Need Advice - Oven-like room

[ghosthunter]

Is the baby room facing the sun during part of the day?

Given the walls are cement/concrete, this could be part of the problem. You might want to shade the exposed outside walls. Also you could apply an inner wall with insulation to prevent the heat from the outside getting in and the cold getting out through conduction via the walls.

Insulating the ceiling/roof will solve part of the problem as well.

Getting an evaporative cooler can help keeping temperatures lower with just using water. The problem of this type of device is it requires a regular change (or continuous venting) of the air inside the room. If not, the air will become heavily saturated with moisture and become uncomfortable. You can even use the evaporative cooler in an open air room, just direct the air towards/near the baby to help cool his immediate area.

It is also possible to use an aircon with evaporative cooler to lower the overall electrical bill as compared to using aircon alone.

[Zeus]

At ang tamang pag install ng aircon ay dapat ang level ay na sa taas (taas ng ulo) para mas epektibo ang lamig

[Camgen6]

kung gusto mo makatipid try Coolmate Evaporative air cooler, parang electric fan lang ito but needs water only, will bring down temp by approx 5 deg. smallest unit is nasa 160W. mga almost 7k ito. big units na 1/2HP naas 30k, as big as an industrial fan.

So magbubuga siya ng mist? it will act like a humidifier? at lalong lalagkit ang katawan mo dahil masyadong humid na sa Pinas. Correct me if I'm wrong, too much Humid is unhealthy at diyan nabubuhay ang germs at bacteria much like say in the bathroom dahil laging basa.

Kaya Aircon ka na lang and put it in auto mode na ang temperature is as high as you can tolerate without being uncomfortable.

[LHV]

basics pre ng pagpapalamig ng room is dapat mababang temp tapos may flow ng air, yung ibang aircon unit kasi kaya naman ng compressor yung heat load ng room kaso mahina yung blower kaya kailangan sabayan mo ng electric fan para may heat exchange yung skin mo at yung malamig na hangin tapos para ma maximize mo yung cooling dapat well insulated ang room mo tapos is seal mo lahat ng butas na pwedeng labasan ng lamig ( pero ang totoo pasukan ng init yun he he)

para makatipid ka din dapat malapit sa heat load ( tao) yung aircon, pansinin mo sa mall dati nasa ceiling yung vent ng aircon duct pero yung bagong design na mall is just above the head na yung duct kasi para mas matipid kaya kung tutulugan yung room ang height ng a/c mo is just above ng kama mo mas madali kang malalamigan mas mababa yung settings ng a/c mo, mas tipid

[sea.piper]

ito hinde ako naniniwala ewan ko kung abkit gumana saiyo...hehehee yun wattage pa rin ng appliance ang nag cause ng pagtaas ng electicity consumtption, ano nagagawa nun power saver nahihigop niya yun ibang wattage? placebo effect yan

Nagdemo sila sa akin kung bakit pwedeng bumaba..nag clamp sila nang tester sa wire at parang 15 amperes yung nabasa nang test pero noong isinaksak yung gadget naging 9 amperes na lang..so nag try ako...at yun nga bumaba naman ang bill namin...at ngayon na maintain na ulit yung bill namin at nakakatipid ako nang atleast 1000 a month..malaking bagay na yun..kung umabot man sya nang 6 months ok lang panalo parin ako

ok lang naman kung hindi ka manilawa at hindi kita pinipilit hehehehe. atleast ako nakatipid

[boybi]

kung gusto mo makatipid try Coolmate Evaporative air cooler, parang electric fan lang ito but needs water only, will bring down temp by approx 5 deg. smallest unit is nasa 160W. mga almost 7k ito. big units na 1/2HP naas 30k, as big as an industrial fan.

Di ba tumataas ang humidity ng room sa fan na yan? Kalawang ang aabutin ng mga electronic equipments dyan.

[ghosthunter]

Di ba tumataas ang humidity ng room sa fan na yan? Kalawang ang aabutin ng mga electronic equipments dyan.

If you pair an evaporative cooler with an aircon, the aircon would control the humidity level by condensing the excess moisture in the room air.

An exhaust fan would help keep humidity levels low if you are just using the evaporative cooler alone in a closed room.

I have a big evaporative cooler in my computer rental shop to help keep my electrical bill down. It is effective to a point (depends on the number of customers), then I have to use my aircon in tandem with the cooler.

[ghosthunter]

Nagdemo sila sa akin kung bakit pwedeng bumaba..nag clamp sila nang tester sa wire at parang 15 amperes yung nabasa nang test pero noong isinaksak yung gadget naging 9 amperes na lang..so nag try ako...at yun nga bumaba naman ang bill namin...at ngayon na maintain na ulit yung bill namin at nakakatipid ako nang atleast 1000 a month..malaking bagay na yun..kung umabot man sya nang 6 months ok lang panalo parin ako

ok lang naman kung hindi ka manilawa at hindi kita pinipilit hehehehe. atleast ako nakatipid

Is that device the type you plug your aircon into? Or the type you plug into any outlet in the house and it would lower your electrical bill?

[BlueBimmer]

So magbubuga siya ng mist? it will act like a humidifier? at lalong lalagkit ang katawan mo dahil masyadong humid na sa Pinas. Correct me if I'm wrong, too much Humid is unhealthy at diyan nabubuhay ang germs at bacteria much like say in the bathroom dahil laging basa.

