Some basic facts on the Issue of Palestine and the Israel-Arab Conflict

[lc1]

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(Some basic facts on the Issue of Palestine and the Israel-Arab Conflict as embodied in key UN Documents)


The recent Gaza conflict reminds us once again of the saga that is Israel vs. the Arabs. If the root of the problem seems to have been buried like a brick underneath the Gaza rubble, let’s tackle a few UN Resolutions to help us remember how it all began … sort of.

You see, all the mayhem may have started with the plan to create a Jewish state leading to the abrupt and unnatural division of Palestine – one side Jewish, the other Arab. One group permitted a homeland while another is displaced. One group allowed to create a state in a portion of land the other is forced to leave.

Or perhaps it started long before that, when anti-semitism in Europe forced the Jewish diaspora to dream of a homeland where they can be safe and secure in their ways and beliefs. The same anti-semitism may be cited as affording the anti-semites the vigor to create a Jewish homeland so the Jews may leave Europe asap.

Both these perspectives are real and well-founded but would entail a very long discussion … on history and religion (not to mention geopolitics) which we are not prepared to undertake.

Focusing on the law, a good backgrounder on the conflict would be the UN resolutions. There are a good number of them (the conflict has been going on forever it seems) but we shall touch on those that reveal significant reality involving the occupied territories (rarely discussed in mainstream media by the way).

Occupied Territories

First, a quick history: towards the end of World War I, the Turkish Ottoman rule over Palestine (including Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip) ended and Palestine was placed under British rule (called the British Mandate). During the British Mandate (1922-1947), a large number of Jews slowly migrated to Palestine (mostly fleeing from persecution in Europe). Resentment towards the immigrants led to clashes between them and the existing Arab population.

The British could not solve the Arab-Israeli conflict and turned the Palestine issue to the UN. To end the British Mandate, the UN in 1947 came up with a Partition Plan for Palestine to divide it into a Jewish State, an Arab State and creating a “Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem”. The plan gave 53% of Palestine to the Jews who numbered less than half of the Arab population who in turn were to get only 46% of Palestine. That the Arabs were livid is the understatement of a lifetime. And so a civil war between Jews and Arabs ensued (from 1947-1948).

On the day the British Mandate expired in 1948, the Jews established the State of Israel prompting her Arab neighbors to attack the new state. This war (from 1948-1949) resulted in Israel enlarging her territory by capturing 77% of Palestine. And so the already thickened plot coagulated some more.

Next came the Six Day War (in June 1967) which was fought by Israel (and, some say, with US and British military support) on one side and Egypt, Jordan and Syria on the other. The end of the war resulted in Israel taking some more land: East Jerusalem and the West Bank (from Jordan), the Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula (from Egypt), and the Golan Heights (from Syria).

Israel may have captured only 77% of Palestine after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War but the 1967 Six Day War ended with Israel seizing 100% of Palestine. You’d think we were still back in the Old Testament. Warring tribes. Land Conquests. Then again, this is Israel. Still waiting for the Messiah. But, that’s another story.

Anyway, the Sinai Peninsula was completely turned over by Israel to Egypt in 1992. The rest are still under Israeli control. We’ll let the UN resolutions hereon declare the status of things under international law. Don’t be discouraged to read them. They are in simple, concise terms and are quite enlightening.

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[Jun aka Pekto]

Next came the Six Day War (in June 1967) which was fought by Israel (and, some say, with US and British military support) on one side and Egypt, Jordan and Syria on the other. The end of the war resulted in Israel taking some more land: East Jerusalem and the West Bank (from Jordan), the Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula (from Egypt), and the Golan Heights (from Syria).

British support perhaps considering the majority of Israeli tanks were British Centurion tanks while fighter/bombers consisted of French Mirages III's and Super Mysteres.

I think US support became more prominent after the Six-day War when France cut off military aircraft procurement. That's when US F-4 Phantoms, A-4 Skyhawks, M-48 and M-60 tanks became available to the Israelis. Of course, the Israelis were able to steal the design for the Mirage V from Dassault of France. They were then able to produce the airframes (Nesher/Kfir) and fitted with US-made jet engines.

[Monseratto]

I think US support became more prominent after the Six-day War when France cut off military aircraft procurement. That's when US F-4 Phantoms, A-4 Skyhawks, M-48 and M-60 tanks became available to the Israelis. Of course, the Israelis were able to steal the design for the Mirage V from Dassault of France. They were then able to produce the airframes (Nesher/Kfir) and fitted with US-made jet engines.

The weapons above were used prominently during the Yom Kippur War of 1973. The Israelis almost lost the war without that help. Some Phantoms were drawn directly from US inventory still wearing US squadron markings and flown straight into the battlefield.

[Horsepower]

it's a stupid war based on a mythical book (which not surprisingly is too biased in favor of the jews who are the aggressors occupying a land they do not own in the first place).

[oliver1013]

Law of nature nalang yan...the Palestinians and arabs had their chance when they first attacked kaso they lost...whoever is stronger deserves what he has..and the jews proved to be stronger..6 day war almost natalo na mga hudyo jan kaso yung intelligence nila made a difference..

