Open Letter to Our Leaders: Why We Are Not Out In The Streets

[oldblue]

I would have respected you if you took the consequences of your actions like real heroes: calmly and responsibly instead of kicking and screaming and making all kinds of lame excuses. You say you are willing to die for us, that you do all these things for the country and the Filipino, but you are not even willing to go to jail for us.

swak na swak. back in the martial law days ang dami nakulong, nag-hunger strike na-torture in order to be recognized by the people na sincere ang mga political beliefs nila. dito nahawakan lang ulo para i-guide papasok ng kotse, nag-aalburoto na, sigaw na kagad na "martial law na daw ba?".

[Flagg]

Kung si tabako ay na-extend ay ubos na pera natin kasi siya pinakamagaling na magnanakaw. Also, nung time nya puro kidnap, grabe.

[oldblue]

Kung si tabako ay na-extend ay ubos na pera natin kasi siya pinakamagaling na magnanakaw. Also, nung time nya puro kidnap, grabe.

you see. even with the kidnap thing, nobody reasoned out, "ang gulo-gulo na sa Pinas, mag-rally tayo remove FVR". wala nga ganun noon eh. hinintay lang talaga nila magkamali si FVR na mag-wish na mag-extend ng term at dun sya binanatan. perhaps dahil wala sila makita butas or perhaps the people were satisfied with his strong leadership. I reiterate "strong" coz it's a must for leaders.

[FrankDrebin]

Also, nung time nya puro kidnap, grabe.

They say, it was headed by Erap and Lacson to finance the massive Erap candidacy.

[oldblue]

so there you go:

a rally that stopped the momentum of FVR's achievements and made way for Erap

the same unforgiving rally again after 3 short years lang, to remove Erap.

then the rallies of Philippines today again after 3 or so short year lang, to remove the successor of Erap.


history learned we go forward.
history loved we go wanting to happen again.

[Flagg]

Sa bagay, all we needed to do was get guns (which I like) and make friends with the generals.

[ARB]

if we let the estradas read this, are we sure they will understand? walang english language sa mga unggoy!

and kay corytot and party sana ma.... wag na masama balak ko.

[madzie71]

well said...

[empy]

hoy, it's so jologs to make rally in the streets, ha! kadiri to death!!

[pajerokid]

fact of the matter is, a majority of the people "expressing" their opinions on the "avenues of expression" are of the rent-a-crowd variety.

Do you people honestly think that these people rallye because of their patriotic instincts?!

The reason why these activities wont work is because THEY'RE ARTIFICIAL! They just get trumped up by a media network who stupidly aligned with an ex-president by marrying off a son to the ex-president's daughter kaya akala tuloy ng tao eh lahat ng pinoy ganyan iniisip.

If things were as bad as the opposition claim to be, then heck, ako pa magdadala ng baranggay ko jan sa Ayala.

Tanong ko lang sa mga anti-pandak dito. And just out of curiosity.

SUMASALI BA KAYO SA RALLYE?

Baka kayo lang kelangan dun to succeed? Put your money where your mouth is!
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On El Tabako.... potek, i'd take him any day over GMA.

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On "State of Emergency = Martial Law"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!!!!

I dont know about those UP or Atenean idiots protesting IN THEIR CAMPUSES, but i got a whiff of the REAL MARTIAL LAW, and boy, wala akong makitang violation during the state of emergency which even comes close to an iota of what martial law was!

Kung Martial Law tayo ngayon, the great commie Randy David would be promptly be floating in the pasig or dumped in some wooded area in Tanay.

IMHO, a little Lee Kwan Yew wont hurt.

We raised a nation of cry babies.

[Bogeyman]

Kung Martial Law tayo ngayon, the great commie Randy David would be promptly be floating in the pasig or dumped in some wooded area in Tanay.

I don't know if anyone noticed, but not all opposition members are on the government's order of battle. Akbayan's Rep. Etta Rosales, for example, has been untouched so far (there's less chances of her getting arrested since she's not allied with the Left, IMO).

Even Argee Guevarra is not linked to the Reds, but he was arrested with Randy David simply because they defied the cancellation of rally permits and still took to the streets.

[oldblue]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!!!!

