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    The Philippines is looking at arming itself for the first time with dedicated fighter jets made outside of the United States, President Benigno Aquino said Wednesday amid a territorial dispute with China.

    The Philippines last month requested aircraft, patrol boats and radar systems from its US military ally to help it achieve what the government said would be a "minimum credible defence".

    Aquino said that his government had asked to buy second-hand F-16s from the United States, but their maintenance costs could end up being too high because of their age.

    "We might end up spending $400 million or $800 million per squadron, and we were thinking of getting two squadrons," he said in an interview with Manila's Bombo Radio.

    "We do have an alternative, and -- this is a surprise -- it seems we have the capacity to buy brand-new, but not from America," Aquino said, without mentioning the aircraft model.

    "These are manufactured by another progressive country that I won't name at this point."

    Aquino noted that Manila had retired its last fighter jet, a Korean War-vintage F-5, in 2005. It does continue to fly S211 trainer jets made by the Italian firm Marchetti, which are sometimes used as ground attack aircraft against various insurgencies.

    But along with the F-5, the Philippines had previously relied on obsolete US hand-me-downs including the T-33 and the P-51 Mustang as dedicated attack fighters, and the country now has no effective air defences.

    It is engaged in a tense maritime standoff with China over the disputed Scarborough Shoal and surrounding waters in the South China Sea. Both nations have stationed vessels there for over a month to assert their sovereignty.

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    For performance, avionics, agility, multi-role ability, weapons, stealth here are the best fighter jets to consider:

    US Lightning II F-35 still under development
    US Raptor F-22
    US F-16 Fighting Falcon (last F-16 delivered to USAF was March 18, 2005)
    US F-15 Eagle (will be in use till 2025, used by Israel, Japan and Saudi Arabia)
    US Navy Super Hornet F/A 18 E/F
    Eurofighter (UK Italy Spain Germany) Typhoon
    France Dassault Rafale
    Russian Navy Sukhoi SU-33
    Russia Sukhoi SU-30
    Russia Sukhoi SU-35
    Sweden SAAB JAS-39 Gripen

    Look at the overall picture and weapon capabilities.

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    presyo?

    and where's the money?

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    Hindi kaya ng peraa natin yan tapos may maintenance pa. Huwag na atupagin mag-armas para sa spratly's, hindi naman tayo mananalo doon. Kahit helicopters and transport planes na lang since mas may pakinabang yun at mura.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    sa China siguro bibili mura dun aircraft

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    siguro ok na yun at least meron hehehe..probably they'll buy russian mas mura... china sa tingin ko hind
    kaya yan paliparin ng airforce natin magaling ata ang pinoy!

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    bili nalang ng Cessna kabitan ng machine gun

    2 crew -- 1 pilot and 1 tao mag-ma-machine gun or may hawak na portable rocket launcher

    or pwede mag hulog ng bomba manually
    Last edited by uls; May 17th, 2012 at 11:38 AM.

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    ^^^Non-US two seat supersonic multirole fighter/trainer... Rafale, Typhoon, Su-30 and Grippen. Maraming political strings attached kasi pag US-made. even anything with American technology. SU-30 best bet since 3 ASEAN member countries have them and can source parts from CHINA other than Russia. Pang bayad, yung mga saging ayaw bilhin ng mga tsino...
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 17th, 2012 at 11:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Non-US two seat fighter/trainer with multirole... Rafale, Typhoon, Su-30 and Grippen. SU-30 best bet since 3 ASEAN countries have them and can source parts from CHINA. Pang bayad, yung mga saging ayaw bilhin ng mga tsino...
    kaya nga ang ipambili nalang natin yun mga prutas natin hahaha billion of tons siguro ang halaga
    3hectars namin maisan gawin nalang namin sagingan achecheche

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    ang pambayad magbebenta ng bonds

    tapos increase taxes para may pambayad sa bonds

    hehe

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    yung prutas na binebenta sa China galing sa puhunan ng private companies or individuals

    kung ikaw ang namuhunan payag ka gagamitin kita mo pambili ng eroplano ng gobyerno?

    buti sana kung lupa ng gobyerno yan at puhunan ng gobyerno

    tulad ng middle east oil exporters the govt owns the oil pwede nila gamitin ang pera kinita sa pagbenta ng langis pambili ng gamit ng gobyerno

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    Last year's news but offers clues anong kukunin...

