Russia's 'invasion and occupation' of Ukrainian territory.

[Dr.Kamiya]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCqTgNukJlU

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25 minutes of talking and he can't explain why Germany seems hesitant to provide all out support to ukraine

[Egan101]

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25 minutes of talking and he can't explain why Germany seems hesitant to provide all out support to ukraine

I guess Germany is not too eager to find itself in another war with Russia. In WW2, the Germans were brutal in its campaign against Russia and Russia willingly returned it when the Germans retreated.


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[tsupermario]

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I guess Germany is not too eager to find itself in another war with Russia. In WW2, the Germans were brutal in its campaign against Russia and Russia willingly returned it when the Germans retreated.


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it's more on Germany looking into the future

they don't want to sever ties with Russia that's why they're hesitant in sending lethal weapons to ukraine

they need to look like they're cooperating with the US by sending stuff to ukraine but they need to hold back so as not to anger russia too much

keep in mind (before the invasion) things were going well with Germany and Russia



the design was -- the German economy will be powered by cheap Russian gas

it was the perfect partnership... and the US hated it

then this war happened at nasira ang plano

but Germany is still hoping after this war, pwede ma-rekindle ang relationship with russia

that's why Germany is behaving in this strange manner

on one hand, they're part of NATO and obliged to help ukraine fight russia

on the other hand, they don't wanna help fight russia too much coz they still wanna be friends later

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the US knows this that's why the Nordstream pipelines were destroyed

although the one responsible for that was never determined, everybody knows who did it

it's like the US is telling Germany:

"we know you're hoping your relationship with russia will resume"

"we're going to eliminate the very thing that's giving you hope"

[tsupermario]

germany: trade with russia = peace

russian invasion of ukraine = russia -> biggest threat to european security

poland: told you so

The war in Ukraine has exposed the truth about Russia. Those who refused to see that Putin’s state has imperialist tendencies today have to face the fact that in Russia, the demons of the 19th and 20th centuries were revived: nationalism, colonialism, and totalitarianism. But the war in Ukraine has also exposed the truth about Europe. Many European leaders allowed themselves to be lured by Vladimir Putin and today are in a shock.

The return of Russian imperialism should come as no surprise. Russia had been rebuilding its position slowly for almost two decades right under the eye of the West. Meanwhile, the West went for a geopolitical slumber instead of maintaining reasonable vigilance. It preferred not to see the increasing problem rather than face it in advance.

Europe today is in such a situation not because it was insufficiently integrated, but because it refused to listen to the voice of truth. The voice has been coming from Poland for many years. Poland has no monopoly on the truth, but in matters of relations with Russia we are simply far more experienced than others.

[EQAddict]

The Nord stream 2 pipeline was destroyed by the Russians themselves so they can claim force majeur in their contracts.

The swedish and norwegian navies showed 2 russians warships in the area when it happened.

This war is the BEST thing that ever happened to Germany.

1) weaning themselves of russian energy = no more ass kissing because of blackmail!

2) doubling defense spending to give the middle finger to russia and her bootlickers

3) sending older weapon systems that are about to be decomissioned anways and watch them tear the Russians a new arsehole

4) see Nato strengthened, revitalized and refocused.

5) we are seeing the brutality and true nature of Russia. Externally and internally. The murders of oligarchs who oppose Putin. The silencing of dissent. The blatant lies and blackmail. Threats of nuclear war from everyone in their propaganda machine, to their 2nd in command, to members of their Duma. The murder of civilians and the infrastructure terrorization of Ukranian civilians. Glad to know who here is allied with them and their values.




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[Athrunzala]

The Nord stream 2 pipeline was destroyed by the Russians themselves so they can claim force majeur in their contracts.

This does not make sense. The Russians stand to profit billions of dollars from the continuous sale of their natural gas through the Nord Stream pipeline. So they burned their own cash cow?

[EQAddict]

It wasnt operational. It was never certified . And because of the war...the Germans were never going to use it (they are pivoting to other energy suppliers and sources). Nord Stream 2 had Germany in Russia's energy grip and both sides new it. That was the calculus of Putin. And he was wrong... And now Germany is out of it's grip

And the Russians blew up it up to:

1) claim force majeur so they wouldnt be held to financial penalties in their contracts (remember they were the ones who turned the taps off and blackmailed the west)

2) show the other intelligence services and govts that their own infrastructure (i.e. pipelines, internet undersea cabling, etc) isnt safe . Again...the Russians have shown a clear strategy to destroy energy infrastructure in Ukraine and even hold hostage nuclear power plants. Or maybe they are being forced i to these tactics because of the evil west . Yeah...im shelling a nuclear powerplant because the Americans made me do it.

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