I dont know about those UP or Atenean idiots protesting IN THEIR CAMPUSES, but i got a whiff of the REAL MARTIAL LAW, and boy, wala akong makitang violation during the state of emergency which even comes close to an iota of what martial law was!

Kung Martial Law tayo ngayon, the great commie Randy David would be promptly be floating in the pasig or dumped in some wooded area in Tanay.

IMHO, a little Lee Kwan Yew wont hurt.

We raised a nation of cry babies.

some grads think they're better than adults kasi eh.

sabi nga ng uncle ko who's head of a corporate legal dept of a major corporation here, mahirap daw kumuha ng grads from UP and Ateneo, yes by corporate standards pasok na pasok sila. in fact they can perfect the entrance exams if given more time. but the problem lies kapag nasa field na sila. They tend to force their opinions/education on others, specifically, other lawyers, policemen, officials, judges, complainants, defendants. ika nga puro in theory as taken from law books. i

instead daw na maayos ang gusot lalo lumala ang relationship ng legal dept. sa ibang entities. that's why they'd rather use some hardcore UP and Ateneo grads for research, kung san sila magaling. but in the case of how to deal with people, particularly Philippine politics, mas ok pa daw yun mga grads ng ibang colleges particularly yun mga galing sa Manila law schools, willing magpakumbaba at a given time, and aggressive at some point. balanced kumbaga perhaps bec. they were street smart on schooling days.

that's how our world works. palagay ko talaga yan ang bulok ang sistema na isinisigaw ng mga idealists/leftists/rightists etc. they cant seem to get along with the "pakikisama" system na kinagisnan ng mga tao sa gobyerno. it's a starting point for corruption, I agree, but we really can't do anything about it.

kahit na magpaka-top notcher ka pa sa bar, bypassing all great minds in your generation, makakaharap at makakaharap mo pa din yun mga less sa'yo. if you go to a hotshot private corp., ka-generation mo will take a path sa low-paying salary sa gobyerno which in time will become officials din.

of course, it's ok to single it out with another hotshot lawyer from another popular company. kumbaga ateneo vs. up, up vs. up, or ateneo vs ateneo pero tignan nyo naman ang nasa gitna/mediator nyo, gobyerno na usually mga lawyers coming from less popular law schools. inevitable kumbaga.

[Jun aka Pekto]

On "State of Emergency = Martial Law"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!!!!

I dont know about those UP or Atenean idiots protesting IN THEIR CAMPUSES, but i got a whiff of the REAL MARTIAL LAW, and boy, wala akong makitang violation during the state of emergency which even comes close to an iota of what martial law was!

Kung Martial Law tayo ngayon, the great commie Randy David would be promptly be floating in the pasig or dumped in some wooded area in Tanay.

We raised a nation of cry babies.

I spent almost 10 years of my life in the Philippines, all of them under Marcos rule. I can also say that if you toed the party line, then you didn't have anything to worry about. Marcos had legions of followers and admirers even during the worst years of his rule. Their numbers made it seem like he had the mandate of the people and anyone who protested his rule were whiners like the way you're describing protestors now.

If you acted like good little citizens, life went on as normal. You were free to travel abroad, do most things people do now, even drag race (illegally) in the wee hours of the night. Even with a curfew, the authorities almost always left you alone. Heck, we spent many nights cruising around Manila past 2am until sun up and not one cop ever stopped us. Some even waved back when we waved at them.

You only got in trouble when you spoke out against the government. There was no toleration of any dissent, except maybe with the clergy.

I honestly doubt high profile oppositionists would've been "salvaged" and dumped somewhere. After all, even Ninoy Aquino was allowed to leave the country for medical reasons and be with his family abroad.

It was the petty thieves and drug trafficker/users who were often salvaged. I mean, they deserved to go to jail. But, they never got due process and were simply eliminated. A lot of salvage victims were also due to political infighting especially during election years. Of course, the administration didn't really care who were at the lower rungs so long as they were supporters of Marcos.

If you're calling crybabies those who protest GMA's rule, then those who spoke out against Marcos were crybabies as well. After all, the peso was what, P18-P23 per dollar? The "silent majority" then were expressing the same opinions as the "silent majority" now. The AFP had a real air force and a real navy unlike now. The daily life of most people then were as it is now. The best times of my youth (politics aside) were those 10 years I spent in the Philippines under Marcos rule.

