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  1. Join Date
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    sana mabasa nilang lahat to...

    para naman matahimik na ang pinas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by akuma
    sana mabasa nilang lahat to...

    para naman matahimik na ang pinas...
    Pare, alam naman nilang lahat yan. Kaya lang whatever motivates them is obviously much stronger than what some might consider common sense.

    Kayo lang magisip ng motivations nila hehe.

  3. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Hehehe. Sa dinamidami ng Anti-GMA thread sa tsikot iisa lang lagi ang sagot ko,"Ok lang ba sa kanila si Noli kapag nag-resign si GMA?" as of this writing walang pa ring sumasagot na ok.

    I ain't a GMA fan but I don't see enough valid reason to agree with Cory, opposition, etc. They have their time but we are still in deep ****. GMA may gave us more **** but I don't wanna go more deeper into that **** with them. **** silang lahat. **** talaga! Napapa-**** na rin ako sa shitty situation natin.

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    now... if someone could just email this to abs-cbn. maybe this could enlighten them

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    Quote Originally Posted by laklak
    now... if someone could just email this to abs-cbn. maybe this could enlighten them
    someone apparently did! they are discussing the email just now at ANC with pia hontiveros and guest prof. randy david.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konde
    someone apparently did! they are discussing the email just now at ANC with pia hontiveros and guest prof. randy david.
    too bad i wasnt able to catch it. Anyway knowing the people critiquing the letter, I wouldnt be surprised if they had nothing but contempt for it.

    a bit OT

    are pia hontiveros and the party list congressman hontiveros-baraqiuel (first name escapes me) related? They kinda have a resamblance in their features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laklak
    are pia hontiveros and the party list congressman hontiveros-baraqiuel (first name escapes me) related? They kinda have a resamblance in their features.
    Pia Hontiveros is the younger sister of Rep. Rissa Hontiveros-Baraquel, herself a former journalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman
    Pia Hontiveros is the younger sister of Rep. Rissa Hontiveros-Baraquel, herself a former journalist.

    Kaya pala hawig eh.

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    kelangan mo tissue Frank? hehehe

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    The opposition has lost all arsenal to topple GMA.

    Guess what, peso is strong again at 51.38 a dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer
    The opposition has lost all arsenal to topple GMA.

    Guess what, peso is strong again at 51.38 a dollar.
    yup... heck... most people don't even mind the state of national emergency taking effect... they just want to work, relax afterwards, and just to get on with their own lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer
    The opposition has lost all arsenal to topple GMA.

    Guess what, peso is strong again at 51.38 a dollar.
    oh check it again! wohoo! we are on a run!

    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    I don't know what the majority of filipinos feel, but unlike him, I won't insist that I do. Formal random nationwide polls show that in fact, majority seem to not like GMA... whether you like it or not or agree or not, that seems to be how it is.
    it doesnt matter if people like her or not... it is nothing but another opinion... lots of opinion... the thing is, she is doing her job... a foolish opinion by 50 wise filipinos is still foolish...

    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    Food for thought...

    The AB class represents 1% of the total Philippine population.
    The C class represents something like 7% of the total philippine population (if i remember right).
    The rest are class DE people.

    who is the "we" he is referring to? how sure is he that his position is the position of the majority, as he seems to assert?
    and who is the working class here? c right? who infuses capital? a and b right? there goes the saying "dont ask you kids for dinner if you are the going to pay it..." are they an asset or a liability in this country? puro sila reklamo they are not contributing anything... being the majority wont make their sentiments right... lagi na lang silang "paano kaming mahihirap" eh ang tanong "paano naman kaming buong araw nagtratrabaho habang umaasa kayo?"

    we dont ignore them... but in decision making... reality shows that we could run this country better than they could... their opinions matter its just that the opinions of the 8% matter more... because if the 90% could run the country better than the 8-10% they should have better lives now... if buhay nila hindi nila maayos paano pa kaya yun bansa... their opinions are just based on their feelings and what they see, its an uneducated, biased opinions without thorough thinking...

    Quote Originally Posted by flagg
    Ayoko po yung give up my freedoms.
    i could not blame you... but that is selfish... when we are born in this world we are nothing... we dont have anything but when we were given the gift of life... we started to think na freedom is a RIGHT... but in fact this is just a PRIVELEGE... although freewill is a right... freedom is just privelege we must give up whenver we become a threat for the greater good of the society...

