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  1. Join Date
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    Have you seen constatine?? Sabi nun girl di sya naniniwala sa devil, but sabi ni keannu, but the devil believes in you. So medyo mahirap diba.

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    Ever hear the story of the astronaut and the brain surgeon?

    The astronaut, who was an atheist, says to a brain surgeon, "I've flown on countless space missions, circled around the Earth many times, but I never saw a single sign of God or the angels in the heavens."

    The surgeon, who happened to be religious, answers, "And I've operated on countless brains, many of them belonging to famous people, but I never saw a single thought."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman
    Ever hear the story of the astronaut and the brain surgeon?

    The astronaut, who was an atheist, says to a brain surgeon, "I've flown on countless space missions, circled around the Earth many times, but I never saw a single sign of God or the angels in the heavens."

    The surgeon, who happened to be religious, answers, "And I've operated on countless brains, many of them belonging to famous people, but I never saw a single thought."

    hehehe hebigat yang pinag-uusapan nyo but this one caught my attention....herherherherher

    me pagkapilosopo pero tama.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman
    Ever hear the story of the astronaut and the brain surgeon?

    The astronaut, who was an atheist, says to a brain surgeon, "I've flown on countless space missions, circled around the Earth many times, but I never saw a single sign of God or the angels in the heavens."

    The surgeon, who happened to be religious, answers, "And I've operated on countless brains, many of them belonging to famous people, but I never saw a single thought."
    thoughts can be measured. in fact me brain fingerprinting na nga na ginagamit in some 1st world nations to measure one's thoughts. now, if somebody can measure god, then i'll have no problem believing.

    this is the same saying that atheists shouldn't believe in oxygen because like god, it can't be seen also. but there is liquid oxygen. if somebody can liquefy god and put him on display, then that would be nice.

    now this is funny:

    The son of God is the same as the son of man; the son of man is the same as the son of God. God, the father, is the same as Christ, the son; Christ, the son, is the same as God, the father. This language may appear confused to unbelievers, but Christians will readily understand it.
    -- Voltaire, quoted from The Christ

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    In the end, what matters most is how you treated your fellowmen. Just look at "The Good Samaritan." He did not know God (therefore He did not believe in Him), but still he believed in good and love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim
    In the end, what matters most is how you treated your fellowmen. Just look at "The Good Samaritan." He did not know God (therefore He did not believe in Him), but still he believed in good and love!
    well said!

    here's my credo: "you dont have to believe in god to do good things in the same way that you dont have to believe in the devil to do evil things."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSter
    what could happen to you that can make you believe in God again?!

    ano kaya ang pwedeng mangyari na kung mangyari sayo...mapapapaniwala ka na may DIYOS nga!?!?

    sa mga believers..isipin niyo..non believers kayo....
    pag nakita ko sya in person, maniniwala ulit ako. or kung nung nagkaron ng tsunami sa thailand e biglang me lumabas na malaking kamay at sinagip lahat yung mga kokonti kasalanan (specially the kids) tapos pinabayaan mamatay yung mga masasama. or kung me malaking paa sana na lumabas sa langit at inapakan ang congress natin. then for sure naniwala ulit ako.

    alam ko sasabihin ng iba, masyadong malabo mangyari hinihingi ko na proof, pero God sya, right? so dapat walang malabo sa kanya.

    until such proof besomes evident, all present gods (and goddesses) are no different from zeus and hera and athena. greek myhthology tawag natin sa kanil angayon, but remember there was a time na sinamba sila ng ancient greeks.


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    tama, kaya kitang kita lagi mga sungay mo hehehee...

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    "Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate."
    - F. M. Knowles

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    guys... please don't turn this into a believer vs. unbeliever flame war

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    believing in a supreme being is enough for me. GOD, ALLAH etc are all the same supreme being i believe, bcos of diff. culture and way of life lng kaya naging iba...i think....cos kng hindi kawawa naman mga millions of muslims, buddhists etc kng mali sila e d pnta cla lahat ng hell? or purgatory? sakit na ulo ko...hehe

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    We killed all our Klingon gods centuries ago. They were more trouble than
    they were worth.
    - Lt. Cmdr. Worf, Star Trek

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    trekkie pala c woulfe hehehe

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    Geek hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSter
    what could happen to you that can make you believe in God again?!

    ano kaya ang pwedeng mangyari na kung mangyari sayo...mapapapaniwala ka na may DIYOS nga!?!?

