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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    buti nalang nung 2002 hindi na naging requirement yung rotc. kasi kung required pa rin siya hindi ako makakagraduate ng college dahil hindi ko siya kinuha.

    for me ayoko ibalik yan. sunday is a family day. mon-sat na nag aaral mga estudyante tapos mag rotc pa ng sunday..

    wag na irequire.. kusang loob nalang

  2. Join Date
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    another source of corruption, ito aminin ko na never attended any ROTC nun college ako, naghanap ako ng contact at naglagay na lang ako....UST '94-'98

    useless eh wala naman akon planong mag sundalo.....

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    let's be realistic: when the country is attacked, do you really expect anyone to show up?

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    worst unit in college.sayang lang oras ko dyan.

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    Onga panget to, tapos ung mga mayayabang na mga leaders ng ROTC paglabas naman ng school takot sa mga fratboys. Hanggang field lang mayabang. Dami magkakasakit nyan lalo na yung mga mahina ung katawan.

    If hindi naman mandatory yan, I'm almost sure na bilang na bilang ang mag-join (say 5-10 students).

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    ROTC was a spectacular waste of time (UST '97-'98 ang ROTC ko).

    Source of corruption pa (naglagay lang kabarkada ko) and kinamatay pa ng isang UST journalist nung ma-expose ang corruption.

    It's a Sunday morning, it's supposed to be church/family day. Yung ibang students uuwi pa ng probinsya, sayang din ang half day na inaksaya kaka-martsa sa damo.

    Yung mga officer puro porma lang. hehehe.

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    Depende siguro sa school and sa student na rin.

    Kami, nasa dugo na talaga namin ang sundalo. My old relatives kill criminals like chickens. Some of my uncles are still in service, some are in the Police, some are in the Military. Most of their sons followed their paths.

    In UPD, i became part of the Rayadillo, UP's elite squad. 3x a week ang training. Nakakapagod pero it's worth it. Masaya e.

    I was supposed to enter PMA, no sweat but i got hooked on different things.

    Up to now, somehow, i still regret that i didn't become a soldier because of my nature to fight for the weak and give justice.

    So for me, ok lang ang ROTC.

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    Ano ba ang nagbago sa rason nila upang tanggalin ang ROTC na baliktad na ngayon???

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    let's be realistic: when the country is attacked, do you really expect anyone to show up?
    I would.

    I'd gladly fight and die so that my family can live in freedom.

    It goes without saying that I wouldn't mind a return of mandatory ROTC, but it has to be a no-nonsense program that will really enable our youth to gain the minimum level of skills and discipline that they would need in the event of a draft or call to active duty. Moreover, it should include components that foster greater patriotism and civic involvement.

    For example, a friend of mine, who graduated from college a long time ago, is now an active member of the naval reserve. He undergoes continuous training, and participates in rescue and relief operations during times of calamities as a member of his reserve group.

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    Sad.

    With the general consensus here, for sure, Philippines will be on its knees in less than an hour when war comes.

    This also goes to show that ROTC really depends on the school.

    I think, there should be a standard procedure for this. Much better if training is not in schools but rather in Army camps.

    The problem with school enforced ROTC is, some ROTC commanders are not really from the Army, some are just gay pencil pushers who doesn't know anything.

    NSTP is not in anyway close to ROTC, back then being in CWS, community service, is really degrading because it's where gays and weaklings are assigned. I reckon NSTP must be close to it.

    It's sad that people discard what our forefathers died for in the past. It seems, almost everyone just doesn't care about the country anymore and yet keeps on complaining how the government is run when they themselves have nothing to offer.

  11. Join Date
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    #11
    Nung high school pa ako,well disciplined at strict ang CAT course namin, halos kalbo na ang gupit namin, walang exception pati na school basketball team players Di ko malimutan tinalo namin ang ilan schools kasama na ang Phil College of Criminology sa competition Pero pag dating sa college, bulok ang systema ng CMT, papabili sayo soft drinks, benta ng tickets, kwentuhan etc. kaya nawalan ako ng gana.