    Spratlys arms race heats up; AFP to buy six fighter jets
    by Florante S. Solmerin

    THE military plans to acquire six jet fighters for interdiction missions against intruders into Philippine waters and air space, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said Friday.
    “We’re giving so much priority to our internal security operations, but lately the equation has shifted because we realize we’ve also to assess our external defense capability,” Gazmin told reporters at the sidelines of the Air Force’s 64th anniversary celebrations.
    Armed Forces chief Gen. Eduardo Oban Jr. said senior military officials had recommended an initial six multi-role planes to be acquired within the term of President Benigno Aquino III.
    He said the Air Force was looking at either Korea’s TA-50 Golden Eagle or Italy’s M-346, and depending on their arms and in-flight instrumentation would cost about P1 billion each.


    F-16 ripoff...

    KAI T-50 Golden Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Russian/Italian

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-346
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 17th, 2012 at 12:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Last year's news but offers clues anong kukunin...
    F-16 ripoff...
    Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Just because it has LERX doesn't mean it's an F-16 ripoff...

    F-16 has fuselage shielded inlets(mounted at the bottom) while the Yak-130 has strake shielded inlets(mounted on the side)

    F-16 has one engine while the Yak-130 has two

    And the list goes on and on
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    Just because it has LERX doesn't mean it's an F-16 ripoff...

    F-16 has fuselage shielded inlets(mounted at the bottom) while the Yak-130 has strake shielded inlets(mounted on the side)

    F-16 has one engine while the Yak-130 has two

    And the list goes on and on
    The KAI T50 design is largely based on the licensed-built KF-16...and it was even partly funded by Lockheed Martin.

    KAI T-50 Golden Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The basic design of the aircraft was set by 1999. The development of the aircraft was funded 13% by Lockheed Martin, 17% by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), and 70% by the government of South Korea.

    The T-50 Golden Eagle design is largely derived from the F-16 Fighting Falcon, and they have many similarities: use of a single engine, speed, size, cost, and the range of weapons. KAI's previous engineering experience in license-producing the KF-16 was a starting point for the development of the T-50.

    The T-50 Golden Eagle uses a single General Electric F404-102 turbofan engine license-produced by Samsung Techwin, upgraded with a Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) system jointly developed by General Electric and Korea Aerospace Industries. The engine consists of three-staged fans, seven axial stage arrangement, and an afterburner. The aircraft has a maximum speed of Mach 1.4-1.5.[42] Its engine produces a maximum of 78.7 kN (17,700 lbf) of thrust with afterburner.The General Electric F414 engine has been suggested as the new engine for the T-50 family, as well as Rolls Royce's EJ200 to allow better compatibility with European air forces. Both engines provide more thrust compared to the F404.

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    sana di lang sila dada make a move to buy those figther planes para magkaroon naman tayo ng reliable na defens for our counrty kawawa ang airforce na wala rin force

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    may maganda rin palang naidudulot ang stand off napapabili tuloy ang pinas ng mga fighters jet. dapat noon pa nila ginawa yan kahit 2 fighters jet kada isang taon..

    pinoy attitude, kung kailan nangyayari tsaka gagawa ng action wala talagang plano

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    my best guess is it will be the KAI T50 supersonic trainer/fighter/attack plane from south korea. $20 million each (or P1B as per sec. Gazmin so even the prices match), kaya natin ang price.

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    Yup,- Kimchi, Hyundai vehicles, Samsung/LG Flat Panel TVs and Cellphones, Korean Telenovela, and now KAI T50.....

    15.6K:weathermanf2:

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    baka si Grace Lee undercover salesman

    binayaran siya para i-convince si PNoy bumili ng Korean fighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    baka si Grace Lee undercover salesman

    binayaran siya para i-convince si PNoy bumili ng Korean fighter
    Line iyan ni conspriacy tabloid reader OB...

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