NEWS: Tourist Bus held hostage at Luneta (Aug 23 2010)

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hugas kamay ang ABS-CBN sa coverage. their no different from politicians to make their names clean.

sabi nila, sumusunod daw sila sa rules and life trumps coverage. sa pagcover nila, kahit walang ilaw, clear pa rin that the hostage taker is taking info from the coverage.

pati yung coverage sa kapatid na dinadampot hindi daw sadya. bigla na lang daw nagwala. they should have just cut the live feed...

bottom line, rating rating rating lang gusto nila.

[jave]

Oh, the media are now washing their hands/white-washing their deeds. They're putting the blame on the lack of guidelines for situations like such, their "instinct", and all those crap.

Sure, go ahead. Unbiased, truthful reporting my *ss. They're still partly to blame for everything, those obnoxious, self-righteous morons.

[isa1023]

Reminds me of the benefits of government-regulated media, similar to what Singapore, HK, Taiwan etc have.

Their media can't expose news of negative national (more so international) impact. Investors thought they're such peaceful, secure and stable economies and that putting much wealth for business there is a win-win.

[stairwaynewb]

The question is why would they arrest the brother of Mendoza and his relatives if they know that it will provoke the hostage taker. AFAIK hindi stable ang pagiisip ng isang hostage taker habang nasa situation. Cguro nung nakita nya na pinaghuhuli na mga kamaganak nya, naisip nya na wala na rin na talo talo na. Also nagpadala din ang ombudsman ng letter which in fact na bluff.

Another scenario is ang daming angulo na pwede na nila tirahin si Mendoza puro pa clear shot. But those snipers are ineffective. Also hindi rin nila naisip na ibigay na lang demands nya hindi rin sana mangyayari ung ganitong gulo. In the end the filipinos are the loser and those Hongkong tourist. Also for Mendoza it was a success.

Pag sa ibang bansa nangyari ito, naku mag suicide pa mga ground commanders sa kahihiyan na ginawa nila pero sa atin mukhang proud pa ata sila.

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Another scenario is ang daming angulo na pwede na nila tirahin si Mendoza puro pa clear shot. But those snipers are ineffective. Also hindi rin nila naisip na ibigay na lang demands nya hindi rin sana mangyayari ung ganitong gulo. In the end the filipinos are the loser and those Hongkong tourist. Also for Mendoza it was a success.

there were a lot of clear shot that they could have taken but the question also is "was the green light given by the commander?"

[Negus]

Hong Kong warns against Philippines travel after deaths

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11067310

Analysis

Anger, disbelief and grief is the mood in Hong Kong following the hostage drama in the Philippines.

Members of some of Hong Kong's political parties demonstrated outside the Philippine consulate in the southern Chinese city, expressing their fury at how Manila had handled the violent situation.

Several of Hong Kong's daily newspapers changed their mastheads from red to black, the city's flags flew at half-mast and a daily laser spectacular which takes place across high buildings around Hong Kong's iconic harbour was cancelled to show a city in mourning.

The Hong Kong Stock Exchange held a minute of silence, as Philippine consular officials expressed concern for the large Filipino population in Hong Kong.

Unconfirmed reports said that some bosses had already arbitrarily sacked their Filipino domestic helpers in anger at the hostage situation

Matindi sigurado ang balik na discrimination sa mga pinoy OFWs na nasa HK dahil dito. kahit walang kinalaman sisante. .

[jimnyeatworld]

Another scenario is ang daming angulo na pwede na nila tirahin si Mendoza puro pa clear shot. But those snipers are ineffective. Also hindi rin nila naisip na ibigay na lang demands nya hindi rin sana mangyayari ung ganitong gulo. In the end the filipinos are the loser and those Hongkong tourist. Also for Mendoza it was a success.

a.

the police had to assume that siguro that it's not that easy. what if may bomb / grenade sya, na if he gets sprawled on the floor mag-trigger. and also he carries a M-16, if they miss the head and say hit a part of the body, what will stop mr. hostage-taker from spraying the M16 sa hostages. reflex-reaction nya yun even if it's fatal shot to the body.

or what if he's using a decoy. say for example, pag may photo-op labas sya sa door like the one in the picture. then after that, he forces an HK national to wear his fatigue uniform and made him stand up in the aisle while Mendoza is conveniently seated along with the hostages.

dami-dami puwede gawin that's why it's not simple as anyone would think.

we cannot assume based on what we see in the movies.

now if what he gets sniped naman while he's doing this:



i'm sure the media and all of us will be talking about now ishow unfortunate na this decorated policeman ended this way, siguro hero na sya ngaun. we would all be thinking about him and not the plight of the HK nationals.

