para sa mga experto sa baril

[Wouie]

Ano po ang magaling na brand ng handgun for protection; should be reliable and easy to use. How much is it including PTC? I'm considering 45 or 9mm.

[corbon44]

depends on purpose if pang home protection or for competitive shooting.

for beginners, ok na starting piece yung cz 75 9mm, gawang czech iyon and proven na rin. dati nakakakuha noon ng below 30K due to an apparent supply deal with the pnp that eventually went sour. pero wala nang ini-issue nowadays na ptc or yung permit to carry, permit to transport na lang which has an expiration, aside from the gun license.

ok din daw yung daewoo, and yes its korean, though hindi pa gaanong proven ang track record.

stay away na lang from norinco...

[tracer1]

depends on purpose if pang home protection or for competitive shooting.

for beginners, ok na starting piece yung cz 75 9mm, gawang czech iyon and proven na rin. dati nakakakuha noon ng below 30K due to an apparent supply deal with the pnp that eventually went sour. pero wala nang ini-issue nowadays na ptc or yung permit to carry, permit to transport na lang which has an expiration, aside from the gun license.

ok din daw yung daewoo, and yes its korean, though hindi pa gaanong proven ang track record.

stay away na lang from norinco...

CZ din ang unang gun ko, then Colt, SW, Armscor, llama, ok naman lahat pero nabenta ko na lahat ng magagandang kalibre, mumurahin ngayon na Llama .45 gamit ko magastos kasi ng mahiligan ko mag firing, tama mga advice nila bro karamihan naman sa baril Ok nasa gumagamit lang, Noringko lang di ko pa nasubukan.

eto nalang masasabi ko bro basta nakakamatay ok nayan hehehe!

[userfriendly]

Gusto ko kumuha ng shotgun para sa home defense at pang range na din. Ok ba ang Hatsan, Akkar o Norinco? Ito ang choices dahil malaking mura nila compared to Remington and Mossberg. Less than half the price.

[Bry]

Guys tanong lang, meron ba tayong local gun forums?

[overdrayv]

what's this gun?

[mikey177]

Guys tanong lang, meron ba tayong local gun forums?

The most active local forum is the Band of Glockers (BoGs) at http://www.glocktalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=80

Don't let the name fool you. Most of the BoGs don't even own Glocks, and we discuss anything and everything shooting-related, not just Glocks.

You can also try the relatively new (less than 100 members the last time I checked) Philippine Shooters Forum at http://www.philippineshooters.com/forum/

[Wouie]

wala na bang iniisyung ptc ngayon. ano yong permit to transport.

[Mojo]

suspended ang pag issue PTC ngayon,

[bad driver]

I don't see the real use of carrying fire arms in cars..... other than Power tripping on the people who cut them off or looked at them "funny" or honked at them incessantly.

If you are ambushed by armed men, dba fish in a barrel ka naman talaga sa kotse? if they wanna kill you, you are dead anyways. you have limited angles of attack and is immobile.

Well, you do have an advantage over unarmed motorists like me

pero, if you have bullet proofing and can afford an escort full of armed men... then ciguro pwede pa

[amboy]

I don't see the real use of carrying fire arms in cars..... other than Power tripping on the people who cut them off or looked at them "funny" or honked at them incessantly.

If you are ambushed by armed men, dba fish in a barrel ka naman talaga sa kotse? if they wanna kill you, you are dead anyways. you have limited angles of attack and is immobile.

Well, you do have an advantage over unarmed motorists like me

pero, if you have bullet proofing and can afford an escort full of armed men... then ciguro pwede pa

well... there's a saying kasi that goes something like this:

'it's better to have one when you need one,
than not to have one when you need one'

but of course carrying a gun (with ptc) should merit your circumstances. if you carry just to have bragging right or just for show, then you should'nt be carrying one. but if you carry one because your job or your business necessate you to have some form of protection then carrying a gun would be justified. but then again carrying a gun entails responsibilities. you should know the legal implications in carrying and using your gun. it's like driving a car, its not enough for someone just to know how to drive, but you also need to know traffic rules and regulations para walang sabit.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I don't see the real use of carrying fire arms in cars..... other than Power tripping on the people who cut them off or looked at them "funny" or honked at them incessantly.

Depende kung nasaan ka. Here, I've had run-ins with white supremacists twice (rednecks in Oklahoma, neo-Nazis in southern Illinois). With the latter, it came down to a show of force for me in order to run and drive away. And all I did was ask directions from a white girl who smiled at me for being courteous.......

That's also the last time I did a road trip in plain daylight at those parts. From then on, I traveled in the dead of the night and filled up only in big cities.....

[Altis6453]

Depende kung nasaan ka. Here, I've had run-ins with white supremacists twice (rednecks in Oklahoma, neo-Nazis in southern Illinois). With the latter, it came down to a show of force for me in order to run and drive away. And all I did was ask directions from a white girl who smiled at me for being courteous.......

