ok ba ang taurus and llama na baril?

[tebs]

taurus pt911
llama max1
parehong 9mm

ok ba performance and reliability nila? madali ba ang maintenance?

may philippine forum ba for guns?

[Altis6453]

tebs,

The Taurus line of pistols are pretty reliable since they copied some of the more reliable designs of a reputable manufacturer in Italy (Pietro Beretta). The PT911 is no different. I've heard some complaints about the PT911, mainly about the trigger when it is used in double action mode. The solution? Cock the trigger back so you can go SA all the way. What's nice about Taurus is their warranty, which is supposedly for a lifetime. I don't know if the same warranty is extended by their Philippine disrtibutor, Trust Trade. Taurus is a Brazilian manufacturer, by the way.

I can't say much about the Llamas since I don't have any experience with them. Maybe the other gun enthusiasts of Tsikot can help you out on this one.

Try to grip the pistol, if it fits your hand, and get a feel for the balance before you buy.

Good luck and stay safe.

[pajerokid]

Taurus is much much better than the Llama. Llama is a cheapo brand afaik.

Gun Enthusiast ka na pala Tebs?!

[tebs]

hindi naman

nagkataon lang na may nagbebenta ng 2nd hand. lagi daw nagtatarget shooting, so, i assume na well maintained yung mga baril.

papalitan daw nya ng glock, kaya dispose na daw yung luma

may kakilala ba kayo nagbebenta ng murang baril?

[mikey177]

Originally posted by tebs
may philippine forum ba for guns?

Sir, just click on my sig line. The link will take you to the Band of Glockers (BoG) forum, which is hosted on GlockTalk.com. The BoG forum is the closest thing to a Filipino gun forum that I know of, since it is participated in by Filipino and Filipino-American gun owners, who use all brands of guns, not just Glocks. The forum members also post info on guns that they are selling from time to time.

I don't have any personal experience with the Taurus PT911, but a kumpare of mine has one and AFAIK, he hasn't had any problems with it. I have, however, had two .38 spl Taurus revolvers at one time or another, and they both worked very well. I also have a PT111 Millennium, which, if you can learn to shoot the heavy DAO trigger, is a very good concealed carry gun.

I won't comment on the Llama, cuz I don't have any firsthand experience with it.

[mikey177]

Originally posted by tebs
nagkataon lang na may nagbebenta ng 2nd hand. lagi daw nagtatarget shooting, so, i assume na well maintained yung mga baril.

Sorry, only saw this part now. Unfortunately, a gun is a mechnical device, and like any such device (eg. an automobile), the more mileage it has on it, the lesser the resale value should be since you'll be getting something which has already gone through some wear and tear.

The selling price will depend in part on how many rounds he has put through the gun and if he has replaced any worn parts.

Do a search on the BoG forum, you'll find an old thread there about what to look for when inspecting a second-hand gun.

[tebs]

i read there that i should at least try to fire some rounds on different guns just to have a feel.
baka pwede ako pumunta sa mga meets nyo? saan ba kayo nagkikita? and lastly, magkano ba ang rent ng gun and for the ammo (just a ballpark figure will do )?

[Shintaro]

Originally posted by tebs
i read there that i should at least try to fire some rounds on different guns just to have a feel.
baka pwede ako pumunta sa mga meets nyo? saan ba kayo nagkikita? and lastly, magkano ba ang rent ng gun and for the ammo (just a ballpark figure will do )?

Member ako dati sa PB Dionisio.Ang gun rental dun ( dati-di ko alam kung magkano na ngayon) ay P250 + 250 din yata ang range fee + P6 each reload na 9mm bullets....


--------------------------------
Proud owner of Glock 17c

[yebo]

wala sila Taurus PT911 sa pb dionisio, CZ75 9mm and 1911 lang ang meron sila na for hire.

last time I was there it was P250 for the gun (first 100 rounds lang ha, additional P250 for the next 100 rounds). range fee was P200, tapos P6 per round of 9mm. ang .45acp mas mura, P5.50 yata.

but that was 8 months ago na. ewan ko ngayon. i do most of my firing in the province na kasi, outdoor talaga. i just have my own cartridges that I send for reloading sa tito ko.

[tebs]

i haven't really tried firing a real gun, puro BB lang. hehehe

one of these days, i'll try to visit. may gusto ba magsama sa akin, para di naman ako OP. ;)

[afrasay]

look for a guy with the handle of "paltik" sa Pinoydvd.com. he has a gun store near cash and carry, great guy to deal with (although dvd lang ang transactions ko sa kanya).;)

[yebo]

tebs,

gun ban pa kasi ngayon. kung may magsasama sa iyo sa firing range eh sigurado magha-hire kayo ng gun, not worth it. patapusin mo muna ang gun ban pare.