[marg]

the police had to assume that siguro that it's not that easy. what if may bomb / grenade sya, na if he gets sprawled on the floor mag-trigger. and also he carries a M-16, if they miss the head and say hit a part of the body, what will stop mr. hostage-taker from spraying the M16 sa hostages. reflex-reaction nya yun even if it's fatal shot to the body.

or what if he's using a decoy. say for example, pag may photo-op labas sya sa door like the one in the picture. then after that, he forces an HK national to wear his fatigue uniform and made him stand up in the aisle while Mendoza is conveniently seated along with the hostages.

WHAT IS RISKIER, having to snipe Mendoza at this point, or having to wait and storm the bus like what the stupid cops did.....8 dead. Think.

Kaya nga the HK gov't got so mad, dissapointing daw ang mga Pinoy policemen.

Kasi Pulido at Magaling ang TRAINING nila. Watch this China policewoman in action. May decoy pa.

http://shock.military.com/Shock/vide...58&ESRC=dod.nl

[afrasay]

Both of his hands are empty so we could rule out a remote detonator. He would have shown it for all to see just in case someone got trigger happy. The info could also be obtain from the released hostages. His finger wasn't even near the trigger of the M16. They have already confirmed that he is Captain Mendoza as seen by some of his fellow officers. Now if he was taken out while waving his hand the police would have only deal with the CHR and not the whole Chinese community all 1 Billion plus of them.

[Super Inggo]

After 1 year, lalong umiinit ang isyu na Ito.

And a documentary will be shown on History channel later entitled The Manila Hostage Massacare

[marg]

And a documentary will be shown on History channel later entitled The Manila Hostage Massacare

Saw it twice last week. GUNGGONG talaga mga pulis patola. Pati si Lim kumakain at tumatawa pa sa Emerald resaturant.

Comedy show yung ginawa ng kapatid ni Mendoza at mga anak nya. This led to the tragic end. TSK TSK.



See how the other countries do it. CLEAN and QUICK, with a touch of Girl Power.

40 STUPID Manila policemen and 10 ILL-TRAINED SWAT members couldn't do what this 1 lady cop did.

[buriroy]

Ang labo naman ng reasoning ni PNoy. He said he will not apologise because only one person was involved (Capt. Rolando Mendoza) in the hostage crisis. But he should realize that the perpetrator is a Filipino citizen and it happened in the Philippines so kahit papaano meron pananagutan ang gobyerno natin. Paano pala kung pumunta si PNoy sa bahay namin at kinagat sya ng aso ko. Hindi rin ba ako mag-sorry following his line of reasoning sasabihin ko: Wala naman sa pamilya ko ang nanakit sa 'yo kundi isang aso lang so bakit ako magso-sorry? PNoy is honest and incorruptible but he can be bullheaded at times.

[safeorigin]

Hassle kasi to take up responsibility e.

Hassle masyado ang more work less play.

Hassle rin masyado na di na dumadami ang buhok kakapuyat.

Tutal, di naman niya kelangan problemahin ang bawat isa sa atin.

Hassle kasi maibotong presidente e.

[Monseratto]

Anyone noticed the honorable Mayor Lim, Vice Moreno or Usec Puno were not around in any of the events regarding the Hostage Tragedy? Maybe they were having a lauriat in Emerald Restaurant... Yesterday, DZBB was playing soundbytes where PNoy purportedly apologized for the event. What I understand is he said "symphatize" and "in solidarity" but never "apology" or "SORRY".