That's also the last time I did a road trip in plain daylight at those parts. From then on, I traveled in the dead of the night and filled up only in big cities.....

Show of force? Did they try to harm you? Or, flash a weapon? Hirap din talaga kung merong groups preaching hate of other races.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Show of force? Did they try to harm you? Or, flash a weapon? Hirap din talaga kung merong groups preaching hate of other races.

Let's see. 5 of em. All look HS age. All looked like they lifted weights. I saw a bayonet, chains, a lug wrench, brass knuckles (maybe). Luckily no gun. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

For having an extended conversation with a pretty white girl? Well, I heard one of them say "Pancho over there" and then I immediately walked out of there. They followed me to the parking lot, weapons drawn. Did they really need a reason? Nope. They saw me as a target of opportunity.

They were all silent with icy stares of pure hatred. I didn't need any convincing. When they got to within 40 ft, I just took my .357 Desert Eagle from the small of my back and leveled it at them. Even with the smaller 6" barrel, the Desert Eagle is pretty intimidating. They took off back where they came. I guess they were parked at the other side. But, the last one pointed a finger right at me as he cleared the corner.

My courage decided that's it. I tucked my tail between my legs and drove out of there fast. I remember telling the girl that I was headed west (to Nevada) and they may have overheard me. Sooo... since my blue Laser Turbo stuck out like a sore thumb, I headed north instead. It added over 300 miles to my trip. But, I wasn't taking any chances.....

[falken]

Let's see. 5 of em. All look HS age. All looked like they lifted weights. I saw a bayonet, chains, a lug wrench, brass knuckles (maybe). Luckily no gun. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

For having an extended conversation with a pretty white girl? Well, I heard one of them say "Pancho over there" and then I immediately walked out of there. They followed me to the parking lot, weapons drawn. Did they really need a reason? Nope. They saw me as a target of opportunity.

They were all silent with icy stares of pure hatred. I didn't need any convincing. When they got to within 40 ft, I just took my .357 Desert Eagle from the small of my back and leveled it at them. Even with the smaller 6" barrel, the Desert Eagle is pretty intimidating. They took off back where they came. I guess they were parked at the other side. But, the last one pointed a finger right at me as he cleared the corner.

My courage decided that's it. I tucked my tail between my legs and drove out of there fast. I remember telling the girl that I was headed west (to Nevada) and they may have overheard me. Sooo... since my blue Laser Turbo stuck out like a sore thumb, I headed north instead. It added over 300 miles to my trip. But, I wasn't taking any chances.....

Hehe, The last one pointed his finger at you coz he's gonna go home and tell his daddy. I wonder why white trash think their more superior than others? Also neo- nazis, don't they know their idol Hitler had only 1 testicle? Anyway, glad nothing bad happened to you.

[w777]

Depende kung nasaan ka. Here, I've had run-ins with white supremacists twice (rednecks in Oklahoma, neo-Nazis in southern Illinois). With the latter, it came down to a show of force for me in order to run and drive away. And all I did was ask directions from a white girl who smiled at me for being courteous.......

That's also the last time I did a road trip in plain daylight at those parts. From then on, I traveled in the dead of the night and filled up only in big cities.....

Ba't ba may mga taong ganyan? duwag naman sa tunay ang mga yan. matatapang lang sila pag nakakalamang either pag marami sila or hamak na mas malaki kesa sayo.

[compact]

experience ko lang. since i acquired a licensed gun, mas bumait ako at nakapagtitimpi kesa dati.Pati mga barumbadong driver pag nasilip na may baril ka sa kotse, bumabait. bakit kaya? mine is a compact .45 armscorp.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Ba't ba may mga taong ganyan? duwag naman sa tunay ang mga yan. matatapang lang sila pag nakakalamang either pag marami sila or hamak na mas malaki kesa sayo.

Well, it's because they believe they are the superior race and other races should either serve them or be exterminated.

You have to be very careful nowadays because many of them are adopting a more clean-cut look and blending in with the decent folks. Outside, they look respectable. But inside, the same hatred remains.

Even where I live, I was extra careful to choose where to settle down. Luckily, many retired military veterans live in our neighborhood who have oriental wives and kids. There are also some Indians and Mexicans although it is still a caucasian-majority neighborhood.

[bilog]

Somebody offered me Permit to carry firearm outside of residence pero i am doubtful if it is legit. They fee for the PTCFOR would cost around 10-11 thousand daw.

[nicolodeon]

Somebody offered me Permit to carry firearm outside of residence pero i am doubtful if it is legit. They fee for the PTCFOR would cost around 10-11 thousand daw.

Don't get it. Bogus 'yan.

Like the guys said on this thread: PTC issuaces for civilians are suspended indefinitely.