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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Maganda naman ang intention eh, but palpak ung pagka implement, dapat talaga naka anchor yung mga pink fences na yan, tsaka dapat malalaking bakal ang gamitin diyan, para pag sinadyang banggain ng mga gagong bus drivers, mawasak ang buses nila.

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    #2
    IMHO, it's "combustible" mixture of things: the fence, the undisciplined PUV and PV drivers, the pedestrians, the number of vehicles traveling along EDSA, the traffic people (those who cause traffic and those who declog traffic), the width of the road (proper urban planning decades ago would probably have solved this), the malls (everytime SM North or SM Megamall has a sale, the traffic worsens), the condition of the roads (altough DPWH started doing something about this), plus some other factor that I might have skipped.

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    #3
    It works both ways.

    Madami sa may section ng edsa to magallanes from ayala private cars pupunta sa pang yellow lane dahil sa traffic. Wala rin kc nanghuhuli dun.

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    #4
    ang magandang tanong dyan, baket pa kinailangan pang magkaroon ng pink fences? why would anyone think about putting them up in the first place? 'coz a lot of people -- PUV drivers, private car owners, pedestrians, etc. -- don't have enough self-discipline, kaya we need someone to enforce the law.

    i don't agree with a lot of BF's ideas, but at least he's doing something about the traffic problem. just wish he'd consult some more people before doing it...

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    #5
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk
    ang magandang tanong dyan, baket pa kinailangan pang magkaroon ng pink fences? why would anyone think about putting them up in the first place? 'coz a lot of people -- PUV drivers, private car owners, pedestrians, etc. -- don't have enough self-discipline, kaya we need someone to enforce the law.

    i don't agree with a lot of BF's ideas, but at least he's doing something about the traffic problem. just wish he'd consult some more people before doing it...
    Correct!

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by chris_d
    It works both ways.

    Madami sa may section ng edsa to magallanes from ayala private cars pupunta sa pang yellow lane dahil sa traffic. Wala rin kc nanghuhuli dun.
    Yup, but buses are way bigger than cars therefore occupy more space coupled with these thick skinned drivers who occupy 2, 3 or sometimes 4 lanes to get passengers, we have a traffic nightmare. I've seen some buses who are half, sometimes carry 1/4 or their full capacity, something must be done about this but I'm not hoping for the best.

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    #7
    On the other hand, on the SLEX the concrete barriers do help in some cases. But not these pink pences. They couldnt even add reflectors! Somebody may have earned millions through these deals.

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    #8
    IMHO, they have the yellow lane laws turned around. Buses stay on yellow lanes, not everyone else stay off.

    Gaddamnit, nadale ako ng p*tang-*nang fence na yan kagabi... I understand needing to keep traffic confined to the proper lanes, but providing absolutely NO TURN-OFFs for four kilometers of Cubao!!???!!! It's absolute madness!!! I had to travel an extra six or seven kilometers to get back to my apartment... ONE hour in traffic for a trip that was actually less than a kilometer. I was so disgusted I wanted to park in the middle of EDSA and walk home.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #9
    saw the pink fence ruined the cars kanina sa news.

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    #10
    para sa akin it's the implementation of Law yan. if the law is strictly implemented, people just have to abide. take for example, tayong mga pinoy pag napupunta to other countries like Singapore, di ba we follow the rules kasi nga takot tayong ma fine a ma preso, it is because of the strict enforcement of the law. no corruption is allowed, i mean walang lagay. pag naglagay ka, puwede kang arestuhin ng pulis for bribery. just for my 2 cents

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    #11
    walang kasalanan ang pink fences, dapat sisihin ay yun bus na sinadyang banggain ito. Ang pink fences ay para madiscourage ang mga commuters na sumakay at bumaba. Wala talaga tayong disiplina. Bakit sa ibang bansa ayus naman ang traffic system nila, Kasi may disiplina sila, kawawa naman tayo

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    #12
    chris_d

    if im not mistaken, MMDA has the means/ppl/logistcis to make the fences themselves, the only thing ata kailangan nila is your raw bakal at paint.

    Akala ko bus ang bumabanga sa Fences? kaya natutumba? baka gusto nila lanyan ng 1 ton concrete slab kagaya sa roxas?

    tragis talaga yan mga bus drivers.


    we know firsthand mga bus naman talaga nag papatrik, not because because malaki sila, but because sila nag crecreate ng chokepoints/bottlenecks, pag huhinto sila.

    take for example sa baba ng fly over/ edsa shaw intersec, sa tapat ng Shagrila. tragis hihinto sila o bagal bagalan nila takbo nila para antayin mag red para maka kuha sila sa tapat sa edsa central, pag go or green na bagalbagal nila ulit para pag red sa stop light, wala bubusina sa kanila pag hininto sila o i clog nila yung tapat ng shangrila.

    style nila ganyan lagi, pabagal bagal para abutan ng red para maka kuha pasehero,

    pag may pink fences, lalo kakaunti ng points ng bantayan ng MMDA para sa mga style nila.
    Last edited by Mojo; March 17th, 2005 at 11:27 PM.

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    #13
    may kasalanan ang mga fence. Kasalanan nila pink sila! aahahaha

    well, another experiment that went down the drain. Isa pang experiment ang nde ko magets. U-turns. minsan lalong napapatagal travel because of it. Some roads are better off without the uturns i think. pero back to the pink fences!!

    BF treats filipino motorists na parang mga bata kase sa totoo naman talaga para tayong mga bata. kelangan pa ng "guide" para lang matuto.

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    #14
    Maganda ang fencing concept, flawed ang excution, gusto ng mmda flexibility kaya gtumamit sila ng light weight fences, kaya ayun sinasadya bangain, pero tingnan natin 1 ton slabs, ehhehe siguro titino yan.


    yung uturn scheme effective sana, kaso lang yung iban intersection sa dami dumadaan fly over na kailangan hehehehe, yun ang tumatagal.

    pero if consider it sa overall effective sya,

    hahah tama ka dun tsinita, ganun talaga turing nila sa motorista, mga batang pasaway, pero totoo naman 95% sa motorista pasaway. hehehe

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    #15
    Nabasa ko online na binubunggo ng mga buses ang steel fences para masira! Mga ta***tado talaga itong mga bus drivers! Dapat concrete material ang ginamit nila kagaya ng mga ginagamit sa roadblocks!He he he!!

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    #16
    Napanood ko sa news yun daw pink fence ang bumangga sa bus! kasalanan talaga nung fence.

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    #17
    I don't know if you guys will agree but I have two (2) draconian solutions to the PUV discipline problem:

    1. Caning - for reckless and habitual violators of traffic laws (at least 10 lashes for every violation)

    2. Castration - instead of license revocation (to prevent their ilk from propagating)

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    #18
    ....super strict implementation lang yan. diba nga mga pinoy sa ibang bansa takot lumabag sa batas? problema kasi madali sindakin mga MMDA eh. dapat ata dito sa pinas ang traffic law enforcers mga retired u.s. marines o navy seals.

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    #19
    ok pala trabaho nitong si fernando ah. palaro-laro na lang sa mga kalsada ng manila...parang sim city

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    #20
    wahahaha simcity4!

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