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    Specifically daw sa city of manila mataas daw tubig kaya prone to liquefaction.

    Buti dito sa place ko eh adobe daw lupa.

    To geologist yatta. Adobe na ba pinakamaganda pagtayuan or ano pa ba mas ok na lupa and saan location?


    Phivolcs: Metro Manila areas prone to liquefaction



    Helen Flores (The Philippine Star) - April 25, 2019 - 12:00am

    MANILA, Philippines — Some areas in Metro Manila are prone to liquefaction or the loosening of waterlogged soil underground, blamed largely for the tilting or collapse of many buildings in Dagupan City in Pangasinan during the killer earthquake in July 1990.

    Science Undersecretary and Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) director Renato Solidum Jr. issued the warning to explain what may have caused the Emilio Aguinaldo College (EAC) building in Manila to move and lean toward an adjacent building during the magnitude 6.1 earthquake last Monday.

    The 1990 Luzon earthquake killed over 1,600 people, mostly in Baguio City, Pangasinan and Nueva Ecija.

    Phivolcs defines liquefaction as “a phenomenon, when loosely consolidated sediment soil deposits lose their strength and appear to flow as fluids.”

    Solidum, a geologist, confirmed that the area of EAC – located on San Marcelino Street in Ermita – is prone to liquefaction.

    The official, however, was uncertain whether liquefaction really triggered the tilting of the building.

    He said liquefaction could be triggered by an intensity 7 quake. Manila, he said, felt the tremor last Monday at intensity 5.

    There were no other reported signs of liquefaction such as cracks on the roads and water and sand shooting upward from crevasses on the ground, he added.

    “Definitely, (the EAC area) is prone to liquefaction, but it (tilting of the building) could also be due to (poor) foundation and design of the building,” Solidum told The STAR.

    He said liquefaction could be addressed with proper design of the edifice.

    Public Works Secretary Mark Villar has asked school officials not to utilize the building anymore.

    The earthquake came at a time when Manila and Pasay were preparing for massive reclamation projects in Manila Bay.

    These projects include Horizon Manila, the New Manila Bay International Community, the Solar City urban center and the expansion of the Manila Harbour Center in Tondo.

    Fisherfolk and environmental groups are strongly protesting the Manila Bay reclamation projects, saying these will result in severe flooding if they push through.

    In an article published in The STAR in 2013, Filipino-American geologist Kelvin Rodolfo said it might not need even a strong earthquake to cause serious damage to or destroy reclaimed areas in Manila Bay.

    He said in 1968, a magnitude 7.3 earthquake in Casiguran, Quezon destroyed many structures built on river deposits near the mouth of the Pasig River. The six-story Ruby Tower in Binondo collapsed, killing 260 people. He said Casiguran was 225 kilometers away from Manila.

    Disaster officials, meanwhile, reported earthquake damage in Muntinlupa and Pasay.

    Cupang Bridge, which also traverses Baybayin Road, had “tilting column piers” and “buckled column piers,” according to the initial damage assessment report prepared by the Muntinlupa Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (MDRRMO) last Tuesday.

    Cracks between three and six inches wide were also found on the façade of Barangay Sucat hall. Cracks were also detected on the walls of smaller buildings nearby.

    The façade of the Pasay City General Hospital also sustained some damage, according to Salvador Villarin III, head for operations of the city government’s engineering office. – With Ghio Ong
    Read more at https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...YAzttldzS5Z.99

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    The cities of Manila, Malabon, Valenzuela, Pasay, Parañaque and several Cavite cities on the fringes of Manila Bay are land formed from the deltas of various rivers. These are all aluvial deposits where liquifaction can occur.

    On the other hand the cities of Quezon City, Marikina, Pasig, San Juan, Mandaluyong and Makati are all on top of what is called the "Guadalupe Schist", named after that big rock formation you see on Guadalupe on the Pasig river. This rock was from volcanic deposits of ash that have been compacted and formed the "adobe" and "escombro" that you now find when you dig under these cities. Escombro is not adobe but the softer less compacted version of it, normally found on top of the adobe.

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    From the same article...