[pissword]

may tanung lang po ako..baka kasi bibigyan ako after ng gunban. kasi i have to bring it pa from the province

JERICHO o CZ? hehe alam JERICHO namn ata talaga but maybe makakapagbigay kayo ng comparison. d ko lam ang model numbers nila, i saw them na actually masyadong maganda ang jericho. 9mm parehas

sa province namin 5 lang ang reload ng 9mm... pag sariling shell

if ever d naman kelangan ng gun club ang 9mm dba?

nakafire na ako ng real gun but walang target. yun sa ground lang... hehe kasi naman nung dec 28 dapat kaya lang umulan samin, outdoor un range sa police training center kasi dapat. kaya di natuloy

[yebo]

facts:

1.) the IMI Jericho 941 9mm is a copy of the CZ75 9mm. other copies of the CZ are Tanfoglio TZ75, EAA Witness, Sphinx and even the Beretta 92. there are a lot other gun makes that copied the CZ action, but not worth mentioning as they did not sell much. the CZ75 is the most copied gun in the world. so does that tell you anything? it won't be copied if it ain't the best!

2.) the Jericho hammer is more difficult to decock than the CZ hammer. unless you have a decocker model which makes the case for decocking moot. maliit ang hammer ng Jericho. hammer ng CZ is the same as 1911 hammers, a tried and tested design that results in better grip and control.

3.) CZs also have a beaver-tail, better gun control than the Jericho.

4.) the Jericho slide may look great (for some people lang ha, not me) because of its triangular profile, but try cocking the slide with sweaty hands (which will probably be the situation when you're in a combat situation, or competition) and you'll wish you had a square slide. speaking of slides, try holding a beretta slide after firing 45 rounds (3 magazines). ooooops, exposed barrel pala ang slide ng beretta! so what do you end up with? a burnt hand!

5.) Jericho is also heavier than the CZ (same gun size ha.)

6.) also, the CZ is the only slide-in-frame gun. this design makes it more accurate than the copies, less rattle too.

sumikat lang ang Jericho dahitl sa Golan-Globus films, yun ang bida si chuck norris! fake karate star hehehe!

but then again, I have a CZ so I may be bias. but then again, I read all I could read, did my research, asked so many questions, and got the same answers! then i bought my CZ! 5000+ rounds and counting, and still as accurate as the day i bought it.

[pissword]

hehehe... salamat sir yebo. coz sabi ng bro ko number 1 daw ata now ang jericho. i forgot the model nums though.. walang decocker ang CZ na yun, ang jericho meron. yeap nagagandahan ako sa jericho.

marami pa ako nakita na handguns nya actually d ko lang alam ang mga model. pero sabi nya kasi its either the jericho or CZ ang ibibigay nya sakin. may full auto din un CZ. decocker lang talaga ang wala... maliit pa pwede kahit saan isingit, i mean compared to the jericho.


may marerecommend ba kayo na hihingiin ko? hehe btw meron sya yung USP na yung barrel lang and yung slide lang halos ang metal. square na square ang dating. ginagamit daw ata ng US swat. wla lang share ko lang

pero mahal naman ng hobby na to hehe

[yebo]

if he's got a full auto CZ75 bakit hindi pa yun ang hingiin mo pre? full auto sabi mo ha, like in machine pistol gaya ng uzi and mac? ang alam ko sa CZ na full auto e select fire ito, pwede semi-auto at pwede din full auto 900 rounds per minute. price of the full auto CZ at ultra systems is P150K, and it's for sale only to military and police personnel.

[mikey177]

Originally posted by tebs
i haven't really tried firing a real gun, puro BB lang. hehehe

one of these days, i'll try to visit. may gusto ba magsama sa akin, para di naman ako OP. ;)

hi tebs. sorry, was in the province the past four days and only got to log on again today. tama si yebo, wala masyadong activity sa shooting community ngayon dahil sa election gun ban.

if you can wait until June when the gun ban ends, mas ok na yung shooting climate by that time. pero kung talagang gusto mo na mag-try na bumaril ngayon, wala akong nakikitang alternative except to rent a gun at the range... unless you know anyone who has a private range in the province or something and who is willing to let you try out his pistols.

the gun rental fee at PB is now P300. I don't know if that is just for the first 100 rounds. I'll try to clarify with them tomorrow.

[pissword]

sir yebo select po yata, not very good sa mga tawag sa features ng gun, basta meron syang semi, and auto. yung auto, auto talaga pero mabagal daw. so hindi ata yun ang sinasabi mo. sa police po sya kumukuha ng baril hehe may license naman.

tsaka sa itsura nung CZ medyo luma na ndi na ata yun yung sinasabi mo 150K, nag search ako sa net kung CZ75 nga, mukhang yun yon, pero marami palang CZ75 hehe

mukhang CZ yung gusto nya ibigay sakin tnx sir yebo

[yebo]

kung yung select fire CZ75 yan, kunin mo then benta mo sa akin :D. i'll pay enough for you to buy a new CZ or Jericho hehehehe! lugi ka nga lang :D oh what I would pay to get a select fire CZ75 in my car! drive by ko mga mmda sa edsa! bra-ta-ta-ta-tat-tat!

konting gun blue lang yan pre bago na naman yan, gwapo na ulit. or pa-chrome mo kung mahilig ka sa makintab.

[pissword]

hehe so maganda pala yun sir yebo... basta sure ako may semi and auto sya kasi tinry ko eh then yun yung tinanong ko ganu kabilis. yun pa man din sana itry ko sa range nung dec 28.

sa police training camp sya nagshoshooting kilala kasi ang range master hehe kaya pwede...

mahal naman nung jericho nya eh 42K ata yun.. for a 2nd hand ah