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    sa mga nababasa ko dito naaawa ako sa mga kababaihan at mga anak nating pag sinakop tayo ng ibang bansa.

    napakadali pala nating makalimot. eh di kung ganun pati na rin ang pambansang awit wag na alng natin kakantahin kahit sa sine. eh kung di naman tayo handa diba?

    tsk tsk. kaya lumaganap din ang lagay na tinutukoy sa UST eh kasi ang mga estudyante din mismo ang nag bayad. kung di sila nag bayad at sinabi sa mga kurakot at pag-tiyagaan na lang nila ang kaunting sakripisyo na wala man lang sa kalingkingan na nadanas ng mga ROTC cadets na nagtanggol sa Bataan at Corregidor para sa kanilang kalayaan...ay...baka matauhan ang mga kurakot na sundalo.

    i remember yung sabi kasi ng lolo ko na nag death march at naging POW at nakatakas at naging guerilla. Ginawa daw niya lahat na yun para sa amin na di pa pinapanganak nun. ROTC cadet lang siya nun.

  13. Join Date
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    I'm forced to buy a sandwich which you can barely see the content. Same thing with "unknown" juice drinks.
    Teka, sa UST ka din ba nag ROTC? :lol:

    If ROTC wants to make a comeback, it better shape up or else it migh just get shipped out again. Kung puro corruption pa din wala din kwenta. Maganda lang in theory (let's save the country, etc.) pero when you're actually there on the field counting the blades of grass and zapping ants with a magnifying glass to pass the time, it doesn't seem that much fun. Especially when your officers are just in their airconditioned office shouting through a PA.

    At least UST ROTC had a Sunday mass. Of course some of my classmates came from different denominations so it was also a waste of time for them.

    Nung 2nd year ko sa ROTC, LES na ko (law enforcement service). Nag-iba lang yung pangalan pero wala din nagbago. Wait, meron pala, sa LES sa aspalto na kami nakaupo imbis na sa damo. hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Sad.

    With the general consensus here, for sure, Philippines will be on its knees in less than an hour when war comes.

    This also goes to show that ROTC really depends on the school.

    I think, there should be a standard procedure for this. Much better if training is not in schools but rather in Army camps.

    The problem with school enforced ROTC is, some ROTC commanders are not really from the Army, some are just gay pencil pushers who doesn't know anything.
    I agree. ROTC should be taken away from schools. Let all the training be administered by a cadre of army/marine regulars and at military installations. Instead of being part of a school curriculum, ROTC will become a periodic obligation from 21 until say, 45 for both male and female.

    As for lying idly around, we normally did when were in the school campus. But, whenever we went to Camp Aguinaldo and its huge parade ground, there's always someone in the ranks who suggested the officers march us around or at least let us march ourselves around with someone from the ranks moving up and calling cadence. And we were happy to march around because the morning went by really fast. The officers were more than happy to oblige us. But, if we were training at the school campus with that tiny parking lot, all we could do was stand in formation.

    Plus I don't know how it is now. But, whenever I commuted home after CAT, I always got nods of approval from bus drivers and passengers......gave me that nice comfy feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    I agree. ROTC should be taken away from schools. Let all the training be administered by a cadre of army/marine regulars and at military installations. Instead of being part of a school curriculum, ROTC will become a periodic obligation from 21 until say, 45 for both male and female.

    As for lying idly around, we normally did when were in the school campus. But, whenever we went to Camp Aguinaldo and its huge parade ground, there's always someone in the ranks who suggested the officers march us around or at least let us march ourselves around with someone from the ranks moving up and calling cadence. And we were happy to march around because the morning went by really fast. The officers were more than happy to oblige us. But, if we were training at the school campus with that tiny parking lot, all we could do was stand in formation.

    Plus I don't know how it is now. But, whenever I commuted home after CAT, I always got nods of approval from bus drivers and passengers......gave me that nice comfy feeling.
    You have a good attitude.

ROTC balak i-require ulit