sana hindi n lang tyo pinaglaban ng ating mga bayani!!

[yuichi]

I doubt it. Most Chinese I've met here have a tradition for work ethics and for quietly building a fortune (either by saving or having 2 jobs). I've never seen them badmouth another Chinese, not even when a lithe, gorgeous Chinese girl walked in with a caucasian boyfriend at a chinese restaurant.

By contrast, while having lunch at the Pilipino Store..... A young pretty Pinay (who also spoke her english with a perfect US accent) walked in with her white GI boyfriend. The mumbling and hostile glances that followed were deafening and a few customers even left with half-eaten lunches. My wife and I just just looked at each other and shook our heads, wondering what's wrong with these people.

chinese are different in every places....most locals here are rude, impolite,uncourteous....ayaw ko nang dagdagan pa..malayo sila sa mga fil-chinese sa pinas.

[empy]

hmmm...ano nga ba ang pinagkaiba ng billiards sa snooker :confused:

[yuichi]

hmmm...ano nga ba ang pinagkaiba ng billiards sa snooker :confused:

billiards or commonly known as pool, as an american sport..while snooker is for the english.
just like soccer, baseball, american football in the US .....they r football, cricket and rugby in europe, respectively.

[mazdamazda]

we alraedy tried and still trying every solutions, been into martial law, had people power(s), coup attempts, chacha,etc....but to no success!trial and error kasi gobyerno natin!

compared to other developed and developing nations, our country's history is still a small footnote compared to them.

the chinese (mainland china, hk, taiwan, singapore)? their civilization has existed for thousands of years. it is pretty interesting to see four flavors of chinese countries existing today... yet each of them are economic powerhouses.

the americans? they've fought a war of independence, a bitter civil war, and most importantly - won world war II by fighting two fronts (europe & pacific).

the europeans? their forefathers were already discussing philosophy while are ancestors have yet to arrive here in the Philippines.

bottomline is... there is no shortcut to being a great nation. all of the developed nations nowadays have experienced corruption, famine, war, etc.

[niky]

[size=4]Crab Mentality[/size] is a misnomer. If we say that this typifies Filipinos, we are ignoring the root cause of it.

Fact is: We are not a nation. We are a group of people from over seven thousand separate islands, each one of us originally from a different tribe, ethnic group, sultanate or religion. Though we may have been molded by the Spanish into the semblance of a nation, those deep-rooted differences remain. The Spanish did nothing to change this, as it was in their interest that we remain disunited. And the Spanish never had complete control of the Philippines anyway.

The revolutionary movement against the Spanish showed this most clearly, disjointed, often at odds with each other, sometimes murderously so.

Today, we are still a tribal people by heart. We staunchly defend our ka-tribu, whether they be family, friends or a preferred politician (saw this with Erap, we see it now with GMA); to the death, even if we know that they are in the wrong, and must be punished.

And if someone isn't part of our "tribe", we don't give them as much respect as we would otherwise. That's crab mentality... simply the Filipino's clannish nature extended to our dealings with our fellow men.

It could be worse. Other countries brought together from separate tribes and peoples have suffered violent histories and upheavals. We have never experienced the genocides of Cambodia or Laos, or the open warfare of Iraqi sectarian violence in the capitol. But not so long ago, our country was fighting wars on many local fronts, against the Russian and Chinese funded CPP-NPA, against rebels for control of the Cordilleras, the MNLF and MILF for control of Mindanao.

[size=4]We are not a country[/size]. We are dozens of different tribes bundled together and thrown under one roof. And as long as we still think like that, we cannot progress as a nation.

[Jun aka Pekto]

And if someone isn't part of our "tribe", we don't give them as much respect as we would otherwise. That's crab mentality... simply the Filipino's clannish nature extended to our dealings with our fellow men.

That's still very true. Just look at my mom. She's threatened to disown me if I don't leave my "Bisayan" wife. I'm so ashamed of the low opinion she's expressed of anyone from the Visayas. But, she's been willing to risk a divided family for such a silly concept and it's been this way for a while now. But, she's my mom. What can I do? Bodily harm is certainly out of the question. The only option for me is to exile myself from my mom unless I leave my wife which isn't going to happen.

Sounds petty. But, magnify many times the different pettiness (among Pinoys) and it really adds up to a serious problem. Unity among all Pinoys seems very distant.

[oldblue]

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[size=4]We are not a country[/size]. We are dozens of different tribes bundled together and thrown under one roof. And as long as we still think like that, we cannot progress as a nation.

right. and we have dialects to prove it. language pa lang, one of the oldest form of communication, may problema pa din tayo.

[Chip]

niky nailed it right on the head

I have also experienced this form 'discrimination'. I studied high school in the provinces and usually the people from the metro would notice my accent when speaking tagalog and some would then proceed to treat me condescendingly.

Some even go so far as to ask kung may kotse ba samin etc (but the majority who ask this are those who are uneducated or misinformed). Ano akala nila? Naka kalabaw kami papasok ng school? Mind you, the province I'm from is cebu and bacolod. lol
Minsan nakakairita, minsan nakakatawa.

Sometimes I am so tempted to tell them what cars I used to ride to school pero baka sabihing mayabang tayo. In my mind i just think to these people, kawawa naman kayo, you don't know any better, kaya din di umaasenso ang pinas kasi akala nyo Metro Manila is the center of the universe. This insular mentality is the reason why we are not a nation as niky said. kanya kanya e.