Kaya Aircon ka na lang and put it in auto mode na ang temperature is as high as you can tolerate without being uncomfortable.

anong mist sinasabi mo? walang mist ito, COOL AIR ang mararamdaman mo, pure air lang.

whoever said this device blows mist? the water drips down the evaporator like fins of the material, hence cooling down the sheet paper like material several degrees then air passing thru is in turn cooled down. no water in any amount is blown out, wth kind of device will that be? LOL

[BlueBimmer]

Di ba tumataas ang humidity ng room sa fan na yan? Kalawang ang aabutin ng mga electronic equipments dyan.

i dunno, basta lumalamig ang area at walang tubig or mist or whatever whatsoever nararamdaman. dami na rin bumili nito at walang reklamo so that alone speaks for itself.

[boybi]

i dunno, basta lumalamig ang area at walang tubig or mist or whatever whatsoever nararamdaman. dami na rin bumili nito at walang reklamo so that alone speaks for itself.

Sabi kasi ng isang friend ko when he inquired about it. He was advised to open all windows, basta dapat maganda ang ventilation sa room, because of the higher humidity air that will circulate.

Well, tama rin naman yun e. Hot air absorbs more moisture which will turn the air cooler. And when cold humid air comes in contact with objects, it leaves a minute amount of moisture.

So kung well ventilated ang area mo, there will be some hot air circulating, which will absorb the moisture left by the cold air.

[BlueBimmer]

Sabi kasi ng isang friend ko when he inquired about it. He was advised to open all windows, basta dapat maganda ang ventilation sa room, because of the higher humidity air that will circulate.

Well, tama rin naman yun e. Hot air absorbs more moisture which will turn the air cooler. And when cold humid air comes in contact with objects, it leaves a minute amount of moisture.

So kung well ventilated ang area mo, there will be some hot air circulating, which will absorb the moisture left by the cold air.

hmm i think its just logical to open windows or doors while using this unit because this is not meant to be the replacement of an a/c unit wherein you close all doors and windows to properly cool the room.

this is just like an electric fan but with a temp cooling feature using water, more so when using the smaller units, kaya ang mga gumagamit nito naka-direct sa katawan ang air just like any fan.

[GerardTagayty]

ot na : we yun evaporative cooler thing. it works naman it doesnt naman use mist to cool the room down. theres a fiberglass parang honeycomb panel. a pump brings water to the top and the water drips onto the composite honeycomb panel. as air passes nadadaanan nito yun panel. nun nideliver samin i asked the sales rep. its ok naman daw to put it in a room pero iba pa rin ang effectiveness nito outdoors.

[froshie1]

Once you've purchased your A/C you may want to read this:
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/

[oldblue]

try to open the aircon from the time you stay in the bedroom until you leave in the morning.

do it daily

wait for the bill next month.

kung kaya sa budget, tuloy ang ligaya

kung hindi gamitin mo na lang timer ng aircon. set 1-2 hours depende kung kelan kayo mabilis makakatulog. pag tulog na kayo di nyo na mamalayan mainit pa hehehe

[sea.piper]

Is that device the type you plug your aircon into? Or the type you plug into any outlet in the house and it would lower your electrical bill?

just plug any outlet in your house and leave it there.

[Camgen6]

anong mist sinasabi mo? walang mist ito, COOL AIR ang mararamdaman mo, pure air lang.

whoever said this device blows mist? the water drips down the evaporator like fins of the material, hence cooling down the sheet paper like material several degrees then air passing thru is in turn cooled down. no water in any amount is blown out, wth kind of device will that be? LOL

Sir Blue, if you read my post properly it has a question mark "?" so I was asking not saying. di ko kasi alam ang device na sinasabi, akala ko kasi it acts like a Humidifier because there's water involved.
May Humidifier kasi kami dito sa bahay, usually we use it during cold seasons when air is very dry, tapos gagamit pa ng heater kaya pwedeng ma clog ang ilong mo from dryness. I usually pour in a gallon of water tapos naka-on lang over night tapos next morning halos ubos na ang tubig, pero kahit tapat mo ang kamay sa blower niya walang moist na makukuha. Sorry if I miscommunicated.

[Asus700]

bakit hindi ka na lang lumipat? delikado pa yan nasa paanan kayo ng bundok, baka mag landslide pa

actually, dahil nasa paanan kayo ng bundok and laguna pa, i assume singaw na din ng hotspring yan, kaya ang init hindi lang nanggagaling sa taas (the sun) pati sa ilalim (hotspring).

maiinit ang lupa tapos mainit ang araw, what a combo.

[BlueBimmer]

Sir Blue, if you read my post properly it has a question mark "?" so I was asking not saying. di ko kasi alam ang device na sinasabi, akala ko kasi it acts like a Humidifier because there's water involved.
May Humidifier kasi kami dito sa bahay, usually we use it during cold seasons when air is very dry, tapos gagamit pa ng heater kaya pwedeng ma clog ang ilong mo from dryness. I usually pour in a gallon of water tapos naka-on lang over night tapos next morning halos ubos na ang tubig, pero kahit tapat mo ang kamay sa blower niya walang moist na makukuha. Sorry if I miscommunicated.

ah ok np

[LHV]

dagdag ko pa ito...Bumili ako nang POWER SAVER sa Handyman malaking ibinaba yung bill namin sa kuryente may 1 thou din ang nabawas.

parating asa 4500 ang monthly bill namin sa kuryente..Actually 4600+ ang bill namin nang February 2007. Nakabakasyon ako nang March at nakabili ako nang power saver ilang beses akong gumamit nang welding machine sa bahay. pero yung bill namin eh bumaba..3500 na lang...so nabawi ko na yung ipinambayad ko dun sa gadget na yun.

Try din ninyo...kasi sa akin umobra eh

Sir anong brand yan,

meron kami ditong sa planta industrial size na bank capacitor which lower our bills, pero yung small size na isinasalpak sa outlet nag try kami before wa epek eh tutal sagot naman ng company try ko yang brand na yan