para sa mga experto sa baril

[Wouie]

Ano po ang magaling na brand ng handgun for protection; should be reliable and easy to use. How much is it including PTC? I'm considering 45 or 9mm.

[corbon44]

depends on purpose if pang home protection or for competitive shooting.

for beginners, ok na starting piece yung cz 75 9mm, gawang czech iyon and proven na rin. dati nakakakuha noon ng below 30K due to an apparent supply deal with the pnp that eventually went sour. pero wala nang ini-issue nowadays na ptc or yung permit to carry, permit to transport na lang which has an expiration, aside from the gun license.

ok din daw yung daewoo, and yes its korean, though hindi pa gaanong proven ang track record.

stay away na lang from norinco...

[Wouie]

wala na bang iniisyung ptc ngayon. ano yong permit to transport.

[Mojo]

suspended ang pag issue PTC ngayon,

[bad driver]

I don't see the real use of carrying fire arms in cars..... other than Power tripping on the people who cut them off or looked at them "funny" or honked at them incessantly.

If you are ambushed by armed men, dba fish in a barrel ka naman talaga sa kotse? if they wanna kill you, you are dead anyways. you have limited angles of attack and is immobile.

Well, you do have an advantage over unarmed motorists like me

pero, if you have bullet proofing and can afford an escort full of armed men... then ciguro pwede pa

[bilog]

Somebody offered me Permit to carry firearm outside of residence pero i am doubtful if it is legit. They fee for the PTCFOR would cost around 10-11 thousand daw.

[corbon44]

permit to transport is issued to allow you to transport your firearm outside of your residence to the firing range or to bring it to a gunsmith. baka po yung "ptcfor" na inoffer sa inyo sir bilog is yung permit to transport.

mukha pong mahal masyado yung 10-11K for a permit to transport. mas madali pong maka-avail ng permit to transport if you're a member of a gun club - encouraged po kasi ang membership sa ganito kasi it's a good way to monitor gun-owners and it provides people the much needed training, both on skills and discipline, needed in owning a gun.

sir BD, that's exactly why wala na pong ptc, kasi naging marami na ang incidence ng paggamit ng firearms during fits of rage - sabi nga nila, carrying a gun does not imply that you have a motive to shoot another person, but it presents an opportunity for abuse.

[Elroi]

Issuance of Permit-To-Carry (PTC) is suspended indefinitely to civilians but there's always an exepmtion to the rule... if u can show valid proof that your life is threatened, then u can apply for a PTC.. legally, it will cost you 7-8k for 1 year... kung ipapaayos mo lang, aabutin mga 10k up...

sometimes, you really need to carry a gun for protection.. lalo na kung kailangan sa trabaho like if u always carry large sum of cash...

[nicolodeon]

Somebody offered me Permit to carry firearm outside of residence pero i am doubtful if it is legit. They fee for the PTCFOR would cost around 10-11 thousand daw.

Don't get it. Bogus 'yan.

Like the guys said on this thread: PTC issuaces for civilians are suspended indefinitely.

[1D4LV]

bro, hindi ako expert sa baril, pero expert ako sa COUNTERSTRIKE. hehehehe.

on your question, i think ang mai-aadvise ko lang is that you get a 12 gauge shotgun. allowed ata civvies to get this for protection. tsaka you really don't require gun handling skills to use one, in case of emergencies.



ooops... late, hindi ko nabasa yung post mo. kailangan mo pala handgun.... a 9 mm works best for self defense. mas kailangan mo ng quantity over stopping power.

[BlueBimmer]

if pambahay lng i recommend the Beretta 92FS, reliable masyado ito at pwede pa high cap magazine. more than 3 years na sa 92D ko, la pa nasisira kahit ilang beses na mag-shooting.


if idadala mo, ok ang Sig Sauer P228, reasonable size n stopping power.

[pissword]

i was about to post din na ang bro ko i think meron permit to transport at permit to carry.. meron he prefers na hindi nalang makita ng mga checkpoint. by the way nasa mindanao sila kaya madalas din ang checkpoint. i dunno how much it cost him pero ang pagkakaalam ko last year lang niya nakuha yung permit to carry nya (not sure)... so baka pwede ka.. handguns lang naman.

[Chip]

you could try http://www.glocktalk.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=80 a great group of guys. they helped me decide on what to get for my first gun

[zeagle]

Kung talagang life is in danger like you have a previous experience in kidnapping, you are profile of a potential kidnap victim, you received death threats, etc., I don't see anything wrong in protecting yourself. But if you wanted a PTC for some other reason, I don't advise. Just keep your cool and be low profile, you'll be safe in our streets.

[amboy]

I don't see the real use of carrying fire arms in cars..... other than Power tripping on the people who cut them off or looked at them "funny" or honked at them incessantly.

If you are ambushed by armed men, dba fish in a barrel ka naman talaga sa kotse? if they wanna kill you, you are dead anyways. you have limited angles of attack and is immobile.

Well, you do have an advantage over unarmed motorists like me

pero, if you have bullet proofing and can afford an escort full of armed men... then ciguro pwede pa

well... there's a saying kasi that goes something like this:

'it's better to have one when you need one,
than not to have one when you need one'

but of course carrying a gun (with ptc) should merit your circumstances. if you carry just to have bragging right or just for show, then you should'nt be carrying one. but if you carry one because your job or your business necessate you to have some form of protection then carrying a gun would be justified. but then again carrying a gun entails responsibilities. you should know the legal implications in carrying and using your gun. it's like driving a car, its not enough for someone just to know how to drive, but you also need to know traffic rules and regulations para walang sabit.

[pissword]

9mm nga din pala siguro mas maganda, malambot lang kalabitin at hindi kasing lakas ng tama ng .45, at least malaki chance crippled lang ang abot ng tatamaan as compared to .45 malaki chance patay tatamaan mo, makakasuhan ka pa ng murder or homicide

[amboy]

Somebody offered me Permit to carry firearm outside of residence pero i am doubtful if it is legit. They fee for the PTCFOR would cost around 10-11 thousand daw.

hmmmm... that's hi-way robbery normally cost around 4k (for 9mm) to around 6-8k for (.45).

[IceColdBeer]

Magkano Sig ngaun?

[BlueBimmer]

or kng may kakilala ka NBI or PNP pwede ka gawing Asset then u could carry a gun without paying for any permit. libre. PERO delikado hehe kaya la rin

[BlueBimmer]

last time i asked the Sig was * a lil more than 50k, the Beretta was * 40-45k.