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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by driven View Post
    relocating the oil depot = increase in fuel prices;

    the farther the oil depot is from manila, the higher the increase in fuel prices

    huh!? if you're going to equat the prices of gas to the proximity of depot then how come the prices at gas station around the depot is the same with the stations in valenzuela or muntinlupa? diba dapat sobrang mura na lang yun rpices nila dahil malapit sila sa depot?

    Quote Originally Posted by GasJunkie View Post
    malacanang would be a nice choice. :spider:







    edit lots of open space in teh country
    edit2 prices would always go up, why are you worried???
    +10000000000
    Last edited by shadow; March 12th, 2007 at 11:54 AM.

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    #22
    It's quite unfair sa mga oil companies na yan kasi alam ko hindi pa residential yang lugar na yan ay nandyan na ang mga depot na yan. Hindi ba kasalanan ng gobyerno bakit pinayagan nila na magtayo ng mga bahay sa palibot ng mga depot

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by the josh View Post
    It's quite unfair sa mga oil companies na yan kasi alam ko hindi pa residential yang lugar na yan ay nandyan na ang mga depot na yan.
    To paraphrase the Supreme Court decision, the safety and welfare of human domicile should take greater precedence over human commerce.

    Besides, almost all of the various manufacturing facilities once located in Pandacan have long since transferred to other locations. Yung oil depot na lang talaga ang naiwan.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by GasJunkie View Post
    malacanang would be a nice choice. :spider:







    edit lots of open space in teh country
    edit2 prices would always go up, why are you worried???
    Worried I might not used the V6 anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    To paraphrase the Supreme Court decision, the safety and welfare of human domicile should take greater precedence over human commerce.

    Besides, almost all of the various manufacturing facilities once located in Pandacan have long since transferred to other locations. Yung oil depot na lang talaga ang naiwan.
    Bakit nga pinayagan ng gobyerno na tumira ang mga tao sa paligid nyan e unsafe nga. Kung pinagbawal nila e di walang problema ngayon

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    #26
    This is what the oil companies said:


    New oil depot in Manila Bay to cost P13B, says Petron official
    Source: ABS CBN News

    [SIZE=2]Major petroleum companies could spend as much as P13 billion to reclaim part of Manila Bay for the site of a new oil depot, a spokeswoman for Petron Corp. said Monday. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]Petron spokeswoman Virginia Ruivivar said Manila Bay remains the most logical choice for a new oil depot after the Supreme Court ordered oil firms to remove oil depots in Pandacan and Santa Ana. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]"Well, the most logical area is the Manila Bay area. We will probably have to reclaim, I don’t think there’s an available area," she told DZMM, adding that the location is far from residential areas. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]Ruivivar said oil companies could ship their products to the new oil depot from existing oil refineries in Bataan and Batangas. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]She added that representatives of Shell Philippines, Chevron (formerly Caltex) and Petron are set to meet with Manila Mayor Lito Atienza this week to discuss the transfer and clarify two overlapping city ordinances. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]Ordinance No. 8027 reclassified Pandacan area from an industrial to a commercial zone, effectively closing down the oil depots while Ordinance No. 8119 gave oil firms seven years to transfer their facilities to another area.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]"We just want him to enforce the second ordinance, which is really the one that superseded 8027. It is the new ordinance giving us seven years to relocate," Ruivivar said.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]In its decision, the Supreme Court said there is no legal impediment in enforcing Ordinance No. 8027, which reclassified portions of Pandacan and Sta. Ana districts from industrial to commercial zones. The ordinance directed Caltex, Petron and Pilipinas Shell to stop their operations in Pandancan within six months from its effectivity.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]The court said the ordinance was necessary to remove the risk of terrorist attack on the oil depot, which could lead to massive loss of life and property. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]"Ordinance No. 8027 was enacted right after the Philippines, along with the rest of the world, witnessed the horror of the Sept. 11, 2001 attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City," the high court said in a decision written by Justice Renato Corona.[/SIZE]

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by the josh View Post
    Bakit nga pinayagan ng gobyerno na tumira ang mga tao sa paligid nyan e unsafe nga. Kung pinagbawal nila e di walang problema ngayon
    AFAIK, the residential areas sprouted because of the factories, not in spite of them.

    The original residents of Pandacan were workers employed by the nearby factories, including the oil depots, way back during the American colonization era. And even as those industries left Pandacan one by one, the housing communities remained intact, which is why Pandacan now is more of a residential/commercial district, rather than an industrial area. And as mentioned, the danger that the oil depots pose to the community at large has only been emphasized even more after the events of 9/11.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; March 12th, 2007 at 02:54 PM.

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    Petron spokeswoman Virginia Ruivivar said Manila Bay remains the most logical choice for a new oil depot after the Supreme Court ordered oil firms to remove oil depots in Pandacan and Santa Ana.
    [SIZE=2]"Well, the most logical area is the Manila Bay area. We will probably have to reclaim, I don’t think there’s an available area," she told DZMM, adding that the location is far from residential areas. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]Ruivivar said oil companies could ship their products to the new oil depot from existing oil refineries in Bataan and Batangas.[/SIZE]
    imho, although they'll install all the high tech safety equipment/devices, back to square one pa rin tayo dito because they are just transferring the hazard that's still a threat to the residential/commercial district in the event of fire or explosion. also a potential threat to the marine environment... a massive oil spill.

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    #29
    Sabi ni Mayor Atienza sa Harbor Center daw located North of Tondo bagay ilipat ang oil depot which is also 1 to 1.5 kilometers away from residential areas

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    #30
    SC upholds transfer order of Manila oil depot


    By Tetch Torres
    INQUIRER.net
    First Posted 15:16:00 02/13/2008


    MANILA, Philippines -- The Supreme Court has upheld an ordinance by the Manila City government ordering the transfer of the oil depot housing three oil firms.
    In a 78-page resolution released Wednesday by the First Division, through Associate Justice Renato Corona, the high court dismissed the petition by Chevron, Petron Corp., and Pilipinas Shell against the local ordinance.
    The high tribunal also ordered the Manila mayor, in this case, Alfredo Lim, to oversee the relocation and transfer of the oil terminal from Pandacan.
    It asked the Manila regional trial court to ensure that the resolution would be strictly enforced.
    The high court gave the three oil companies a 90-day non-extendable period to submit before the Manila RTC their comprehensive plans and relocation schedules.


    Source: www.inquirer.net
    Feb.13, 2008

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