    sa mga believers..isipin niyo..non believers kayo....
    1. If I see God himself.
    2. A day passes and I don't see and meet any hypocrites. These days people have a skewed sense of what is right and wrong. Simply put: as long as it benefits him/her, then it is right.
    3. Evil people get their due, instead of nothing happening to them.
    4. Good people getting their due, instead of them getting the short end of the stick.
    5. People will start helping each other from the goodness of their hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseler
    1. If I see God himself.
    2. A day passes and I don't see and meet any hypocrites. These days people have a skewed sense of what is right and wrong. Simply put: as long as it benefits him/her, then it is right.
    3. Evil people get their due, instead of nothing happening to them.
    4. Good people getting their due, instead of them getting the short end of the stick.
    5. People will start helping each other from the goodness of their hearts.
    i agree.

    eto nakakatawa din:

    To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was
    not born of a virgin.

    - Cardinal Bellermine, 1615, during the trial of Galileo

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    Originally Posted by GlennSter
    what could happen to you that can make you believe in God again?!

    ano kaya ang pwedeng mangyari na kung mangyari sayo...mapapapaniwala ka na may DIYOS nga!?!?

    sa mga believers..isipin niyo..non believers kayo....
    i lost my belief in God when i was a kid. minantikilyang bata po ksi ako (ie. battered child) hehe. had gone through what they called a NDE. tapos nun bumalik na ang belief ko.

    tama si theveed in saying that if you've lost it before you may lose it again. but if you gained it back, chances are you'll regain it back again. imo, its keeping the faith ang mahirap.

    now, everytime i look at the pictures of my wife and son., i smile and utter "Thank you God."

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    Long ago, there was god named Vulcan, and hew was the god of fire and volcanoes. He came to

    life when ancient men, who were our forefathers, discovered fire and burning rocks spewed by

    an erupting mountain. They could not explain how fire is created, so they came to the

    conclusion that it must be the creation of a higher being. They called that higher being

    Vulcan.

    Centuries passed. Then one day, the smarter ones among these ancient people discovered that

    they could create fire just by rubbing two pieces of sticks together in a sustained manner.

    With this discovery that ordinary men have the ability to create fire, they realized that

    there is no truth to the existence of a god named Vulcan. It dawned to them that their

    ancestors were just too stupid or too lazy to find out for themselves how fire is created.

    Their ancestors did not know the answer to the question "How is fire created?" And they did

    not have the patience nor the intellect to conduct the painstaking research needed to find

    the correct answer. So they came up with the most convenient and readily available answer:

    they invented the god of fire and volcanoes.


    Does anybody still worship Vulcan now? Or Zeus? Or Astarte? We now know of them as mere

    characters in Greek or Roman mythology. But remember, they were the religions of the ancient

    Greeks and the ancient Romans. They built churches and temples where they worshipped and

    pray to Zeus, Apollo, Aphrodite, and, yes, Vulcan, for thousands of years. These ancient

    people also believed that when they die, their souls will jon the gods in Mt. Olympus, where

    they will live in pure joy for eternity (for the Vikings, it's Asgard).

    Interesting, isn't it?

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    Mr. woulfe tumpak hehe...

    i dunno, but i dont believe, or at least i dont wanna think there is GOD...

    i respect naman lahat ng paniniwala ng iba.. its just that parang history lahat ng naisusulat sa bible ay ang kwento lang ng mga nagwagi.. panu naman ang other side of the story? or ang behind the scene?

    anyway, again... the bible is a compilation of stories, stories which we people do not know if totoo ba o hindi. tao lang din ang nagsulat nyan.

    and also yung paniniwala ng heaven and hell etc.. sinu ba may sabi niyan? hehe sinu din nagsasabi na pag ginawa ang certain thing, mawawala ang kasalanan mo etc...

    i dunno, but even if i wanna believe na nandyan SIYA, i just can't. i need reasons hehe hindi divine interventions

    ang hirap din magpanggap na naniniwala ako, tulad ng sabi ng iba why not maniwala ka nalang wala naman mawawala sayo pero dba nga pag nag pretend ka or nagdoubt ka may kasalanan ka na agad?? hehe d ko alam san lulugar kaya sa gitna nalang ako ng lahat ng paniniwala.

    peace po.
    Last edited by pissword; December 15th, 2005 at 12:23 AM.

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    the science of intelligent design basahin nyo na lang

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