[pajerokid]

I honestly doubt high profile oppositionists would've been "salvaged" and dumped somewhere. After all, even Ninoy Aquino was allowed to leave the country for medical reasons and be with his family abroad.

Uhm... Ninoy? Yup, you're correct. He wasn't just dumped somewhere.

[DonCamote]

Exactly! Well said kabayan!

[CaMoTe!!!]

swerte lang talaga si gma wala pampalit sa kaniya...

[davy88]

I agree with pajerokid, grabe ang pagkaarte ng mga tao ngayon... konti lang akala mo inapi talaga.

yun state of emergency for me shows GMA's decisiveness on the current politicking na medyo sobra naman na talaga. kung wala naman mga rally at gulo na yan ok naman na bansa natin, paabante na sa totoo lang

[niky]

Really? Her state of emergency tells me she's kind of insecure, and really worried about her post. Good thing for her a lot of people think she was showing a firm hand... some of us on the other side of the coin think she's gone quite a bit overboard, creating more problems to solve the current ones.

All of the things she needed to do to stop the "conspiracy" in its tracks she could have done without resorting to threats and intimidation. She has the justices in her pockets, for Chris'sakes... in one day, she could've gotten all the warrants she needed, without raising hue and cry over the fact that she's ordering warrantless arrests. If all these arrests were made on strong evidence, as the government claims, why are the fiscals and prosecutors not buying it? What's wrong with this scenario?

The rallies? Destabilizing? What's more destabilizing: When the news shows a paltry 4000 or 5000 protesters at EDSA, or when it shows the government suddenly revoking their permits, and violently dispersing them with water cannons.

Think long and hard on that, people. She overstepped her bounds. I dislike the opposition as much as anybody, but when the DOJ Secretary starts saying that they will investigate ABS CBN for reporting the news at Fort Bonifacio, what's to come after? And this was in the Inquirer, partner to their archnemesis, GMA... so it's not ABS CBN beating its chest over this.

I watched their coverage. At no time did any reporter tell people to come on over to Boni for free beer and a show. They may have asked one too many leading questions, but they were cautious about how they reported Government pronouncements. They stated that certain personalities were trying to start something, but that people were advised to stay out. In the end, thanks to media reporting up-to-the-minute news and publicizing the healing of the Marines' rift, those personalities were left looking embarrased. That should have made GMA happy.

At no time were they ordered to quit reporting, they were merely requested to kindly not report it. That they continued was going against the wishes of the government, but in no way illegal.

The media itself is starting to dig into the facts behind the supposed coup, and is turning up information that supports the Government's story... I guess all they really care about is bringing down the Government, huh? Gloria has once and for all proven her anti-media bias... and I don't think she'll ever live it down.

Yes, you're all happy that this is happening to people you see as bad influences on our country. And the fact that it isn't very constitutional doesn't bother you, does it? Well, Marcos started off pursuing leftists and political foes, too. Look where that led us.

Is perceived progress more important than other people's rights? Even the possibly innocent? Think long and hard on that. Once a president has to resort to extraordinary means to hold on to her position, you know something is fundamentally wrong with her administration.

[niky]

Looking back... I agree with mbt... wala akong sagot sa mga problema natin ngayon... I'm of the opinion that we should wait for constitutional processes to run their due course. But if GMA starts playing around with the constitution, that won't likely happen.

I think very few people feel insecure with what GMA is doing because they can't see the connections or the possibilities. It'll never happen to me... buti nga sa kanya... anything for the good of the country justifies itself in the end.

The question is, when does this all stop being for the good of the country, and start being for the good of GMA? Or has this already happened?

[Jun aka Pekto]

Is perceived progress more important than other people's rights? Even the possibly innocent? Think long and hard on that. Once a president has to resort to extraordinary means to hold on to her position, you know something is fundamentally wrong with her administration.

Seems like GMA used PP 1017 conveniently to do some shrewd strategic house-cleaning. Just look at the political landscape now. I don't buy the story of common cause among such a disparate group of oppositionists much like no one bought into the alliance between Hitler and Stalin during the early part of WW2.