[Negus]

panalo yung post ni Gen. Miting...... lemuria at atlantis, tawagin natin si shaider.

[Horsepower]

Gen. Mtg, it was obviously written by a jew or a blind jew fanatic.

Still, they're ravaging a land that is not theirs. All because of a story book they themselves wrote centuries ago.

I do believe in God/Supreme Being but I don't subscribe to stupid religions. As people move forward Science, it's pretty obvious.

[Monseratto]

Still, they're ravaging a land that is not theirs. All because of a story book they themselves wrote centuries ago.

I do believe in God/Supreme Being but I don't subscribe to stupid religions. As people move forward Science, it's pretty obvious.

I think the orthodox still think themselves as God's chosen people, hence superiority over other races.

[empy]

the israel-arab conflict at a glance


1. Atlantis vs. Lemuria

2. survivor of Atlantis (ancient jews) vs survivor of Lemuria (ancient egyptians)

3. the chosen people of God vs. all other antagonists in the bible

4. the ancient Greeks vs. the Persian Empire

5. the Roman Empire vs. the Persian Empire

6. The Crusades vs. the Dark ages

7. british duke of wellington vs. french napoleon

8. world war II jews vs. nazi germany/arabs and the so-called axis powers

-> the corrupt/the liberals vs. the incorruptible/the fundamentalists


basta ancient eternal grudge between two warring ancient superman races, nag-iba-iba lang ng tawag sa history and people but the grudge lives on

congratulations for fu**ing up a potentially decent discussion thread with this nonsense

[sequoia]

Since this is a topic about islam too. i Hope the thread starter would let me post this. Anybody seen this movie? A controversial film - which links the Islamic holy book to terrorism http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=216_1207467783
I'm having second thought of starting a thread re this very interesting movie.

[StraightSix]

Since this is a topic about islam too. i Hope the thread starter would let me post this. Anybody seen this movie? A controversial film - which links the Islamic holy book to terrorism http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=216_1207467783
I'm having second thought of starting a thread re this very interesting movie.

I've never heard anything about the film before ... until the Home Office prevented Geert Wilders from entering Britain today.

That film's purpose is to incite hatred against ALL muslims. The UK government just gave Wilders the publicity he badly needs.

[Horsepower]

Actually, all the author did was narrate verses from the quran with matching activities from the muslims. Logically, there's nothing wrong with it.

Theo Van Gogh did the same and he was murdered.

UK Govt obviously declined Geert because they are afraid of the muslims. Cowards. At least Germany got balls to stand up and uphold freedom of speech.

[rion]

for pete's sake. Jews and Muslims are step brothers through Abraham.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael

it's a stupid war based on a mythical book (which not surprisingly is too biased in favor of the jews who are the aggressors occupying a land they do not own in the first place).

sa akin, I believe the Jews owned that land once... it has been recorded in history naman sa Crusader era... and King David's wall remains today...

pero we have to admit nag-iisa lang sya na napapalibutan ng kaaway and yet buhay na buhay.

haha... it's not new. ilang beses na yan nangyari sa Bible. their race is a super survivor race...

I'm thankful that the Jews are guarding it for us Christians.

well I'm not, the crusaders also made dirty bloody hands guarding the "Kingdom of Heaven"

Originally Posted by Monseratto
I think the orthodox still think themselves as God's chosen people, hence superiority over other races.

as a believer, I really don't like that orthodox" yet, I believe it... those luck bastards... and unlucky din... hehe...

this are all as as a personal believer's point of view lang po ha... no racism here... because they still have my respect and a bit of my envy. I hope walang Jew dito.

[valvura]

they always blew it. they killed their own creator. they always fall short, stuborn. never believed Jesus is the messiah. so they are still waiting for their messiah. they cannot accept that the messiah was poor, born on a manger and HUMBLE... gusto nila bonga yung messiah with all earthly glory...

this seems to be the same view of people who initiated the holocaust, to avenge the death of Christ...

but note that there were also messianic Jews who accepted Christ to to be the Messiah (including the Apostles and early christian followers) who founded the present Catholic Christian faith (handed down from Peter and Paul)...

more reading:
http://www.israelcatholic.com/conten...59/77/lang,en/ :war:

[rion]

*valvura: so you were able to read it before I removed it... that was a way over the line... I should have keep it to myself... I appologize...

please guys don't make my removed comments any more bigger. that was my bad... thank you.

[Horsepower]

Rion, what you said was, based on the bible, true. Why be sorry for the truth?

Religions are just that, religions. Freedom of speech should never be suppressed just because of them.

[Monseratto]

I think this thread will end up in religious bashing...

[valvura]

[SIZE=2]However, 'truth' is relative. This is where conflicts start.[/SIZE]

I agree with Mon. I suggest that mods to close this thread.

[Horsepower]

Religion is terribly divisive. I'm sure the Supreme Being is so mad for all the CRIMES done by the supposed followers (well I'd be).

John Lennon is so right when he sang:

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

[valvura]

conspiracy mode:

"Imagine there's no countries" (One World, One Country, One Gov't?):stone:

no offense pls...