Not everything in the Bible is true...

[Flagg]

One thing I find anomalous in the bible is the 3 lost years of Jesus.
What happened to Jesus during those years?
How come not one apostle wrote about it? Or maybe somebody wrote about it and i simply missed reading?
Did Jesus travel during those years? If yes, wouldn't he have told his apostles where he'd gone and whatever happened in those travels?
Maybe he has gone somewhere to study? Did he need to study?

Nag-whoopee po sila ni Mary Magdalene. Mga mods, di po OT yun ha? Truth in the Bible yung pinaguusapan. There is a study na celibacy was a medieval invention of the Catholic Church. Before the Middle Ages, masaya mga priest, ngayon wawa naman po sila. As a modern day example po, mga Rabbi get married.

Sir City, hati hati po dapat tayo ni coder sa 20% mo.

Sir Niky, nakita nyo po si Jesus? Kasama si Elvis? Wakekek, Peace po!

[kimpOy]

i have relatives/friends who are iglesia, protestants, atheists, jehovah's witnesses, buddists, whathaveyou...the only catalyst we have is RESPECT...even though we have arguments/debates at the end of the day we still respect each other's beliefs even we think otherwise...

as for the topic is not how accurate the bible is but how you absorb its teachings and values





alien?

ALIEN!!!

[pajerokid]

One thing I find anomalous in the bible is the 3 lost years of Jesus.
What happened to Jesus during those years?
How come not one apostle wrote about it? Or maybe somebody wrote about it and i simply missed reading?
Did Jesus travel during those years? If yes, wouldn't he have told his apostles where he'd gone and whatever happened in those travels?
Maybe he has gone somewhere to study? Did he need to study?

There are gospels on the lost years but apparently they were not included in what we know as the bible today. Da vinci code stuff.

[GlennSter]

kimpoy..i agree.but some people doesnt seem to understand the word respect.

[kimpOy]

agree na pala...inuman na lang tayo...

cheers!

[theveed]

kimpoy..i agree.but some people doesnt seem to understand the word respect.

Di ko gets in relation to this thread...

[GlennSter]

Di ko gets in relation to this thread...

its in response to kimpoy's post about respect.

i talk about different kinds of topics with many people. disrespectful people are everywhere...internet...classrooms..counters...toi lets.

in relation with this thread, tsikoteers raised very good points..may it be pro or anti teachings of the bible.

at the end of the day (or thread)...respect is still due to everyone.

[Luap]

we all know how to love, and there's a saying that goes something like "God is Love" so my dear brothers and sisters, let's love one another, through the rain, through the storm, for my love will see you through....(ayan napakanta na tuloy ako) tsk tsks tsk
-- sorry po OT na naman...

[theveed]

Glenn: Okidoks hehe, just wondering

[niky]

Sir Niky, nakita nyo po si Jesus? Kasama si Elvis? Wakekek, Peace po!

Yaaa... bro... he was in the smoke, man... it was like waaaaay out....

If Jesus were alive now, he probably wouldn't be Catholic. He'd be a hippie. Peace, love, forgiveness. Go against the flow, listen to the children, dudes, don't force them to listen to you.

Various Church leaders would proclaim him the anti-Christ, the false prophet. They'd bait him with theological questions on "Evolution":

"Hey, peace bro, Give unto Darwin what is Darwin's, Give unto God what is God's... let the scientists have the monkeys, souls are all that count!"

On "Celibacy":

"Hey, I told you guys before to love one another! How can you preach my love if you don't practice it? Loosen up, guys!"

On "Women in the Church":

"Hey, if Mary Magdalene could preach my word, anybody can. When did I say women couldn't?"

They'd crucify him. Definitely.

[kinyo]

There are gospels on the lost years but apparently they were not included in what we know as the bible today. Da vinci code stuff.

Why were they not included in the bible today? Did you imply the gospels were included in the bible in past editions?
Sorry haven't read da vinci code stuff although i heard it has something to do with stories (fiction, accdg to author?) the church would not want its followers to know.

[niky]

One truth that came out of the brouhaha is the truth about Mary Magdalene. Her apparent importance in the Christian faith was diminished when a middle ages Pope declared her to be the same person as an adulteress described in a previous chapter of the gospel where she first appears. Modern scholars agree that she isn't. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that she was ever an adulteress.

In terms of her importance, she was most likely one of Jesus' most important apostles. She was the first one to see him, purportedly, after his resurrection, and she was the only disciple at the cross.

Of course, since the Church has historically been run by men, they trumped up the role of Peter as opposed to Mary, and have downplayed her role as much as possible, while emphasizing that of Mother Mary instead. Thus propagating the idea of women in the Church hierarchy as inactive background figures who calmly accept authority, and giving a more active role to the male figures in Jesus' life.

Of course, the emphasis of Mother Mary has backfired in some respects, as Marian Worship has spread like wildfire in recent decades. If they'd concentrated on Mary Magdalene more than Mother Mary, they would've at least merely given her a co-equal position with the other apostles.

[kimpOy]

tamang tama sa Da Vinci Code movie.....

[CVT]

flagg "There is a study na celibacy was a medieval invention of the Catholic Church. Before the Middle Ages, masaya mga priest, ngayon wawa naman po sila."

My apologies to the group if this is off-colored:

May joke nga riyan na typographical error raw ang celibate, because when a priest was researching the original manuscripts it was supposed to be 'celebrate' ....

(of course the originals were not in english)....

PEACE!

[kimpOy]

there's an R!!! there's an R!!!

[niky]

:lol: Tara, Let's? Let's celebrate!

[paulp]

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For those who want more... more proof, more explanation, more reason for believing, more miracles, more rational explanation, more freedom from an omnipotent God's influence... well, good luck! The message of Christ can fall on fertile or barren soil. You can believe or dismiss it.

It's your choice. For me, the bible is true. Not one word of it is a lie. If that is irrational, then I choose to be irrational on the side of the promised eternal life in God's presence.

AMEN TO ALL OF THAT!

[CoDer]

Sir City, hati hati po dapat tayo ni coder sa 20% mo.

Yaba bro!

[Monseratto]

kimpoy..i agree.but some people doesnt seem to understand the word respect.

Baka yung tawag dun tolerance, we agree to disagree to a point na walang patayan...hehe.

[CoDer]

If Jesus were alive now, he probably wouldn't be Catholic. He'd be a hippie. Peace, love, forgiveness. Go against the flow, listen to the children, dudes, don't force them to listen to you.

Jesus Christ will never be a catholic or a member of any religious sect. Jesus Christ clearly stated in the Bible that he is God Himself.

You will only be forgiven of your sin because of Him, and you will only earn your right to salvation through him.

What Jesus requires from a believer? Faith, Trust, Obedience, and Repentance.