And one other thing, ugali talaga ng pinoy and magiging madugas at judgemental sa kapwa pinoy like jun has said. Dito, pumunta kaim ng kaibigan ko sa pinoy restaurant, uminom, ayun pagdating ng bill ang daming dagdag na di naman namin inorder. Ayaw pa magpatalo yung may-ari. e di binayaran nalang para iwas gulo.

Another time, may kasama kaming pinay who has been here less than a year. Aba di na marunong mag tagalog. ayus hehe

[yuichi]

niky nailed it right on the head

I have also experienced this form 'discrimination'. I studied high school in the provinces and usually the people from the metro would notice my accent when speaking tagalog and some would then proceed to treat me condescendingly.

Some even go so far as to ask kung may kotse ba samin etc (but the majority who ask this are those who are uneducated or misinformed). Ano akala nila? Naka kalabaw kami papasok ng school? Mind you, the province I'm from is cebu and bacolod. lol
Minsan nakakairita, minsan nakakatawa.

Sometimes I am so tempted to tell them what cars I used to ride to school pero baka sabihing mayabang tayo. In my mind i just think to these people, kawawa naman kayo, you don't know any better, kaya din di umaasenso ang pinas kasi akala nyo Metro Manila is the center of the universe. This insular mentality is the reason why we are not a nation as niky said. kanya kanya e.

And one other thing, ugali talaga ng pinoy and magiging madugas at judgemental sa kapwa pinoy like jun has said. Dito, pumunta kaim ng kaibigan ko sa pinoy restaurant, uminom, ayun pagdating ng bill ang daming dagdag na di naman namin inorder. Ayaw pa magpatalo yung may-ari. e di binayaran nalang para iwas gulo.

Another time, may kasama kaming pinay who has been here less than a year. Aba di na marunong mag tagalog. ayus hehe

same experience with me...when i moved to meycauayan to study HS from pampnga..katakottakot na lait ang inabot ko...mabilis daw ako mgasalita at may accent pa....which is true. nakakaloko ang tingin ng mga kakalase ko non at lagi ako pinagtitripan sa klase...pero d nmn lahat sympre. pinababayaan ko lng sila....then i proved myself and gained respect by being one of the topnotch student in our year level, school leader and being a school artist......panis!!

[FrankDrebin]

Pinoy lang ba ang ganoon sa buong mundo?

[Jun aka Pekto]

Pinoy lang ba ang ganoon sa buong mundo?

Nope. But, since the focus is on Pinoys...... might as well dissect and put to close scrutiny the issues that divide us all.

[cutedoc]

OT nakakatawa subalit...

1. lagi nating sinasabi na tayo'y magpaka "pinoy" ngunit sa ating pagsasalita di maikukubling nagmamayabang tayong tayos me dilang kano
2. pinalayas natin nag base sa subic at clark pero hanggang ngayon humihingi tayo ng tulong sa gobyerno ng amerika
3. kinukutya natin ang mga dayuhang mangangalakal tulad ng tsino at bumbay, ngunit sila ang kinukunan natin ng produkto indi ang sariling atin

[uls]

and those really "bright" nationalists in govt wanted to abandon english altogether and have schools teach every subject in tagalog... para nationalistic daw...

tapos ngaun kelangan mag english ang mga tao kasi in demand ang call center agents...

haha... nasan na ung pagiging nationalistic? pera pera lang pala... American twang na

[oldblue]

since we're tribal by nature, buti na lang hindi tayo naging katulad ng Africa. doon ubusan ng lahi talaga. I guess we have to thank Christianity for that.

and for Manila as center of the universe: ano ba talaga naging role ng Visayas during the Spanish occupation? this history is still vague to me. the only thing I can remember was Magellan first set foot in Cebu, after that ano na ba nangyari?

were they involved with the KKK, kasi wala naman phone and transpo noon. kabayo lang ata. and I doubt if mga visayans nakaka-sail ng madali to Manila knowing na may mga spanish forts.

sa KKK nga ata nagka internal problem din ang taga-Manila, Cavite saka Pampanga. and to think ang lapit-lapit lang nila.

[yuichi]

minsan napapanood daw ng dati kong chinese-canadian boss yung mga gula sa politika sa pinas..magulo daw sa liit ng pinas. oo nga nman, eh halos kasing laki lang nmn ng guangdong provrince ang pinas pero "sangkatutak" ang mga politiko, mayor,councilor, congressman, may sk pa at brgy council...where as guangdong has only a governor, v.gov, mayor, v.mayor at head ng kada dept nila...pero gereally maayos, developing at maganda security...
anyway going back, nagcomment sya na..." it seems your government people 'only speak good english' ah?"....kakahiya!!!

[miLes]

minsan napapanood daw ng dati kong chinese-canadian boss yung mga gula sa politika sa pinas..magulo daw sa liit ng pinas. oo nga nman, eh halos kasing laki lang nmn ng guangdong provrince ang pinas pero "sangkatutak" ang mga politiko, mayor,councilor, congressman, may sk pa at brgy council...where as guangdong has only a governor, v.gov, mayor, v.mayor at head ng kada dept nila...pero gereally maayos, developing at maganda security...
anyway going back, nagcomment sya na..." it seems your government people 'only speak good english' ah?"....kakahiya!!!

haha kaya if you're going to bribe, mas magastos dito kasi lahat yun ibribribe mu ;)

dapat nga kontian lang politiko dito, easier to pinpoint who's corrupt hehe

[oldblue]

sana nga manila isang governor na lang tulad ng dati