

    Cracks endanger Pasay's Mall of Asia

    THE Mall of Asia at the reclamation area in Pasay City is mysteriously vibrating and city engineers fear that it may collapse because of huge cracks underneath the structure.
    The city hall's engineering department inspected the mall over the weekend to determine the source of vibration and city engineer Edwin Jabarubyas warned that the cracks may affect the stability of the entire building.
    The Mall of Asia is scheduled to be opened on March 3 but the city hall decided to postpone the opening until the vibrations are fixed and cracks are repaired by its contractors.
    A multimillion-peso project, owned by SM Malls owner Henry Sy, it has several contractors like DSL Construction Corp., Malaysian Contractor and two other foreign builders.
    The engineering team that inspected the area said the cracks underneath the mall were caused by the continuous digging which affected the reclaimed land.
    The vibration of the mall is definitely due to the cracks underneath, the Pasay City engineering team said.
    The cracks are located in front of the building along C-5 Road. One crack measures around 5 to 10 meters and the other one 3 meters.
    The engineering team said that if the cracks deteriorate, it could cause the building to collapse.
    Jabarubyas recommended the immediate repair of the reclamation area and suspended the March 3 inauguration of the mall until another inspection is conducted that will attest the safety of the mall to operate.
    Mall of Asia is considered the largest mall in Asia and the city engineer said it is very important that it be safe before it is opened to the public.
    Mall of Asia originally occupied more than 6,000 sqm of reclaimed land in Pasay City but another 3.5 hectares was added.


    na-forward lang po sa akin yan......

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    katakot yan, ganyan wala pa nga load eh lumulubog na what if my mga live at dead load na yan (i mean mga tao at mga equipments na gumagalaw) di lalo nang lumubog yan....

    meron cgrong soil analysis yan, yung construction cgro me problem na cgro dyan....

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    Once kasi nagkaroon ng settlement sa lupa talagang magkakaroon ng effect sa structures.

    kaya cgro delayed ang opening kasi nga naman pag gumuho yan responsibility ng Management yan at sakit sa ulo hehehehe.....

    SAFETY FIRST..................

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    #9
    yung building ng store ko ang alam ko malambot din ang soil, ang ginawa nilang foundation is MAT Foudation, meaning parang isang floor na buhos sa ilalim...imagine mo cost nun pero super tibay daw kasi yung buidling namin and can handle a load of 30 pounds per square inch

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    #10
    I've been reading about this over the past few weeks since I'm concerned of the safety of that location, my new employer (dell) has their call center located at the mall of asia complex.

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    #11
    hindi ko nadinig ang news na ito..ang alam ko naman hindi pa talaga siya tapos na tapos kaya delayed ang opening..sana maayos nila ito sayang naman kung hindi dadayuhin ng tao sobrang laki pa naman...

    tanong ko po..diba ang reclaimed areas lumulubog talaga gradually as time goes by?or pag maganda ang foundation hindi?curious lang..thanks!

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    Yun Airport ng Japan meron industrial shocks sa ilalim na nakakaadjust ng height nung flooring ng Airport to compensate dun sa pag lubog ng lupa. I don't think Mall of Asia has that and that could be a very big problem. Meron na nga daw mga crack dun sa pader ng SM kasi di pantay yun pag lubog ng lupa.

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    the only cities in MM that don't have this problem are those that lie on top of adobe rock ("guadalupe chyst", named after that outcrop of rock near edsa-guadalupe). these are makati, quezon city, san juan and mandaluyong.

    sir yebo, di ba dating swamp/marshland ung most of makati?


    Quote Originally Posted by kinyo
    any major construction must perform soil analysis to determine its characteristics ... some soils can be too soft that it might be uneconomical to build on it ... this is one problem delaying the construction of LRT for Cebu
    eh? i always had this impression that cebu has a solid limestone base(to which i unscientifically attributed the bitter tasting water). hindi pala?

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    #14
    share ko lang...pag nasa second floor or higher ka ng Harrison Plaza, minsan mararamdaman mong parang lumilindol. i'm not sure if the area is reclaimed or not, pero alam kong medyo malambot ang lupa dyan. pero after decades, a fire, and a major earthquake in 1990, knock on wood, wala namang nangyari. i think the structure has something to do with it din, mababa lang kasi sya compared to the other modern malls. mas malapad sya kesa sa mataas kumbaga.

    from what i hear from engineers/architects, you can build on soft soil so long as you drive enough pilings into the ground/foundation. pero i guess hindi all cases pwede.

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    call me pessimistic very hype up kasi ang lugar dyan, of course with all the sunset and fresh air, ambiance and environment, but for me, hopefully not, its a disaster waiting to happen ...
    cguro pagmalakas ang bagyo apektado sya ...

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    #16
    kakatakot naman iyan kung sakali tutuo iyan nasa email

    pero pag nag opening iyan for sure dami pa din tao

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    #17
    Sana ayusin nila yan, bago nila i-open for public yan. Kundi another disaster na naman yan.

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    #18
    I think there shouldnt be too much of a problem unless a major earthquake occurs (5.0 up).

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    pag nagkaron ng quake, baka ma-tsunami yan mall of asia or at least yun nasa 1st floor

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    #20
    Which made me conclude na there's something wrong nga sa kanila IMO. As I can see kasi, napansin ko kumpleto na yung mga tenants sa facade like mga fastfood chains with table, chairs, cash regs, etc. pero til now di pa rin open. Complete na din lightings nila as early as Dec coz kitang-kita sila during the Fireworks olympics. Hhhmmm..... i smell sumthing fishy.......

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