    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    correction po kay FVR, Tiger Cub na tawag sa 'tin nun. and it can be remembered na one of the peaceful period in our nation's history. zero coup d' etat and gulo on a national scale.
    unfortunately... we are quite fooled... time magazine, newsweek, forbes, fortune, and the rest of the world thinks the other way around... akala ko rin dati tiger cub tayo... pero hindi pala tayo kasama dun... we have relative slow growth compared to our neighbors... mukha lang maganda economy kasi maganda ang economy ng buong mundo... parang we got a small portion of the cake lang before... and lahat malaki ang share... unlike today... peso is one of the strongest currency in the world and the strongest in asia... during the ramos period nangyari ba ito?

    Quote Originally Posted by pajerokid
    I dont know about those UP or Atenean idiots protesting IN THEIR CAMPUSES, but i got a whiff of the REAL MARTIAL LAW, and boy, wala akong makitang violation during the state of emergency which even comes close to an iota of what martial law was!
    hahahah hindi ako kasama dito ah... wala akong balak... going to the streets to rally does bring more harm than good... i always go for things that would make this country better...

    one proof na hindi ginagawa ng opposition ang trabaho nila?

    look at RANDY DAVID!!! for christ's sake professor siya dapat asa classroom siya nagtuturo ng class at hindi niya palabasin sa mga kalsada ang mga students niya to rally! tapos after a generation magrereklamo sila na ang president pulpol... eh paano pag-rally lang ang tinuro nila...

  13. FrankDrebin Guest
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    I hope not the posts in this thread. I don't wanna hear Pia and Randy talking about the **** i've posted. :D

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    im sure theyre gonna say that the email was by some gloria propagandist. may be true. but who cares.

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    same sentiment here. oh by the way medyo OT eto pero have you read this week's issue of Time Magazine? There was an article saying that a Time reporter was invited to witness the meeting of the coup plotters, held at the house of Jose Cojaungco. Rep Robert Jaworski Jr., Rep Ding Tanjuatco & Pastor 'Boy" Saycon was present. They were so confident of the Over Throwing GMA's government will succeed that they invited this reporter.

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    I certainly understand the position and sentiment of this guy and do not exactly disagree with him on some points, but just one question...

    Who is the "we" that the writer of that letter is referring to?

    He is doing exactly the same thing that he is accusing cory et al of: speaking on behalf of "us". but let me point out that (whether i like it or not, or we like it or not) it is entirely a possibility that "we" are not the majority, and that that majority disagrees with "us".

    I don't know what the majority of filipinos feel, but unlike him, I won't insist that I do. Formal random nationwide polls show that in fact, majority seem to not like GMA... whether you like it or not or agree or not, that seems to be how it is.

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    Food for thought...

    The AB class represents 1% of the total Philippine population.
    The C class represents something like 7% of the total philippine population (if i remember right).
    The rest are class DE people.

    who is the "we" he is referring to? how sure is he that his position is the position of the majority, as he seems to assert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    The AB class represents 1% of the total Philippine population.
    The C class represents something like 7% of the total philippine population (if i remember right).
    You're missing something, all you need is the 8% to force GMA out of the office.

    The fact remains. Class AB and C decided to work to feed their families and leave politics to the politicians.

    Php 51.38 inspite of SOE means the economy doesn't care for as long as it is assured of a much stable politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    Food for thought...

    The AB class represents 1% of the total Philippine population.
    The C class represents something like 7% of the total philippine population (if i remember right).
    The rest are class DE people.

    who is the "we" he is referring to? how sure is he that his position is the position of the majority, as he seems to assert?
    I think youre taking things a bit too statistically.

    We refers to the people who share the author's point of view.
    Last edited by pajerokid; March 2nd, 2006 at 10:20 PM. Reason: grammar correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    Formal random nationwide polls show that in fact, majority seem to not like GMA... whether you like it or not or agree or not, that seems to be how it is.
    GMA comes across as an aloof, arrogant, overbearing know-it-all who will insist on doing things her way even if everyone else advises her otherwise.

    One tough hurdle for the opposition is: majority of Filipinos may not like GMA, but they don't dislike her enough to actually troop to the streets and force her ouster. For one, they don't think it's simply worth their time anymore and two, the alternative has yet to prove appealing, or even satisfactory at the very least.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; March 2nd, 2006 at 08:46 PM.

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