    He said liquefaction could be triggered by an intensity 7 quake. Manila, he said, felt the tremor last Monday at intensity 5.

    There were no other reported signs of liquefaction such as cracks on the roads and water and sand shooting upward from crevasses on the ground, he added.

    “Definitely, (the EAC area) is prone to liquefaction, but it (tilting of the building) could also be due to (poor) foundation and design of the building,” Solidum told The STAR.

    He said liquefaction could be addressed with proper design of the edifice.
    It's poor design of the building. A quick search will show you that some countries' building codes have been updated to mitigate liquefaction.

    IMO, EAC/DPWH/Manila City should investigate how the building was approved and who designed the building.

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    pag nag big one sa NCR sigurado breakdown of law and order yan

    mad max dystopia

    violence, looting and all

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pag nag big one sa NCR sigurado breakdown of law and order yan

    mad max dystopia

    violence, looting and all
    Kaya dapat kayo lagi kayo maging fit

    Ive watched all the seasons of Walking dead (walking zombie apocalypse) , The Last Ship (virus apocalypse),The Strain (vampire apocalypse) , Black Summer (running zombie apocalypse) , Jericho (nuclear apocalypse)

    Hinde ako nanonood nyan to be like Rick Grimes or Carol, kasi cheesy characters

    I wanted to be like Shane, The Governor and Neegan.


    Ngaun pa lang meron na ako enforcer tiga south, Si Kuya Big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    The cities of Manila, Malabon, Valenzuela, Pasay, Parañaque and several Cavite cities on the fringes of Manila Bay are land formed from the deltas of various rivers. These are all aluvial deposits where liquifaction can occur.

    On the other hand the cities of Quezon City, Marikina, Pasig, San Juan, Mandaluyong and Makati are all on top of what is called the "Guadalupe Schist", named after that big rock formation you see on Guadalupe on the Pasig river. This rock was from volcanic deposits of ash that have been compacted and formed the "adobe" and "escombro" that you now find when you dig under these cities. Escombro is not adobe but the softer less compacted version of it, normally found on top of the adobe.
    Is Taguig or just BGC also sitting on this rock?

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    Dream, dating base yan BGC, malamanag madami tunnels dyan , kaya nga wala lelectrical lines dyan kasi pinadaan nanila sa escape tunnels kuryente lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pag nag big one sa NCR sigurado breakdown of law and order yan

    mad max dystopia

    violence, looting and all
    swertihan na lang. pag natapat at the wrong place yun na.

    si ob napapaligiran ng maraming food at tubig tapos nasa game room lang na wala sa high rise kaya no prob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Is Taguig or just BGC also sitting on this rock?

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    BGC i know has adobe underneath. Taguig and Muntinlupa no idea. These 2 cities are on that stretch of land in between Manila Bay and Laguna de Bai. It may have adobe underneath but those lands near Laguna lake may be loose deposits on top. Afaik those areas around Laguna lake used to be marshes.

    Laguna lake is like Taal lake, it is the sunken caldera of an extinct volcano. The remnant of its crater is what is now Talim Island. Same as with Manila Bay, the islands of Corregidor and Caballo are the remnants of its crater. Note that this super volcano is NOT EXTINCT and is classified as potentially active.
    Last edited by yebo; April 26th, 2019 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    BGC i know has adobe underneath. Taguig and Muntinlupa no idea. These 2 cities are on that stretch of land in between Manila Bay and Laguna de Bai. It may have adobe underneath but those lands near Laguna lake may be loose deposits on top. Afaik those areas around Laguna lake used to be marshes.

    Laguna lake is like Taal lake, it is the sunken caldera of an extinct volcano. The remnant of its crater is what is now Talim Island. Same as with Manila Bay, the islands of Corregidor and Caballo are the remnants of its crater. Note that this super volcano is NOT EXTINCT and is classified as potentially active.
    Grabe ang lalaking volcano naman yan, totoo yata nun una panahon giant ang mga tao, syempre kung giant ang volcano noon, tapos giant din ang volcano, lumalabas pareho lang proportional 1:100 ganun

    Siguro yun mga malalaking puno natin ngsun, damo lang sa kanila noon

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