sm mall of asia lumulubog

[Altis6453]

Heard of the sinking SM Mall problem but the location was different. It was SM Marilao. The mall was built on a lot which was formerly a rice paddy.

[nicolodeon]

i think there's a truth to this. that part of the metropolis is reclaimed land. if my memory serves me right, i remember reading an article that says the contractors who dumped the soil did not pack-in the dirt tight enough.

however, tambak tends to settle in (sink) tighter only after a couple of years. rain and water that would be absorbed by the fill, once dried, would pack the soil in.

[mcbry]

if that is true then hingi nalang sila tulong sa japan katulad ng ginawa ng japan sa airport nila located sa reclamation area din.

sa tingin ko sanay narin yung SM na magtayo sa reclamation area. kasi yung sm cebu i think nakatayo din sa reclamation area. pati yung sa bacolod na sm inuumpisahan din yung construction sa reclamation area din.

[ghosthunter]

Same case with the Manila Film Center diba? Built on reclaimed land.

[baiskee]

Same case with the Manila Film Center diba? Built on reclaimed land.

yep..and even westin philippine plaza hotel.

[1D4LV]

actually, nothing to be worried about. as i've said above, reclaimed land tend to sink in a couple of inches every year because of the reason enumerated by nico (magkaidad ba tayo? hehehe).

but the gradual sink in can be remedied.

[flakez]

totoo daw yan. ung cousin ng gf ko magtratrabaho dapat sa isang fast food diyan. naglilipat na sila nung gamit sa store tapos nung isang araw pagpasok nila may mga sira ng lugar. nag liquifaction ung isang part. kung siguro daw nandon sila nung nangyari un malamang patay sila.

[RedHorse]

meanwhile, on Thursday, 30 March 2006 at 10:00pm

NG's Megastructures: Dubai's Palm Island

artificial island din naman ito ah....

[flakez]

meanwhile, on Thursday, 30 March 2006 at 10:00pm

NG's Megastructures: Dubai's Palm Island

artificial island din naman ito ah....

finishing na ba yan? ung napanood ko dati hindi pa tapos eh. parang ang sarap tumira diyan.

[RedHorse]

finishing na ba yan? ung napanood ko dati hindi pa tapos eh. parang ang sarap tumira diyan.

baka replay... 2008 pa completion. masarap tumira except summer he he he

[yebo]

soil liquifaction, same thing that happened in the city of dagupan during the 1991 earthquake. nagkaron ng instant basement lahat building man o bahay.

the old naia runway 6-24 was also sinking before (built on salt making beds or "asinan") until they decided to build a thicker runway. dapat expected na nila yan kasi alam naman nila na even the whole city of manila, pasay, paranaque, kalookan, malabon ang navotas are all built up from deposits from the many rivers that empty into manila bay. malalim ang bed rock (or kapal ng deposits), the soil deposit is not compacted and the water table is shallow (manila is 2 feet below sea level, duh!).

the only cities in MM that don't have this problem are those that lie on top of adobe rock ("guadalupe chyst", named after that outcrop of rock near edsa-guadalupe). these are makati, quezon city, san juan and mandaluyong.

[basti08]

have heard na bukas na daw...kakagulat naman eto...

pero kung totoo...kakatakot yan!

[pajerokid]

same with kansai. kaya lang ang bilis naman nitong sa sm

[jaeger]

if they drove the pile til it hit bed rock, dapat hindi mangyari ito. baka nag short-cut na naman yung contractor to save cost. but if this actually happened already, then just imagine the high possibility of liquefaction during an earthquake. parang marina area sa San Francisco that liquefied during the last major earthquake.

[kinyo]

if true na lumulubog ... edi pumalpak yung soil analysis nila

any major construction must perform soil analysis to determine its characteristics ... some soils can be too soft that it might be uneconomical to build on it ... this is one problem delaying the construction of LRT for Cebu

[boybi]

if true na lumulubog ... edi pumalpak yung soil analysis nila

any major construction must perform soil analysis to determine its characteristics ... some soils can be too soft that it might be uneconomical to build on it ... this is one problem delaying the construction of LRT for Cebu

yung SM Pampanga, after less than a year, lumubog ang mga flooring. they reconstructed it, pati almost lahat ng mga stalls.

[falken]

if true na lumulubog ... edi pumalpak yung soil analysis nila

any major construction must perform soil analysis to determine its characteristics ... some soils can be too soft that it might be uneconomical to build on it ... this is one problem delaying the construction of LRT for Cebu

Hindi siguro puwede soil analysis diyan kasi reclaimed land lang yan. Kung ano ano lang tinambak diyan.

[kinyo]

Hindi siguro puwede soil analysis diyan kasi reclaimed land lang yan. Kung ano ano lang tinambak diyan.

tambak or not ... engineers call it "soil" ... and soil analysis is required for any major project, primarily to determine its strength to carry the "load"

for a soft soil, one could widen the area of the support or drive several really lengthy pile to take advantage of friction or until it hits a solid bedrock

but then, a soil underneath moving into the sea because it is being pushed downward presents an even bigger problem and requires an even "bigger" (read "costly") solution ... sometimes the solution is too costly, the project must be abandoned

[falken]

if true na lumulubog ... edi pumalpak yung soil analysis nila

any major construction must perform soil analysis to determine its characteristics ... some soils can be too soft that it might be uneconomical to build on it ... this is one problem delaying the construction of LRT for Cebu

If palpak soil analysis nila, sino dapat managot? Contractor? or the one who performed the soil analysis?

[yomar]

If palpak soil analysis nila, sino dapat managot? Contractor? or the one who performed the soil analysis?

i think it will be the latter.